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So according to Palmar the best way to continue a day 1 discussion is to shut people up and then not provide anything else to talk about?
With your post you closed, or tried to close, some of the topics that we have without providing anything of your own. Oh there was a question to someone but thats it... And thanks for defending me?
@Cwave
You take the post out of context. The posts before that was all focusing on how the angels seems to be strongest and we should focus on them. That was just plain wrong as i pointed out.
About nighttime: I've just found a difference between the OP and the actual end time of the day and can find no reason for this. I am still wondering how it came to be that way...
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On January 06 2012 00:03 Cwave wrote:
Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that!
Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing?
I know Palmar already asked this, but how am I different from BH, HoD or Refallen who all focused on Angels being the ones we should focus on. Especially Refallens post here:
On January 04 2012 16:52 Refallen wrote:
Finally started! Hype!
My first thoughts on the setup;
Obviously, I think the best way to go about this game is to focus on killing angels in the early game. Once we get rid of the acolyte, the seer has an infinitely easier job in cleansing corruption because we can actually claim if we got corrupted and not get targetted right now as we get closer to the late game lynching demons obviously becomes more and more important, but town would have a huge benefit if we can reduce angel KP early on in the game, as this has a building effect of letting more townies live = demon corrupt has less of an impact.
This post is way more Anti-Angel then my post is being Anti-demon.
From my post:
That is why I think that killing any angel or demon is good. Not one over the other.
Trying to build a case on me with reason(s) others have done worse. Scummy?
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So since Cwave wants me dead i took a look at his filter.
On January 04 2012 19:54 Cwave wrote:
Wahee, the game started and i'm loving the potential dynamics of this game and my excel sheet is ready for it!
To continue on this strategy "discussion" that has started and wheter or not we should discuss this, i think as town we have too as its our only communication platform. Angels and Demons can discuss outside the thread so people hammering on the fact we shouldnt discuss strategy have it wrong in my opinion.
As its not relevant at the moment but will be after night one, i agree on the fact that claiming corruption means giving yourself on a platter to the acolyte unless our town sage illumanates you or channeler banishes you.
We also have a seer who in my opinion has the most important power of the game, namely the identification of angels! As of such, please don't roleclaim for now as mentioned in the pre-game discussion for with 3 factions in this game, 2 factions will instantly try to kill you.
Other thing, is there any way to see the vote count from the Zbot or do we only get a result when the majority happens?
His first post seems pretty townish. The thing that stands out is what i bolded. Why is the seer more important then say, the sage? The sage can also cleanse corruption aswell as finding demonscum whereas the sage can only find angelscum.
The only reason it stands out is because he targeted me because i pointed out that demons are just as big of a threat that angels are. Are you demon Cwave?
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@layabout
Maybe that sentence didn't come out as it was meant. What i meant was that Refallen paints the Angels as a much bigger threat then I painted the demons to be. (For the record my first post was meant to make the demons just as much a threat as the angels)
And I agree with you. Angel or Demon lynches/kills are good either way. Which i also posted.
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@layabout
How is the statement that the setup scares me = me saying i think i'm bad? This setup is very interesting because it is not a straight up mafia game. It scares me becausei think its harder to figure stuff out...
and your 2nd quote of mine. Read the context and the strat (wasn't important how the strat went) that i actually posted and you will see that your point is completely useless.
And please lay, stop using spoilers when you are just making an extra sentence (inserted sentence? Mid sentence?) Don't know the english expression.
Edit before posting: Zerphirdd: I did NOT noob claim =(
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Risk.nukes first post
Disregarding meta (i have nothing) his first post for me can be described like this: "Lets push ever so slightly on 3 different targets and lets see who bites." Shitty plan as a town - he later claimed that was his plan, but a perfectly good play for scum. Start a weak case and have someone else pick it up can carry it to mislynch. Rests of his posts are basicly fluff and useless. Oh and avoiding commiting on anything with excuses.
I dislike a lynch on Bluelightz. He have been active and trying to contribute. How his contributions have helped town can be discussed but I take that as bad play rather then him being scum. He is just a guy who saids what he wants in one sentence. =)
I'll take a look on Palmar/Wiggles case/counter-case soon.
@Cwave. You posted some time ago that you wanted to shoot me without reason. Still want to shoot me? But more importantly why?
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Okay about palmar/Wiggles:
Wiggles filters contains a few "ARGH TEXT ALL OVER" posts but the only one with actual content is the case on Palmar. The rest are just generic play tips, setup talk and then a follow post to his case on Palmar.
About his case (clicky):
His case on Palmar is essentiel useless for me because it's all based on meta. He basicly ask me to trust him and vote on palmar because he gets a different feeling from palmar then he usually does.
When i read palmars defence the case just fall apart. Wiggles either lied on purpose or didn't read the thread/palmars filter. Considering Palmar had 1½ page of filter at the point of the case it would be hard to miss something that obvious. I mean it was in a post by itself and he pointed out the whole conversation with Bluelightz which that post was a part of.
In Palmars filter i fail to find anything that i would really find scummy. Again I can't take a meta-plastic-bag over his head so i just look at the actual content. He discusses and press bluelightz to give an answer that isn't evasive. I don't find anything that screams town to me either.
Out of the two i would rather see Wiggles hang as of now. One of the main points of Palmars case on Wiggles is that Wiggles is better then making such a case on Palmar (meta - i don't know), however the points about intentionally lying however are spot on and very discriminating for wiggles.
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On January 07 2012 00:51 syllogism wrote:
While I consider palmar the better lynch out of wiggles/palmar, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch palmar today. We've other very good lynches available, it's a setup with 6 scum and he is very likely to become more transparent the longer the game goes on if he is scum or dead if he is town.
I'll probably narrow the list down but I would like to keep the lynch between erandorr/risk/tyrran/refallen. Out of those erandorr appears to be by far the safest lynch and the only reason I haven't been actively pushing him as the #1 lynch was to give him more time and because it's pretty disappointing if he again decided not to play due to rolling scum.
While I agree that palmar/Wiggles aren't our best lynch option, why would you rather hang Palmar? Meta? Because i feel that Wiggles case is bad. Whether it is intentionally to push an agenda or just bad i don't know.
About your other targets I find risk the most scummiest.
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Because you and Tyrran are null to me where Risk i'm leaning a bit on the red side due to his first post.
You have basicly not posted anything of worth and all of tyrrans (few) posts are neither town or scum to me.
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Syllo why are you cherrypicking what question you answer?! Question!
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Also the fact that he don't like to lynch off meta, but Wiggles case is all meta and is solid. wat?
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I just read through Risk, erandorr and tyrrans filter. I dislike Risk's the most.
I wouldn't mind lynching any of the 3 since they are all useless.
##Vote Risk
(also i feel bad for erandorr being lynched on his birthday  )
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I know he wont be lynched - yet.
I agree with you syllo. thats why i looked at the top 3 guys to try to find the best one to lynch. In my opinion thats risk. His first post seemed rehearsed and his "case" on bluelightz made no sense. Playing carefree is a town trait.
He don't want to lynch palmar because he is palmar (wat?). That a horrible reason to not lynch someone and not something we need further down the line. Later he claims that he is leaning red on palmar... You think he is scum and you won't lynch him?
His defence so far have been almost nothing:
On January 07 2012 11:00 risk.nuke wrote:
Slowly and steadily I'm beeing raised to the top, scumagenda *cough*
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On January 08 2012 04:13 layabout wrote:
My chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise..
My two weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency..
My three weapons are fear and surprise and rutherless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope!
Four, no Amongst my Weapons.. Amongst my weaponry are elements such as fear and -
I will post again..
Happy birthday Erandorr! care to spent some of it here?
Wat?
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@Cwave
I'll take a shower. While i do that, do you mind telling me why i smell?
@Jackal
We're not lynching palmar today. Get over it. We all notice that you think he is scum but what else have you done beside saying he is scum?
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On January 08 2012 05:51 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 05:28 Dirkzor wrote:
@Cwave
I'll take a shower. While i do that, do you mind telling me why i smell?
@Jackal
We're not lynching palmar today. Get over it. We all notice that you think he is scum but what else have you done beside saying he is scum? Why not? He your scum buddy too? And I'll ask the same of you. Reading your filter is a lot like reading nothing.
I dont know what palmar is. But him saying i'm town is not buying him any credit. All I say is we can't lynch him today - at least i think a vote switch is unlikely to happen at this point so i see no reason to start hunting him. That and I honestly believe there are better targets. Like risk - whom I think i have explained why I dislike.
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Since the deadline is in little under 3 hours I would say that within 3 hours is a good time to lynch. O_o
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Syllo how is your stance on palmar now?
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I'll rephrase.
Have palmars activity in the end of day 1 changed you stance on him? And no I don't expect hourly updates but I don't ask questions unless i'm interested in the answer.
Reason i ask is i feel palmar changed gears somewhere mid day 1.
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What do you want me to say? Bye? I'm just waiting for night post..
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