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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 18 2012 10:36 GMT
#2341
I have to go now
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 18 2012 11:03 GMT
#2342
Finally back from school.

Aw, jackal was the observer, guess I can't go for my true love anymore =(
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 18 2012 14:08 GMT
#2343
On January 18 2012 19:23 Bluelightz wrote:
Just for the trololo

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
-snip

If Bluelightz flips town, i'm gonna mind a lot. I'm gonna be pissed because he played like shitty dick. It will still have been the right move to have lynched him based on the info we had, and even if he is town, you have to admit he's useless-- indistinguishable from scum and actively hurtful if he, somehow, lives to LYLO.

-snip-


Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 15:41 ZBot wrote:
Blazinghand
Bluelightz
Dirkzor
Grackaroni
HarbingerOfDoom
layabout
Refallen
Tyrran
Zephirdd


But then!

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 09:48 ZBot wrote:Jackal58, the Angelic Observer was lynched Day 4!




That doesn't clear you from being a Demon btw. That just means you had the same read as Demons. In fact, you voted before Demons did.

Or you are a Demon as well. It's simple, really. I bet your QT went something like "So what we do?" "Jackal seems weird, try to make a case on him, I think he is Angel" "kk".


On January 18 2012 17:53 Dirkzor wrote:
Sweet!

We got an angel! =) Who wants his head in the throphy room?

Okay what do we got:

BH = Corrupted townie (Unconfirmed - but no counter claim)
Refallen = DH (Unconfirmed - but no counter claim)
HoD = Sage (Unconfirmed - "Some reason why he probably is the sage")

That leave me with 5 people left who can be scum with 2--3 (assuming) scum remaining.

Bluelightz: Fucking null read. Have given us nothing to work with. Could be anything. Jackal didn't really give us anything either... I don't know.
Grackaroni: Not demon. Town in my book.
layabout: Had a town read on him for a long time. Have to reread his filter later to determine anything.
Tyrran: Scum
Zephirdd: Scum


Making lists is cool, makes you look good. Anyways, after the day post I'll try to solve this game with logic(kinda like how the Rol/MrWiggles/HoD thing went). IMO HoD is indeed the Sage, layabout/bluelightz are the demonteam and Tyrran or Grack is the last Angel. Jackal had some pretty harsh attacks on you, and I'm not sure if it was because he just wanted A target or if he believed you to be Demon, in which case would make the demonteam layabout/dirkzor or dirkzor/bluelightz.

BTW the last line of your list is 100% wrong. But hey, it's not like you have a crystal ball to know that; I admit that I did some fucked up shit anyway.

If I am scum though, which team am I?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#2344
I'm back!
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 18 2012 14:45 GMT
#2345
If I am supposedly is a demon why would Palmar go fuck on me day 1?

He even thought of lynching me


On January 06 2012 00:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:06 syllogism wrote:
On January 06 2012 00:00 Palmar wrote:
After Bluelight's latest list of only town/null reads and his wishy-washy-ness with accusing people I might actually just off him. I was kinda leaning maybe noob-town on him, but I don't like his last few posts.


Do you think he would have made that long list of reads as scum? While his observations may be wrong, making the list requires reading the thread relatively carefully. It's possible, but I interpreted that as a slightly leaning town move from. I don't really like his "If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move" post though as that sounds like a bit forced.


Reading the thread "carefully" has become much easier since the filter button. What strikes me as odd in it is that he managed to apparently read the filter of 17 people, and he didn't find one scum in them. he found 14 null tells, with 3 people in layabout and wiggles and of course blazinghand who seem to be his strongest townread.

If his list actually had any content in it I would consider it a pro-town move, but really, when you break it down, all he said is he has a slight town read on wiggles and layabout, and an even slighter townread on a few others. It has no conclusions at all.

Now, I know this doesn't apply because of BL's low experience, but do you normally think that someone hopping into the thread, calling his main accuser town, and saying almost everyone else is a null-read is something a townie would do?

I'm starting to think we should lynch BL.

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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 18 2012 15:53 GMT
#2346
Fair enough. That should do to make you non-Demon, I guess.

I'll prepare my spreadsheet for the night actions
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 18 2012 15:59 GMT
#2347
I'm gonna sleep now guys! cya in the morn!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 18 2012 17:01 GMT
#2348
Alright, something feels off. Grackaroni and Tyrran filters here.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=198851

I hadn't bothered to read their filters until now. Please, those who have a case on them, enlighten me where is the scum on these filters beside the fact that they are incredibly small(Tyrran posts a low amount of very big posts as town on Steamship Liquidia, so I'd say he fits his meta).

In fact, there should be one VT between Dirkzor, layabout, Tyrran and Grackaroni.


Out of 8 VTowns, we have:
Confirmed
Erandorr, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 1
risk.nuke, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 2
Cwave, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2
Spaackle, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 3

Speculation/analysis
Zephirdd, because I know who I am; I challenge you to find a scum faction for me as well
Blazinghand, because of the CT claim and overall town behavior
Bluelightz, because of the Jackal lynch and Palmar attack


You then have the Demon Hunter:
Refallen

The Town Seer:
Syllogism; Because of his "I don't want to die" and this post. I had just asked a Seer to check on me, and he immediately posts "The situation will be reevaluated tomorrow". This makes me believe he was the Seer. Plus nobody claimed Seer.

The flipped Demon, Palmar
The flipped Angel, Jackal58

And finally, the Sage/Channeler/Angel trio:
Mr Wiggles - Sage or Channeler
RebirthOfLegend - Channeler or Angel
HarbingerOfDoom - Angel or Sage

To me, the later combo - MrW as Channeler, RoL as Angel and HoD as Sage - is much more likely than the first. Reasons were given already.

That leaves the following players to be the remaining two Demons and Angel:
layabout
Dirkzor
Grackaroni
Tyrran


Grackaroni is accepted as not-Demon already, because of CT and Sage checks. That means that these are the possible Demon teams:
layabout, Dirkzor
layabout, Tyrran
Dirkzor, Tyrran

I'm fairly sure that layabout is a Demon because of
a) Reactions to Blazinghand's posts about his codes
b) Urge on lynching the claimed Sage, the one Town that Demons fear the most
c) Twisted result check by the claimed Sage, when he wasn't a likely target for investigation or whatsoever
d) Early on the game, tries to discredit Mr Wiggles case on Palmar here
e) possible attempt to breadcrumb DH?


I'm having a hard time to identify who would be the third Demon and the third Angel(between Dirkzor, Tyrran and Grackaroni). The more I read into it, the more I lean with Tyrran as a Demon and Dirkzor/Grackaroni as the Angel, but it's hard to create connections between them.


Yes, this is a scenario based on assumptions that are not confirmed(ie. me, BH and BLightz being town), but I think it's fair to assume these are town.

I'd like to hear from Dirkzor and Tyrran their opinions on layabout. I'd also like to hear from Refallen, BH, Blightz, Dirkzor, Grackaroni and Tyrran about this scenario. Layabout, of course you are invited to give your opinions about it as well; maybe there IS a scenario that makes a whole lot more sense.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 18 2012 18:24 GMT
#2349
I haven't read Layabouts filter yet, so I can't make a final decision on him. As i wrote I've had a town read on him for the first period of the game but the way things turned out during last lynch might change my veiw.

While your overview is good, and I won't deny that it is highly probably, you do make a lot of assumptions. I'll just point out one that will make everything fold: What if Wiggles was vt?

Anyway, I have found Tyrran scummy for a while.

I've read most of your filter (again) Zephirrrrrrd ( ) and I must admit I see you acting the same way I am/would: Confused and frustrated because the reads you make are proved wrong. So maybe you aren't scum... =/
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#2350
Of all of the lynches so far, that was probably the worst-thought out, and the luckiest.

+ the LSB guide is out-dated:
Analysis
This is the most important part of the game. This is how you catch scum. It is incredibly difficult. However, with enough practice and a bit of work, you can do it too!

Logic
Logic is incredibly important. One of the biggest parts, yet the most underrated part, is well thought out plan. For example, this game


On a lighter note, dead angel! we got this.
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HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 18 2012 21:19 GMT
#2351
Rolling, for glory!

On January 18 2012 20:03 Refallen wrote:
Finally back from school.

Aw, jackal was the observer, guess I can't go for my true love anymore =(
I can still stalemate with the demons :o
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 18 2012 22:32 GMT
#2352
Huh, I just realized something. Bluelightz isn't clear at all. Just because Palmar "considered" lynching him, that doesn't make his post nothing but a standard buss over a post that could be considered a "big" scum tell(the completely null list).


myheadhurts

Refallen, please call your shot before the night post. Actually, not 'please'. You must call your shot before the night post.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 18 2012 23:11 GMT
#2353
I'm not stupid. I'm awake. I'm hitting layabout.

Tyrran and bluelights are remaining angel/scum I think.

(I was also really trying for true love win lolol... but I guess a town win is ok too)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
January 19 2012 00:53 GMT
#2354
In case this is it... I love you all, town players. rule out nothing. use logic. watch out for bussing and other wifom-producing scum things. There MIGHT be 2 angels but it's unlikely. I'm not sure if the new CT should claim unless we failed to kill a demon and need to mitigate demon voting power etc. good luck
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 19 2012 01:00 GMT
#2355
2 minutes! I just hope we were right on Layabout.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 19 2012 01:11 GMT
#2356
End of Night 4


The fourth night brought with it more unusual weather. A thick fog descended upon the area, and it was impossible for one to see mere meters away. The humid air was quite uncomfortable, but still, the survivors would agree that it was preferable to the trials of the nights before.

The remaining residents did their best to get whatever rest they could, as they knew that all the energy they could muster would be necessary to continue their quest the next day. A few snuck around in the shadows, but soon, everyone would fall into restless slumber.

The bright rays of the rising sun awoke all from their sleep, and again, they all gathered at the town square for yet another day. The morning sky was a pleasant blue, and many hoped that it would stay that way. A quick count of those present showed that only one had perished during the night. A stinking corpse mutilated by many cuts remained, smelling of burnt flesh. With less than half of the original survivors remaining, what would be the conclusion of this grisly tale?

layabout, the Demonic Concealer was killed Night 4!

It is now Day 5!

The Day 5 deadline is at January 21 2012 10:00 KST!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 19 2012 01:11 GMT
#2357
f5f5f5
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
January 19 2012 01:12 GMT
#2358
angels held their fire? or got twisted?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 19 2012 01:12 GMT
#2359
Fuck yeah.

Also, Dirkzor, not a demon.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 19 2012 01:12 GMT
#2360
##Vote: Tyrran
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