Dirkzor
damn you players with letter D. Drazerk was from another game LOL
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Barbiero
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Dirkzor damn you players with letter D. Drazerk was from another game LOL | ||
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In every case he made, it took a lot of pressure to get the man to commit. For most of this game, Grack is non-committal. Why does he hide in the shadows so? Why does he lurk? + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2012 04:26 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2012 04:23 Blazinghand wrote: If I knew 100% Bluelightz was town, I'd be focusing other players. There's a difference between saying I wouldn't mind if he is town and it might be good to kill, just because even if he is town he could be useless. "Oh but Blazinghand I am grackaroni and have no understanding of nuance please explain" Oh, Grackaroni, you are always so self-derprecating. Here I will help you. If Bluelights is lynched and flips scum, that would be sweet. If Bluelightz flips town, i'm gonna mind a lot. I'm gonna be pissed because he played like shitty dick. It will still have been the right move to have lynched him based on the info we had, and even if he is town, you have to admit he's useless-- indistinguishable from scum and actively hurtful if he, somehow, lives to LYLO. So I guess my question for you, Captain Grack Sparrow, is, do you really think I'd be happy lynching a townie day 1? Or do you think I'm just willing to accept the consequences of my actions, like a goddamn man, make a case, like a goddamn man, and ACTUALLY VOTE AND DO STUFF. fine. ##Vote: HarbingerofDoom But with that I am off, Will be back in a few hours though, I promise ![]() On January 11 2012 13:13 Grackaroni wrote: I feel that between risk.nuke and RoL, Risk.nuke is the better lynch. RoL seems to truly believe that the voting block and confirmed townies would be more helpful than the blues themselves and seems to have spent a lot of time considering the implications of the mass roleclaim. I get the feeling that he legitimately believes his plan is good for town, and he stands by it even after the town declared it anti-town. The largest flaw in the plan is not the theory itself but the actual application. If only a portion of the town comes in to claim the whole plan falls apart, letting a portion of townies make claims is bad. Besides it's possible that we have a couple derp townies who would lie about their roles in order to save themselves or draw hits. risk.nuke mentioned a plan that consisted of sitting back and observing posts and got pissed off at Syllo for ruining it. I think he has been overreacting to accusations. He also is using meta on other people yet when it's used against himself meta is worthless. The only thing I agree with is that Palmar's flip does make me think that you are less likely to be a demon, still though if you were an Angel of course you're going to ask to be checked in order to prolong your life. With 20 hours to go we need to start consolidating our votes. I think risk.nuke is more likely scum than RoL but either one is preferable to a no-lynch. ##Vote: risk.nuke Even his attack on me (and his defense of RoL) is couched in unclear, uncertain terminology to take the edge off it: + Show Spoiler + On January 14 2012 00:18 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think BH is nearly as pro-town as people think he is. Show nested quote + On January 08 2012 08:56 Palmar wrote: On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote: Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? Erandorr has done nothing this game that warrants me giving him the "I'll rather no-lynch than lynch a townie" treatment, however, despite risk's last effort, do you not think he overreacted to you calling him out? Claiming that plan that literally was nothing but "I'm gonna post and see what people say", do you think he is honestly under the impression that this "plan" was so pro-town and vital, that it justifies attacking someone? I actually thought risk.nuke was decent at the game. But to answer your question, I'll be around for another half an hour or so, and there is no reason to protect erandorr. Show nested quote + On January 08 2012 09:02 Blazinghand wrote: On January 08 2012 08:56 Palmar wrote: On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote: Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? Erandorr has done nothing this game No this is wrong Erandorr has actively come to the thread and hustled us. Why on earth are his actions remotely acceptable There have been times in this game where BH has blatantly not read the thread or is misinterpreting posts. He likes to focus in on people who he feels are useless such as his case for Bluelightz (which only showed that he was anti-town) his case on erandorr (he ignores the meta which only proves that he is inactive and doesn't want to be modkilled) and finally his case on RoL (he's not scumhunting, his plan looks shitty) You are not actually scumhunting, you just lock in on people acting anti-town and tunnel them for the rest of the day to make yourself look good. you grab all their quotes and make a "case" but in reality it actually resembles what bluelightz' cases look like. Your play is legitimately worse than in Student. I am still suspicious of how long it took RoL to start scumhunting but at least he finally started. @BH: why not look into a player more active rather than only focusing on players doing nothing? there's 5 scum to catch. He also tries to disrupt my communication with the demons, after I've clearly laid out a method of communication with them: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2012 07:49 Grackaroni wrote: Why don't the demons just reveal RoL's flip, it will help us make a better decision and help you're team overall. You guys want an angel lynch just as badly as we do, use BH to vote on Tyrran if he was channeler, Use BH to vote on dirkzor if he was scum That way we know for sure whether we need to lynch HoD or not. A mislynch is BAD for your team today, give us the information and we can avoid it. Communicating with the demons via corrupted townies is allowed right? Now I'm going to talk about his interactions with Jackal. Although he vaguely talks about Jackal once or twice, here are the only two posts in which he meaningfully interacts with Jackal: On January 14 2012 10:47 Grackaroni wrote: @Jackal: I thought you wanted to lynch dirkzor? Why BL and not dirkzor... @Refallen: my vote is the 4th one there. double check before posting. The idea itself is good though, I would be happy to lynch RoL or spaackle and to banish HoD to purgatory. On January 18 2012 08:39 Grackaroni wrote: Jackal has as good chances of being angel as Tyrran/Dirkzor/Bluelightz. As long as we get a majority we've got this. ##Vote:Jackal58 So, the first one is some really low-aggression pressure on Jackal. I don't consider that a point in Grack's favor. The fact that nothing else is actually a direct interaction with Jackal is somewhat disconcerting, but on the other hand, Jackal didn't post very much. The second one actually seems like it might be an instance of anti-angel action by Grack. But look at the context before it: On January 18 2012 08:34 Blazinghand wrote: read the goddamn thread, christ On January 18 2012 08:35 Jackal58 wrote: Yes he's corrupted. How hesitant and slow he is! How clueless! Jackal has to tell him! He did end up becoming instrumental in lynching Jackal, but if you take a look, he slaps down his vote and leaves the thread at about the same time Jackal stops trying to defend himself. It's possible that at this moment, these two decided in their QT that it was time to bus and that there was no way Jackal was avoiding the noose. That's my case on Grack. It's what I got. I made this case rather than a case on, say, Zeph, because Grack seemed more suspicious to me before I started reading his filter. That being said, trust nobody. Discuss this a lot. Make cases on everyone who is scummy. Find the scum mistakes and scum behavior and drag them out into the sunlight. Have constant vigilance. | ||
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By the way, I fully anticipated a heated and interesting discussion tomorrow. Don't just be all like "we're gonna lynch grack" unless you think he's the best lynch out of the unconfirmed towns. *I* think he is the best lynch, but I'm probably not gonna be alive to make a vote tomorrow. In the event of Gracks' innocence: Grack, as a town player, I want you to try as hard as possible to get the scum lynched. That'll start with you trying to make a solid case on someone else and thereby exonerate yourself. It is your responsibility to do so. Like, anything we can do to generate evidence and put pressure on the final angel is good. The worst possible scenario is a silent day in which someone gets lynched. I want a heated discussion. I want fingers pointed. I want people making analysis and reading filters. Scumhunting Who was pro RoL or anti RoL? And more importantly, what were the reasons they gave, and were they on the fence? remember the angels didn't know the demons would mask that lynch. During the whole Jackal debacle, and my attempts to commune with the demons, what were people doing? There won't be that many people left alive. Filters won't be too long with me dead, either :D I guarantee you that right now, the last angel has already revealed himself. This game has been long enough that it's possible to find it out just based on analyzing and discussing tomorrow. I'm sure he's slipped up somewhere. Confirmed Townies Lastly, remember that it's not strictly true that there are tons of confirmed towns. Refallen is confirmed due to his called shots, and I'm basically confirmed via my senses, vote on Jackal, sense on Tyrran. HoD isn't actually confirmed unless he confirms Bluelightz-- in which case, it's very unlikely that the two of them are lying since there's probably only 1 angel. The people who have the most information (assuming that Bluelightz and HoD are both what they say they are) are actually the unconfirmed townies. See, you know your own alignment, which nobody else knows. For you, there is one less possible scum suspect than there is for Refallen. Use your information advantage. scumhunt as hard as possible. We are not currently in a "town wins for sure" scenario. Yes, we have 3 bites at the apple, but this is an apple that could take more than 3 bites to eat. Scumhunt. Read filters. Make cases. Keep the thread active. Good luck, town. Don't let your guard down. | ||
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also Zona where are you T_T | ||
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Think about how angst-ridden she was, asking WHY her lover exists! The pain their forbidden passion brings her is so great! | ||
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End of Night 5 At the end of the fifth day, the survivors hoped that the calm conditions during the day would continue. And indeed, the physical world was placid and pleasant: A silent, warm night which was a comfort after all the disturbing weather. But instead, everyone would face a personal, mental trial. Their slumber would be interrupted by intense and horrifying dreams. They saw visions of exotic worlds none had ever seen before, of battles between spiritual armies, shining, flying creatures wielding gleaming swords and dark powers snaking through the air. Most of them woke in the morning with their bodies damp with sweat. They would wonder about the meanings of the images that filled their minds. Would their ordeal finally come to an end? They gathered again, and counted only five souls remaining. One body was quickly located, wounded in many places and still smelling of fire, but that was all that would be found. The throne that was their constant companion began to glow and hum once more. Another day was about to begin. Blazinghand the ??? and Dirkzor the Town Vanilla were killed Night 5! It is now Day 6! The Day 6 deadline is at January 23 2012 10:00 KST! | ||
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