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On December 28 2011 18:50 syllogism wrote: Well at least one out of RoL and Chezinu is definitely mafia. I would like to hear from Chezinu first but the situation has been covered quite adequately above. Are you claiming alignment cop or something? How do you know one of us is definitely scum? | ||
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syllogism
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On December 28 2011 23:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Are you claiming alignment cop or something? How do you know one of us is definitely scum? Chezinu claimed RB on n1, so either he is lying and thus scum or he was RBed and then there is no good explanation for you to be alive unless there is a scum medic. I guess it's possible that GM didn't actually hit you or his shot doesn't go through if the target is town, but both scenarios require poor play on GMs part; he specifically said that his role is the same as LSB's, who heavily implied that his shot goes through regardless of the alignment of the target. | ||
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Why aren't you voting RebirthOfLeGenD already? Even L is bussing him. | ||
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If one of Syllogism / L are mafia then the other is town. Chezinu was giving me a very town feeling, but hasn't posted in a long time. What are your thoughts on how everyone was killed this night, or even last night? BumatLarge if your a vig why were you so sure that LSB was lieing and voted against him? Do you think Kita is mafia? Prplhz you are the one person who is cleared town to me. After reading the problems with the first night we both came up with the same logic. That VE vig shot GM and that GM was roleblocked from killing someone. And then that the other 2 were Mafia KP. Since then, However BC shooting GM has since changed things. RoL you claim vig and that you shot Bloody Cobbler this is interesting. You also voted for Chezinu the first night. Was there a reason you didn't hop on the LSB bandwagon? And you disagreed with prplhz's theory about how night one went down. I find this interesting as well. Kitaman you are actually my one fairly good read on being scum. Just because of how you've played this game. You went after a lurker (myself) which is understandable, but after it not working (me not posting because I was just sick and busy with other things honestly) you still kept on me and didn't really go scum hunting elsewhere. You also were against some of foolishness' reasoning and have just had very scummy play overall. Your my for sure read on who is mafia and who'd I'd prefer to lynch tonight. Sylogism Bugs asked what you thought at one point during the game. You were negative towards Bumatlarge. And you and L are arguing quite a bit. I'm really not sure on you honestly. Null read. L You've had good logic. You voted for Palmar day one which I find weird. I have a null read on you as well. Other then thinking that either BOTH you and sylogism are town or 1 is town 1 is mafia I really don't have a great read. I think there is very likely no chance your both mafia. So thats where I'm at right now. Rebirth of Legend, were you hit and just lied about it earlier? | ||
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You better have a compelling argument for pushing kitaman27 today instead of RebirthOfLeGenD whom multiple people, townies according to your very own reads, already find very suspicious. Your "Things I'm pretty sure of without going in to why too much" is not a case at all, it's just arbitrary opinions that may or may not be true. We need to consolidate today. You either make a case for why RebirthOfLeGenD is innocent and make a case for why kitaman27 is scum, you vote RebirthOfLeGenD, or you are pushing scum agenda by being overly obstructive. | ||
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Look at how apathetic RebirthOfLeGenD is right now in face of getting lynched at lylo. He doesn't care at all because he's scum and because he's getting bussed. If you were townie and you were getting lynched and that lynch would cost town the game, wouldn't you fight a lot harder than this? He's just posting one liners and not caring about anything at all, because he is getting bussed. L's first real contribution in this game is a case on RebirthOfLeGenD full of stuff that he could just as easily have pointed out yesterday. Pretty much it doesn't matter if you think that kitaman27 is scum right now because we're lynching RebirthOfLeGenD and we need everybody to help out. Unless you are sure that RebirthOfLeGenD is town then you are going to vote him. Your entire case for RebirthOfLeGenD being town is "his story is just so weird", is that better than the arguments that L and I put forth? Totally unrelated, it's insane that Foolishness identified both wherebugsgo and L as scum on day1. | ||
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This is purely many little things, some bigger things and everything I find even remotely fishy about "Kitaman27" Right off the bat early on in the game he noticed the vote count was off. And he had already voted something. For me when I'm town I never look at the voting count amount until much later. He was curious about both "chaoser and gm" for quite a big part of the early game. Pretty much his only post besides worrying about a lurker (Sheth, myself). He also "Expects more" from Foolishness, BC and GM" So, so far he has been curious or expected more from 4 confirmed townies and myself who is a townie as well. He then proceeds to say that it is tough to make a serious case against someone who only has two posts containing information he then says though that it is "not half-hearted". This is a blatant contradiction, its very hard to tell anything from just two posts and I find it weird that he wants to push someone based off of two posts. He then uses the words "would like to see him dead" When the Vigilante showdown AKA "LSB vs GM two vigilantes of different names" occurred his solution was terrible from a town point of view. He wanted them to have one shoot the other one and for the other one to shoot someone who "appears townie". This was I believe the first time I really looked at Kita as Scum . This seems to me silly, because it ends up killing everyone, not really helping us by giving us information and in the end is just a bad idea. We'd like our vigilantes to stay alive as at that point we really didn't know how many we had. I'm sure you can figure out the other reasons this was a bad idea. He then is not suspicious of RoL, but says that he "hopes to hear from RoL". This doesn't seem at all negative and if RoL is mafia as well as Kita it points to Kita reminding RoL to post here more. He then says that he wouldn't mind putting 7-8 votes on a lurker (Sheth, myself), but then really never tries to do that at all. He almost instantly changes his thought process and goes after someone else. Honestly I think it would have been smart to try and put more votes on me. I wouldn't have answered, but if I was just scumlurking then it would have pressured me out into at least saying something. He is then very curious about GM and his role and if he is roleblocked. I think it VERY likely that GM was in fact roleblocked. He was the obvious best choice for mafia to role block hands down. Kitaman27 then proceeds to ask "Would your bullet be refunded?" He is very curious about this townies power and what would happen if he was roleblocked. Just an interesting point for sure. He then proceeds to say in his big list that he is "leaning town on bugs" and that his main lynch candidate is on Prplhz. I don't know why he stopped pressuring the lurker (myself) or why he instantly went onto Prplhz here. I was very happy with what I'd seen from prplhz at this point. Syllogism was as well, pointing out that "prplhz has appeared very protown". Bugs then proceeded to try and start suspicion against Prplhz by asking if he was just bad in general or only as scum. Something I also thought was out of place. This didn't go anywhere and then he Bugs proceeds to switch his case onto BC when no one else agrees with voting out Prplhz. Kitaman27 has never really caused ANYONE major pressure. He hasn't had a passion of scum hunting. He has in the end done very nearly nothing for us. He should have at least kept up his pressure on the lurker (Myself) and been more passionate against Prplhz if he truly felt he was scummy. He then lists his ideal scumteam of -Foolishness, BC, Prplhz and L. 2 of which are confirmed town. Prplhz is just about confirmed town to me and then L. So he scum team is already been proven 2/4 wrong and almost 3/4 wrong. He also doesn't think I'm scum at all in these posts. Again going along with the theme of not really pressuring anyone, but merely putting some small spotlight onto these 4. After Prplhz reveals that he had killed WhereBugsGo Kita says sorry for accusing Prplhz. He was very against apologizing early and one of the reads early that we had was that in most cases here scum would be apologetic and simply try not to die by lynch or agravating someone by trigger or simply vig shot. As town is somewhat killing itself by shooting itself (vig shots). So at this point this post could be dangerous as well. Any, one or some of these posts taken separately wouldn't strike a chord. However all of them together ring in my ears. KitaMan27 is Scum | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
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On December 29 2011 03:59 prplhz wrote: Didn't you read the thread at all? Both L and I have already put up our arguments, syllogism agrees. Chezinu stopped posting at 1999 posts, and he hasn't posted or voted for 5 straight days. Look at how apathetic RebirthOfLeGenD is right now in face of getting lynched at lylo. He doesn't care at all because he's scum and because he's getting bussed. If you were townie and you were getting lynched and that lynch would cost town the game, wouldn't you fight a lot harder than this? He's just posting one liners and not caring about anything at all, because he is getting bussed. L's first real contribution in this game is a case on RebirthOfLeGenD full of stuff that he could just as easily have pointed out yesterday. Pretty much it doesn't matter if you think that kitaman27 is scum right now because we're lynching RebirthOfLeGenD and we need everybody to help out. Unless you are sure that RebirthOfLeGenD is town then you are going to vote him. Your entire case for RebirthOfLeGenD being town is "his story is just so weird", is that better than the arguments that L and I put forth? Totally unrelated, it's insane that Foolishness identified both wherebugsgo and L as scum on day1. Yes I read the thread prplhz. I've read your argument against RoL. L and syllogism just went onto your bus and accepted him quietly. Chezinu hasn't posted yes, I see that. Thanks for posting some more against RoL though, thats what I was looking for. I agree that RoL should definetly be fighting much harder to not be killed here. As this is pretty much our last thought. I agree, with your logic on this and I'm happy to be voting RoL here. I'll put me vote for him right here as well. Foolishness did have some very good calls, I'll give him that. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend | ||
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On December 29 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Things I'm pretty sure of without going in to why too much. I've just finished reading the entire thread so this is just based off of a clean full read. If one of Syllogism / L are mafia then the other is town. Chezinu was giving me a very town feeling, but hasn't posted in a long time. What are your thoughts on how everyone was killed this night, or even last night? BumatLarge if your a vig why were you so sure that LSB was lieing and voted against him? Do you think Kita is mafia? Prplhz you are the one person who is cleared town to me. After reading the problems with the first night we both came up with the same logic. That VE vig shot GM and that GM was roleblocked from killing someone. And then that the other 2 were Mafia KP. Since then, However BC shooting GM has since changed things. RoL you claim vig and that you shot Bloody Cobbler this is interesting. You also voted for Chezinu the first night. Was there a reason you didn't hop on the LSB bandwagon? And you disagreed with prplhz's theory about how night one went down. I find this interesting as well. Kitaman you are actually my one fairly good read on being scum. Just because of how you've played this game. You went after a lurker (myself) which is understandable, but after it not working (me not posting because I was just sick and busy with other things honestly) you still kept on me and didn't really go scum hunting elsewhere. You also were against some of foolishness' reasoning and have just had very scummy play overall. Your my for sure read on who is mafia and who'd I'd prefer to lynch tonight. Sylogism Bugs asked what you thought at one point during the game. You were negative towards Bumatlarge. And you and L are arguing quite a bit. I'm really not sure on you honestly. Null read. L You've had good logic. You voted for Palmar day one which I find weird. I have a null read on you as well. Other then thinking that either BOTH you and sylogism are town or 1 is town 1 is mafia I really don't have a great read. I think there is very likely no chance your both mafia. So thats where I'm at right now. Rebirth of Legend, were you hit and just lied about it earlier? I claimed vigilnate and that I killed BC, I can't be both a vig and a veteran. So sheth, what is your role? | ||
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