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On December 27 2011 15:30 Foolishness wrote:Hey RoL, got a big question for you: Show nested quote +On December 25 2011 08:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
We have 5 dead, two hits we can reasonably explain. Chaoser claimed killing Palmar who could be a traitor/third party according to the rules and Gmarshal killing himself by hitting me. So that leaves 3, VE, Jackal58, and SamuelLJackson (Curu/Sandroba).
You claimed that you did not take a hit last night. LSB confirmed that if he shoots a green both the green and him die. Thus you should be dead, as GM dying is accounted for now. But I am also curious why you would say what I highlighted in your post if you were town. Seems like you wrote that because you have extra information on some sort of night events happening.
LSB didn't hit me, Gmarshal did. They could feasibly have different roles, GM never said to the contrary.
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Foolishness
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Okay but they have the same exact text with the exception of the role name. Why would one of them have it so that both him and the green die (if he shoots a green) and the other have it so just he dies (if he shoots a green)?
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Where did they post and compare exact role PMs? Last time I checked that's not allowed. Either way, I can only explain it as I did. I didn't take a hit and if I were scum we wouldn't of been able to change medic protection from whoever to me by the time GM posted who he was going to kill.
You could pretend mafia RBed GM and killed him, but that would leave quite a few hits unexplained. Do you believe BC's claim, or what flaws do you see with my analysis of him? What else makes you think I am scum?
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Don't talk to Foolishness, he's scum.
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Alright, it's 5 am and this thread sucks so I figured I'd try to jumpstart it before sleeping. I have jury duty today; luckily, it's night and not day so it doesn't matter too much.
I suppose people will excuse themselves for the inactivity yesterday and the day before because of Christmas and stuff. Well, we wasted a lot of time, but one good thing happened: BC wasn't lynched, and that's great since I don't actually believe he's scum.
We need information, and we need discussion. We have next to nothing following the events of n1. No one commented on my case on Foolishness. No one did anything except bandwagon BC, really. Five/six of you can't all be scum. Surely there are probably multiple scum on the BC wagon, but we are actually not in a great position to find out who, since a bunch of the votes were literally identical. And by identical, I mean terrible.
We are also not in a position to lynch all of them in the attempt to simply wipe out scum, in hopes that all of them were on the BC wagon. 10v4 going into n2 with one scum flipped and he probably wasn't even connected to the mafia team. Not a great position for us.
I will post specific thoughts right before deadline in case I get shot. We should perhaps use this time for discussion, since we've lacked it so far, but I'm wary because it can easily affect night actions as well. Thus, since I'll be done with jury duty in time, I'll just seed all my thoughts on scum into the thread right before deadline.
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@Foolishness What do you think about this whole BloodyC0bbler thing?
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Foolishness
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The other day I thought that BC was red, but his claim makes a lot of sense.
Why RoL is still alive is the biggest problem at the moment. If GM breadcrumbed his real target (which most people seem to think he didn't) I haven't been able to figure out the real target.
Pretend that you are RoL and you are mafia. You got shot last night but you survived due to whatever reason (medic, veteran, etc). What would you say in the thread? You are highly suspicious cause you were inactive day 1, so claiming that you took a hit isn't going to do anything for you since it will just make the town lynch you anyways. But if you claim that nothing happened to you during the night, suddenly you might be saved since everyone is now distracted with what really happened during the night. And perhaps GM's suspicions of you were just a farce to hide his real shot.
We should still kill bugs at some point though.
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Foolishness, what do you think of Bum?
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On December 28 2011 06:13 Foolishness wrote:
The other day I thought that BC was red, but his claim makes a lot of sense.
Why RoL is still alive is the biggest problem at the moment. If GM breadcrumbed his real target (which most people seem to think he didn't) I haven't been able to figure out the real target.
Pretend that you are RoL and you are mafia. You got shot last night but you survived due to whatever reason (medic, veteran, etc). What would you say in the thread? You are highly suspicious cause you were inactive day 1, so claiming that you took a hit isn't going to do anything for you since it will just make the town lynch you anyways. But if you claim that nothing happened to you during the night, suddenly you might be saved since everyone is now distracted with what really happened during the night. And perhaps GM's suspicions of you were just a farce to hide his real shot.
We should still kill bugs at some point though.
I guess we will know tomorrow, won't we?
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@Foolishness
Why did you not change your vote to BloodyC0bbler then? You didn't push wherebugsgo very hard either, it was one post that might have attracted attention, but nobody really picked up the ball from there. Are you telling me that you thought that your vote was more well placed on wherebugsgo than on BloodyC0bbler, who had a lot more votes and who you also thought was scum? If you still think we should lynch wherebugsgo, then why didn't you push him harder yesterday? What did you do yesterday?
Why does his claim making sense make him blue instead of red? He claimed 48 hours into the day, he absolutely knew that there would be no counter claims. So far, we have had three vigilantes claim, BloodyC0bbler should absolutely know that with this many vigilantes, any vigilante most likely does not have two shots and so they have no reasons not to tell town about their shots as soon as possible. Why does this claim make him blue instead of red? Considering this and how close he was to getting lynched yesterday, a claim like that doesn't seem very risky for a scum at all.
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Hey wherebugsgo are you around?
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On December 28 2011 10:04 prplhz wrote:
@Foolishness
Why did you not change your vote to BloodyC0bbler then? You didn't push wherebugsgo very hard either, it was one post that might have attracted attention, but nobody really picked up the ball from there. Are you telling me that you thought that your vote was more well placed on wherebugsgo than on BloodyC0bbler, who had a lot more votes and who you also thought was scum? If you still think we should lynch wherebugsgo, then why didn't you push him harder yesterday? What did you do yesterday?
Why does his claim making sense make him blue instead of red? He claimed 48 hours into the day, he absolutely knew that there would be no counter claims. So far, we have had three vigilantes claim, BloodyC0bbler should absolutely know that with this many vigilantes, any vigilante most likely does not have two shots and so they have no reasons not to tell town about their shots as soon as possible. Why does this claim make him blue instead of red? Considering this and how close he was to getting lynched yesterday, a claim like that doesn't seem very risky for a scum at all.
Wouldn't BC make 4 vigilantes?
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I'm around now, what's up?
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How do you feel about RebirthOfLeGenD?
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On December 28 2011 10:04 prplhz wrote:
@Foolishness
Why did you not change your vote to BloodyC0bbler then? You didn't push wherebugsgo very hard either, it was one post that might have attracted attention, but nobody really picked up the ball from there. Are you telling me that you thought that your vote was more well placed on wherebugsgo than on BloodyC0bbler, who had a lot more votes and who you also thought was scum? If you still think we should lynch wherebugsgo, then why didn't you push him harder yesterday? What did you do yesterday?
Why does his claim making sense make him blue instead of red? He claimed 48 hours into the day, he absolutely knew that there would be no counter claims. So far, we have had three vigilantes claim, BloodyC0bbler should absolutely know that with this many vigilantes, any vigilante most likely does not have two shots and so they have no reasons not to tell town about their shots as soon as possible. Why does this claim make him blue instead of red? Considering this and how close he was to getting lynched yesterday, a claim like that doesn't seem very risky for a scum at all.
Given the mass amount of talking about "breadcrumbing his shot" etc..... that was done and his shot offing himself it actually made more sense to hold back and see how people would try to spin it.
You can jump up and down and scream at me, but aside from trying to get my lynched you have done near nothing. Now, I know I have done fuck all this game aside from shoot GM, but both you and RoL have been jumping on my nuts like a fat kid on cake.
Why? You have my level of inactivity as your main factor and very few posts I have made that although may not seem the "typical bc" are no real reason to push as hard as you are. What is the real reason you want me to get lynched? There have been people far more active who have given far more to analyze yet you opted for someone who is obviously not active for various reasons. Were you hoping I wouldn't be around or that people would just agree and do it?
I made a claim late into a day as it gives more information in general to the thread as people instantly wanted to talk about why rol was still alive, who gm shot, etc....
instead you now know where it is and can see any excuses people were making to see where it wandered off to.
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feel better about him than I do about Foolishness or Chezinu!
Upon rereading I think RoL has been acting rather town-like. The GM business doesn't make sense unless GM was RBed. We don't know that for sure unless Chezinu is lying or trolling. This is the problem atm.
So, we lynch one of Foolishness/Chezinu tomorrow IMO. I guess if there's a convincing argument for RoL being scum I'd be willing to lynch him too. Chezinu very well could be lying/trolling. He did nothing today, though he did more day 1. His activity dropped off like a scum's would. At first I didn't believe he was lying. Now I'm more willing to entertain that idea.
also my bad, I'm playing LoL :p I got back from jury duty and I feel lazy.
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What are your thoughts on Bum?
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dunno haven't really paid attention to him much yet. My notes on him = "buddying to Chezinu, should watch out for later."
But that was day 1.
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Well, I'm gonna claim, don't see much reason not too.
Surprise, I'm a vig as well. I'm a good manner vig, so if I could prove to Host that someone is being mean, I could shoot them. I assumed mafia would know about my role, so I played a little wacky to make people mad.
People who got mad:
Palmar
Thats about it. And he was traitor. I'm fairly certain mafia is playing around triggers, including mine. L has been a huge offender of this, picking up on what I was hinting at and not chancing that I was a defensive or investigative role. What if I was a DT who could check people who discuss set-ups, or a medic who can protect people who quote me 3 times or something. Because to mafia, I'm only ever going to be a vig. There is no other blue roles except vigs.
Also, I could probably shoot WBG, so he's either a super ballsy scum, or an innocent townie. I'm leaning latter. Kinda funny how the best way to use my role against passive scum is to never use it. But I'm proud of how I played it. Would secretly ally with chezinu again. I really have no idea what chezinu's alignment is, despite my interactions.
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Almost forgot, the final test of tripping wires.
herp derp.
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EPT
