Most of it has already been pointed out. RoL spent too long with his plan, hasn't been posting much, and as of late, has not really been contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way. Most of his recent posts have been really shaky attacks on BlazingHand. All of his other posts as of late contradict himself and generally ignore the hard hitting questions levied at him. Instead he chose to keep the poo-flinging fight between himself and BH going. I want to hear his reponse before you hammer him into the dust, but I don't think it will be much better than what we've already seen.

@BH, enough of a "y" for you?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 07:39 GMT

#1682

yes

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 08:11 GMT

#1683

bros where u ata

Refallen

452 Posts

January 14 2012 08:24 GMT

#1684

I'm voting for RoL bar some last-minute role-claim, no worries.

Tyrran

France777 Posts

January 14 2012 09:17 GMT

#1685

Okay so it seems i was wrong about HoD. I'm going to unvote him . Unless someone counter claims which is extremely unlikely due to breadcrumbs. Looks like he got extremely lucky on night one. I'm going to be busy this WE, but i'll try to find some time to read some filters

##Unvote HoD

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 09:34 GMT

#1686

On January 14 2012 18:17 Tyrran wrote:
Okay so it seems i was wrong about HoD. I'm going to unvote him . Unless someone counter claims which is extremely unlikely due to breadcrumbs.

Anyone who thinks that breadcrumbs are a reasonable explanation or support for a claim needs to spend some more time thinking.

A good scum player breadcrumbs every blue role during the start of the game, then points them out if he wants to claim. This should be obvious.

The real question we should be asking is: Where did HoD breadcrumb his investigative results in the event of being shot by the acolyte?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 09:34 GMT

#1687

Actually the real questions is "are there no counterclaims? nope? good."

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:01 GMT

#1688

I think it's likely that Wiggles was the sage

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:03 GMT

#1689

But I'm likely fine with lynching RoL instead

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:07 GMT

#1690

There are only two roles angels can really fake claim in this setup: Sage and seer. Breadcrumbing means absolutely nothing, especially if RoL is on his team to give him the idea.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 10:10 GMT

#1691

That's true-- a false claim of the DH or Jailkeeper is immediately sorted out. We can't do the same with Sage unless a corrupted townie claims AND the Acolyte doesn't kill him, and there's no way to confirm a Seer.

I'm just wondering where he breadcrumbed his N2 investigative results, as any good DT would. The angels have a non-masked potential KP, and knowing that, he should have written his non-demon investigative results from N2 coded in a post. If he could point to that that would be great.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 14 2012 10:15 GMT

#1692

Alright dude I can barely stay awake it's 2 am.

For the record:

On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the Day 3 Lynch.

With 13 alive, 7 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:

HarbingerOfDoom (3): ~~Tyrran~~, syllogism, layabout, Grackaroni, ~~Zephirdd~~, -Zephirdd, -Tyrran

RebirthOfLeGenD (2): ~~Grackaroni~~, ~~Zephirdd~~, Blazinghand, -Zephirdd, -Grackaroni, Spaackle

Spaackle (1): ~~Zephirdd~~, -Zephirdd, Zephirdd

Bluelightz (1): Jackal58

Blazinghand (1): RebirthOfLeGenD

The Day 3 deadline is at January 15 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 14:48:43 from now.)

We got ~15 hours left gentlehombres and ladiemarms. By now you are all intimately familiar with my critiques of RoL (whether you wanted to be or not LOL) and his play this game.

Good night.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:18 GMT

#1693

On January 14 2012 13:37 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
And layabout, I like how you managed to find a replacement for doing any actual analysis or scum-hunting, it's cute.

You have done zero scum hunting. Now you pop-in, claim sage and don't even say who you want to lynch.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:23 GMT

#1694

Wiggles warned about trusting breadcrumbing and posted this on n2

Because I want him (RoL) shot tonight by the DH. He probably won't flip, though, as I get the feeling he's an angel more than a demon, so the seer can potentially check him as well. It also solves the problem of having to convince people to lynch him if he flips demon, as most people seem very reluctant to push anyone who they see as a "vet".

I think he investigated RoL on n1 and got not-demon

Refallen

452 Posts

January 14 2012 10:38 GMT

#1695

Gonna be voting here.
Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:44 GMT

#1696

Look at Wiggles' post above and see how it makes sense coming from someone who isn't the Sage. He did not ask the sage to investigate RoL.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 10:46 GMT

#1697

Well I suppose it sort of makes sense as DH+sage would be a waste. Further, there's nothing particularly wrong with lynching RoL and sending HoD to purgatory

Refallen

452 Posts

January 14 2012 11:33 GMT

#1698

I don't think we should lynch anyone who roleclaimed unless there's no other targets.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

January 14 2012 11:45 GMT

#1699

On January 14 2012 20:33 Refallen wrote:
I don't think we should lynch anyone who roleclaimed unless there's no other targets.

This is awful, but in this situation I might be fine with lynching RoL as we can still jail HoD. Frankly it looks like they've both given up. It's extremely unlikely for the real sage to do what HoD did; that is to say basically stop playing, show up to claim sage and then not do anything else. I'm very confident that HoD is the angel of death and quite confident RoL is some other angel.

Wiggles' post makes most sense, by far, from the perspective of Sage who knew he was likely going to die. Also, angels can't really fake claim seer either because then you have to explain why you are being left alive.

Refallen

452 Posts

January 14 2012 11:48 GMT

#1700

My statement dosen't have anything to do with how likely the claim is being true. I don't want to lynch anyone who roleclaims until the concealer dies.