• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:57
CET 05:57
KST 13:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy6ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
How to Withdraw +1(415) 8649-785 Money from Fide Fidelity 401(k) Withdrawal +1(415)8649-785: Gu Luxury Moissanite Sparkle Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
CaratFlair Diamond Engagement Rings – Elegant Fore US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2117 users

Purgatory Mafia - Page 22

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 31 Next All
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:30 GMT
#1953
The other thing this means is that town has 5 votes, angels have 2 votes, and the demons have 3 votes, including mine.

This means that the town cannot win a vote today unless we have the help of one of the scum teams. I have some nominal control over my vote until the demons mess with it, meaning that assuming they're afraid of WIFOM or something, they probably won't actually manipulate my vote since they're afraid of giving something away. Their goal is to kill an angel or the DH today and get up to 4 votes out of 8 or 7 tomorrow, controlling the town vote.

;_; i'm unclear on where to go here guys
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:32 GMT
#1954
In the event the acolyte is alive, I just realized, the demons are probably gonna twist me tonight, so at least there's that sad silver lining.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:35 GMT
#1957
Actually, the demons KNOW the alignment/role of RoL since the concealer gets the result of the lynch. that means that i'm for sure living through the night-- whether or not I am twisted (and whether or not there are extra kills) will indicate whether or not the Acolyte is alive.

In fact, the fact that layabout was twisted last night (and therefore not me) makes me even more sure that the acolyte is dead.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:48 GMT
#1961
[b]Ok so if you do a little math, you'll realize that it's super important that we A) lynch an angel today and B) shoot a demon overnight. The angels might even be interested in doing it. If we fail to kill a demon or a corrupted townie before day 5, the demons will enter day 5 with 4 votes, and there will be as few as 7 players left at this point if we lynch a townie/angel, the angel stabs a townie, and the demon hunter kills a townie.

In other words, the demons could win as early as tomorrow if we do it wrong.

Alternatively, if we lynch one demon and have the demon hunter kill the other, the angels will kill a townie and we'll enter day 5 with 7 players, 2 of whom are angels, 5 of whom are town. if the acolyte is dead, it's a 1-kp single faction mafia game from that point out.

So, the real question is: Is the acolyte alive? because if the acolyte is alive, we could enter day 5 with 6 players, 2 of whom are angels, 4 of whom are town and may be vulnerable to corrupted kills or dark power kills from the acolyte.

I'm thinking the acolyte is dead because of the twisting yesterday. If the acolyte is alive, town is in serious trouble with the "let's try to get rid of the demons" plan. If the acolyte is dead, killing the AoD and puts us in a strong position, but only if the DH can shoot a demon.

Does this sound right?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:50 GMT
#1963
Oh and in the "ideal scenario", which is lynch an angel, demon hunter stabs a demon, we enter day 5 with:

2 corrupted townies, 1 demon, 1 angel, 3 townies

even in that scenario, we're forced to team up with the angel to try to take out the very strong demon faction.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 11:50 GMT
#1964
Suddenly this game doesn't seem so demon-disfavored after all.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:08 GMT
#1966
It depends what he's got, honestly. I think if he had 2 angel reads he'd have claimed already. If he has 3 "not angel" reads, it depends on how scummy they are also, doesn't it? like if we can use these to identify demons that's great. If he has 1 angel read, that's possibly "good enough" at this point-- we could lynch that angel, have the demonhunter shoot layabout and the remaining angel go for one of the remaining demons, or if that can't be worked out, kill me so we enter tomorrow with:

1 live angel (AoD or the observer with the gun that can't kill the demonhunter), 1 corrupted townie from night 4, 1 live demon, possibly the wister, and 4 live townies.

This will put us in a situation where there are 2 demon votes, 1 angel vote, 4 town votes, and 1 angel KP.

However, it will require the cooperation of the last angel and the demon hunter to "split fire" so that we kill at least one demon vote between layabout and me, keeping the twister from using it to block a shot.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:10 GMT
#1967
Of course all this depends on the seer not being a dead syllogism.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:13 GMT
#1969
The other option we have is to openly ask an angel to claim-- we lynch the angel then the remaining angel splits fire with the demon hunter between me and layabout. This can be done if Syllogism was the Seer. The angels *MAY* agree to this because if they don't, there's a high chance the demons just win. they probably won't if the acolyte is somehow alive, and just try to kill both me and layabout themselves tonight.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:14 GMT
#1971
On January 16 2012 21:12 Bluelightz wrote:
@BH what do you think of mass roleclaiming?


It depends what roles are left in the game. We've had a couple masked flips, and I don't like the idea of some scum who saw the inside of a masked flip taking the town wherever they want, especially if the acolyte is alive. It might be more facile just to directly ask a faction for help in weakening another faction.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:15 GMT
#1972
On January 16 2012 21:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 21:12 Bluelightz wrote:
@BH what do you think of mass roleclaiming?


It depends what roles are left in the game. We've had a couple masked flips, and I don't like the idea of some scum who saw the inside of a masked flip taking the town wherever they want, especially if the acolyte is alive. It might be more facile just to directly ask a faction for help in weakening another faction.


On the other hand, we/someone shoudl sit down and work out how a mass roleclaim would work out with all possibilities of masked flips being X, Y, and Z, and also what possibilites there are for scum faleclaiming during this in different ways.

I doubt there's a safe way to mass roleclaim at this point.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:25 GMT
#1973
Am I the only one realizing how close we are to being bonerized right now?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 12:58 GMT
#1975
sorry REfallen I haven't read his filter or your case in detail. It's 5 am here so I'm going to bed. I hope there's a new flurry of posts while I'm asleep :D

alright gentlemen I think we should look for a way to lynch an angel and shoot a demon / demon vote. nobody claim unnecessarily.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 21:52 GMT
#2014
demons, I am requesting your help. read this post carefully if you want to have a chance to win this game. currently you are in control of my vote, and i cannot change that.

we need to lynch an angel and you guys have a better idea of who that is than the town does.

You guys have a set of information that I do not.
1) was layabout actually twisted? (is HoD's claim real)
2) what was RoL's flip?
3) your own identities.

Please do the following
1) if you are willing to talk about whether or not layabout was twisted, move my vote onto myself.
2) if you are willing to reveal the identify of RoL's flip, move my vote onto grackaroni then onto myself.
3) otherwise, please move my vote onto your best read for angels. If that read happens to be layabout (where my vote is currently parked), indicate that this is the case by moving my vote onto myself then back onto layabout.


4) If you would like me to introduce additional options for communication via vote movement, move my vote onto jackal then onto myself.

Thank you for your help. let's lynch an angel today.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 21:58 GMT
#2016
I know you guys will need some time to talk over it in your QT, and maybe you're not awake, but we've got like 27 hours left so let me know as soon as you can.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 21:59 GMT
#2017
OH ZEPHIR YOU'RE RIGHT. OK HERE'S THE NEW CODE DEMONS.



Please do the following
1) if you are willing to talk about whether or not layabout was twisted, move my vote onto ZEPHIRDD.
2) if you are willing to reveal the identify of RoL's flip, move my vote onto grackaroni then onto ZEPHIRDD.
3) otherwise, please move my vote onto your best read for angels. If that read happens to be layabout (where my vote is currently parked), indicate that this is the case by moving my vote onto ZEPHIRDD then back onto layabout.


4) If you would like me to introduce additional options for communication via vote movement, move my vote onto jackal then onto ZEPHIRDD.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 22:02 GMT
#2019
I'm gonna wait to see what the demons have to say about this. They need this angel lynch as much as we do.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#2020
Final refined demon communication code:

Please do the following
1) if you are willing to talk about whether or not layabout was twisted, move my vote onto REFALLEN then ZEPHIRDD.
2) if you are willing to reveal the identify of RoL's flip, move my vote onto GRACKARONI then onto ZEPHIRDD.
3) otherwise, please move my vote onto your best read for angels. If that read happens to be LAYABOUT (where my vote is currently parked), indicate that this is the case by moving my vote onto ZEPHIRDD then back onto LAYABOUT.


4) If you would like me to introduce additional options for communication via vote movement, move my vote onto JACKAL then onto ZEPHIRDD.[/QUOTE]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 22:07 GMT
#2023
I see no problem with this code for communicating with the demons. Feel free to continue with your analysis. However, the demons know what RoL really was, and whether you were really twisted, which tells us what HoD is. They also know which scum are demons, which will increase our chance of hitting angels.

I honestly think this is not a bad idea at all.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
January 16 2012 22:09 GMT
#2024
On January 17 2012 07:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Final refined demon communication code:

Please do the following
1) if you are willing to talk about whether or not layabout was twisted, move my vote onto REFALLEN then ZEPHIRDD.
2) if you are willing to reveal the identify of RoL's flip, move my vote onto GRACKARONI then onto ZEPHIRDD.
3) otherwise, please move my vote onto your best read for angels. If that read happens to be LAYABOUT (where my vote is currently parked), indicate that this is the case by moving my vote onto ZEPHIRDD then back onto LAYABOUT.


4) If you would like me to introduce additional options for communication via vote movement, move my vote onto JACKAL then onto ZEPHIRDD.


Just in case the demon team missed it last page
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft496
PiGStarcraft306
RuFF_SC2 197
Nina 188
mcanning 73
-ZergGirl 24
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5506
Sea 4538
ggaemo 76
Snow 36
Noble 20
Bale 15
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever742
febbydoto30
League of Legends
JimRising 905
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1748
Stewie2K632
Other Games
summit1g9151
C9.Mang0365
Trikslyr23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1288
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream67
Other Games
BasetradeTV65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH38
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1213
• Rush1143
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 4m
Afreeca Starleague
5h 4m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.