Ok, fair enough. Do you believe there is a way to communicate the the demons via vote movement that can benefit us today? If so, what is that? I'll do that instead.

If you don't think this can help us find angels, why?

Blazinghand

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January 16 2012 22:19 GMT

#2028

layabout: if I were a demon I'd know how RoL flipped, and if there were still 3 angels on the field I would absolutely accept that offer.

Also, if I were a demon false-claiming CT wouldn't I just get killed by the demon-hunter? It sounds really dumb to me. After all, the demon hunter is killing me tonight for sure to get rid of a demon vote after we lynch an angel.

If I were an angel false-claiming CT, the demons would just use their real CT plus people's arguments to bury me.

and if I were town, why would I false-claim CT?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:27 GMT

#2032

"only" 2-4 votes tomorrow? are you an idiot? there are gonna be like 7 people alive tomorrow.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:29 GMT

#2033

like, you understand that tomorrow there might be 7 people and 4 demon-controlled votes if we don't kill me or a demon tonight, right? that the demons could just brutally crap all over town and angels if we don't do something about it?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:31 GMT

#2035

Look, here's why demons should do this and why town should do this:

unless an angel dies today, angels win like 90%.

both the demon faction and town want to lynch an angel. All the demons have to do is put my vote on an angel and we'll know what's up. then, the demon hunter can kill a demon or myself, or the demon hunter and the last angel can split fire, one of them killing me and one killing a demon, or something. The point is, this is the best chance for town, and there's no reason for demons not to help.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:41 GMT

#2037

layabout you indeed are a moron.

look, we need to lynch an angel today or else angels win. Demons OR town both need this to happen.

I see now reason why we wouldn't work together to do this. The fact of the matter is, the goals of Demon and town are the same during this specific moment in time. They will diverge as soon as the night begins since we'll need to start killing demons and CTs, but the point is, unless we kill an angel, they're probably gonna win.

do you deny this?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:42 GMT

#2038

Like, if the demons help us lynch the AoD or whatever, yes they will lose the CT via getting shot by someone probably or maybe lose a demon, but on the other hand, this is better than the alternative, which is entering day 5 with an extra angel. Better an angel gets lynched than a demon or VT if you are a demon...

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:43 GMT

#2039

Actually, maybe you aren't a moron, layabout. maybe you're an angel.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:51 GMT

#2041

Grackaroni, no, don't confuse things. First they use their vote to indicate if they are willing to reveal his flip, then we set up a code for them to tell us what they want to tell us.

don't pay attention to grackaroni's code, stick to mine.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 16 2012 22:54 GMT

#2045

I find it profoundly unlikely that a demon would actually hard-claim being a demon when they could just communicate by moving my vote around.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 00:00 GMT

#2058

Grackaroni is not dark.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 00:04 GMT

#2060

Exactly! That's why he was perfect for investigating, becuase I know what the results mean.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 01:33 GMT

#2070

On January 17 2012 10:31 Refallen wrote:
We need to decide on a lynxh target. I do not mind lynching either dirkzor/Tyrran/layabout here

We can't afford to not lynch an angel today. I think layabout is a demon since he was twisted...

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 05:57 GMT

#2074

On January 17 2012 10:35 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like we've came to an agreement that we want to lynch an angel though.
I don't see Layabout flipping Angel. Bluelightz would be a much preferable lynch over layabout.

This much should be obvious. We need to lynch an angel, even if there are only two. If we do not lynch an angel today, I don't see how town can win.

Why don't you see Layabout flipping Angel?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 08:11 GMT

#2077

On January 17 2012 15:15 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:

Show nested quote +

Maybe because he wants the sage dead really badly (and remember, the angels are certain that I am actually the sage given the lack of counter-claim), and because he was twisted by the demons last night?

I agree. I was just trying to get grack to talk. What do you think about lynching grack

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 08:11 GMT

#2078

The silence in here is deafening

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 08:16 GMT

#2079

On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
The Day 4 deadline is at 2012-01-18 10:00:00 KST. (That's approximately 16:45:04 from now.)

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 09:27 GMT

#2080

So uh yeah guys are we around or what? how are we feeling about lynching grackaroni

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 10:13 GMT

#2082

Dirkzor what you think of Grack

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

January 17 2012 17:30 GMT

#2111

Good morning gents. Layabout there is a special place for people who use unnecessary spoilers.

So, let's talk about Hope

If RoL isn't an angel, we have 3 angels alive. If we lynch an angel today, and it's the AoD or acolyte, that'll bring us down to 2 angels. the DH will shoot me and the angels will kill a town player, but maybe a demon too. in a best case for town scenario they kill a demon.

That lets us enter day 5 with 1 CT, 1 Demon, 2 Angels, 3 town-affiliated people.
If we lynch another angel, and the angel kills a town player, and the demon hunter kills, lets say, the last demon
we can enter day 6 with 1 angel and 2 town, and it's lylo.

It's not over for town even if there are 3 angels alive right now-- we just need to constantly lynch angels and pick off a demon or two over the next couple of nights.

And even if it were over for town, our goal is still to lynch every angel-- that's our minor victory condition if we can't win outright.

I haven't liked bluelightz all game. If I had control of my vote it would be on him.

I dont' know why demons are leaving my vote on layabout. I think they may be trying to exonerate him (a demon) by parking it there.