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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
December 28 2011 12:42 GMT
#14
##Signup

Very interesting setup...

The 8.00 pm EST is New york time?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
December 30 2011 22:14 GMT
#55
Nice, i'm in and so hyped! =)

Game on!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
December 30 2011 22:47 GMT
#61
In order for the Demonic Concealer to use the conceal day action, submit to ZBot a PM with ##Conceal. If you do not wish to use your conceal day action during a particular day, submit ##Don't Conceal. The last valid PM sent to ZBot before the lynch occurs will be used. Remember that the lynch occurs instantly once a player has a majority of votes.


Do you need to send a PM every night? Even the nights you don't want to use conceal? Or is it only if you have already PM'd in a conceal and then change your mind that you need to ##Don't Conceal?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 02 2012 06:23 GMT
#93
On January 02 2012 12:03 gonzaw wrote:
Oh, I'd like an Observer QT too.

That's the QT where outsiders and dead players discuss who they think is scum and stuff right?


Correct.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 03 2012 07:35 GMT
#99
Zona has abandoned us! Oh no!

(Game starts when?)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 08:46 GMT
#128
Game on!

This setup scares the living shit out of me. So many nuances to keep track of. Anyway...

I agree that Angels appear to be strongest in the beginning with 1/2 KP. But what haven't been mentioned is that Angels can kill the demon for us aswell. If we lynch Angel of Death and Angelic Acolyte we will have to lynch/Demon hunter the Demons. Since I don't know the Demon hunter or how good that person is, he could just aswell kill 3 town people the first 3 nights which of course would not be very favourable for us. It basicly means we would need to do more correct lynches while having a good demon hunter that don't fuck us over with continously town kills.
Demons also have the Twist ability which basicly makes one (1) of their members immune to night actions, rendering the demon hunter to be less useful.

What i wanted to point out that even if we get 3 correct Angel lynches (unlikely) the first 3 nights. The demons are equally capable to fuck us over. That is why I think that killing any angel or demon is good. Not one over the other. If we knew which angel or demon, it would be a different matter.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 08:48 GMT
#129
Edit: We would of course need to slay all 3 angels before town had to deal with demons themselves. Not only Death and Acolyte.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 09:18 GMT
#141
On January 04 2012 17:56 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 17:46 Dirkzor wrote:
Game on!

This setup scares the living shit out of me. So many nuances to keep track of. Anyway...

I agree that Angels appear to be strongest in the beginning with 1/2 KP. But what haven't been mentioned is that Angels can kill the demon for us aswell. If we lynch Angel of Death and Angelic Acolyte we will have to lynch/Demon hunter the Demons. Since I don't know the Demon hunter or how good that person is, he could just aswell kill 3 town people the first 3 nights which of course would not be very favourable for us. It basicly means we would need to do more correct lynches while having a good demon hunter that don't fuck us over with continously town kills.
Demons also have the Twist ability which basicly makes one (1) of their members immune to night actions, rendering the demon hunter to be less useful.

What i wanted to point out that even if we get 3 correct Angel lynches (unlikely) the first 3 nights. The demons are equally capable to fuck us over. That is why I think that killing any angel or demon is good. Not one over the other. If we knew which angel or demon, it would be a different matter.

Demon Hunter:
Show nested quote +
Each night, you may target a player other than yourself to attack.

Twister:
Show nested quote +
Any attempts to illuminate, slay, stalk, or observe that player will fail.

Doesn't make any mention of attack (nor of sense). Demon hunter should be good to go on any twisted demons.


Oh right. My bad. Thx for clearing that up.

Oh and by the way. Your whole discussion about sharing angel/demon strat or not is stupid. What Refallen wrote wasn't a strat it was obvious and its okay to post that. I think what HOD means is an elaborate strat that can't be countered by town - ei. a strat that will be advanced and give angels/demons a chance to win because town has no counter.

A strat like:
X angel kill A town with powers, then claims that he was in purgatory so Y Angel can say blah blah

right?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 09:22 GMT
#144
Hehe... I must admit I didn't think that strat through. It kinda just came to me while writing
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#147
Well.. Not really. If what is posted is obvious or filler its okay. But handing a well thought out strat to Demons/Angels is bad.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 09:43 GMT
#150
Thats an easy way to lurk... O_o
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 09:48 GMT
#152
But how can i read is any other way than a horrible excuse to not post until later. Why not write "I'm flying Home/away/whatever with no internet during the trip. Should be able to post when i Arrive at [Time]"

because the other way everyone can just post a timestamp...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 10:52 GMT
#155
On January 04 2012 15:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Also, due to the secret vote, vote count analysis isn't available, which makes me feel somewhat at a loss. I think we'll have to hold people accountable to what they say, since we can't hold them accountable to how they vote.


Where does it say that it is hidden? The only thing you can't see is when people voted. Zbot seems to post who voted who. If they are in order based on time I don't know, but you should be able to see who voted who.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 14:18 GMT
#162
kite:
Verb. To fraudulently use dud or stolen cheques. E.g."I got some fantastic sportswear this morning, kiting in the precinct."
Noun. A person who passes dud or stolen cheques.


= Palmar is scum. Hows that for meta!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 14:29 GMT
#165
Day 1 seems to be longer then it should be? Zbot claims it ends in 3 days and 10h (aprox. as of writing) when the OP states:
Game timing:

If there are 15 or more players alive at the start of the day, the day will last at most 72 hours.
If there are 14 or fewer players alive at the start of the day, the day will last at most 48 hours.
Nights will last 24 hours plus the minimal amount of time necessary to allow it to end at 8PM EST.
Day deadlines are always at 8PM EST as well.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#166
On January 04 2012 13:15 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:21 Blazinghand wrote:
From the acolyte description:
You are still in training to be angelic warrior, so you take great care in everything you do. But should the need arise, you are ready to do what you must. Every night, you may target a player to stalk. When you do so, choose one of: demon, corrupted town, or town with dark powers. If your target matches your choice, that player will be killed. If the Angel of Death has been eliminated, you may (instead of stalking,) target a player to slay. That player will be killed. You win with the angels.


Once there's no Angel of Death, are your kills "masked" like the Angel of Death's kills are? Or do people see the alignment and role of the people you kill?


Same question about the Angelic Observer as the last existing angel.

If you are the last remaining angel, you may (instead of observing,) target a player to slay. If the target is town and not the demon hunter, that player will be killed

Only the Angel of Death hides the role and alignment of those that are slain.


Read thread.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 14:38 GMT
#168

Actually, we can use the banish ability offensively to determine the role of scummy player. If the slay ability is not used one nigth, then the banished (or the transported) player are very likely to be the angel holding the power of the death ray, and they should be priority target for investingation/future banishement. Therefore we can banish one of the player we think is an angel and see if the slay ability is used that nigth.

Note that if no corruption happens on even numbered nigths , its harder to conclude because Demons could have tried to corrupt an angel or the sage.


What if they target the player that is in purgatory? If Player A is in Purgatory and is targeted with Slay, he won't die. All we would know (from day posts) are that noone died from slay. Was it because Player A was targeted or is Player A the Angel of death?

Either way we can't conclude anything. It would be very suspicious if it happened several nights with the same player in purgatory. We could have gotten lucky either way: Having the AoD in Purgatory or the AoD targeted the player in Purgatory, but no way to know which.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 20:45 GMT
#229
@Zephirdd

Right now i think both demons/angels wants to kill powerroles. Of course the roles that affect their faction. So both sides will be hunting blues and causing mislynch. Later however if only 1 demon remains, that demon will benefit from a strong town in taking down the remaining angels. My conclusion is that you can't say if the faction wants chaos or order (in town) because it depends on the situation that faction is in.

We have plenty of time left day1. Over 72 hours according to zbot (still confused over that, and noone responded to my earlier post?) so no reason to lynch anyone yet as others have pointed out.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#231
layabout I know where you are going with this and I agree. I'm all for lynching a lurker if nothing better appears.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 05 2012 08:47 GMT
#271
Whats worrying about Palmar and Erandorr is that they both showed that they have seen this and know they are playing.

Palmar wrote 1 trolling sentence and then nothing.
Erandorr wrote 2 trolling posts and then nothing - only 6 hours ago though.

RoL havent even posted yet.

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