Responsibility Mafia! - Page 3

On December 29 2011 09:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well then here's my proof. Its honestly not as bullet proof as I originally thought, but after thinking about it all day today I'm still quite happy with it.

Our first night we have 5 deaths. We all know Chaoser killed Palmar. 4 left. Then its Gmarshal, VisceraEyes, Jackal and Samuel. Here its gotten tricky and we've had lots of confusion figuring this out. I'm not going to go into who caused a lot of the confusion but I think scum tried to take advantage of a lucky situation and I think no one figured out quite what did happen here. I'd like to suggest my opinion on it which I feel very confident in.

4 people are left unaccounted for. GM, VE, Jackal and Sam. Now BC claimed he shot GM and was proven correct. That leaves 3 unaccounted for. Sam + Jackal I can see as mafia doing 2 kp. I feel like in a small group like this mafia while still 4 having any more then 2 kp would be pretty insane honestly. This is the point pretty much my whole theory relies on. What about VE then? I think he shot GM as well and simply had to die based on his type of Vig shot. I think this was hinted at quite a bit as well when VE told me if I didn't vote something bad would happen to me at night, I think he simply chose to use this ability on GM. Heres the logic that hasn't been explained yet I think.

He Thought GM was lieing, because he had LSB's exact job. He was that suicide vig and he was named Overtly Righteous Vigilante or whatever it was called. So because of this it made sense for him to use his power on GM. This caused the confusion here and led to what I believe to have happened. This idea and some others simply lead to the fact mafia have 2kp. This is the point I'm trying to prove from this and what I think you should take out of it.

Next we get into the 6 who died this last night. GGC, BC, Chaoser, Wiggles, Foolishness, WBG. This has been tricky to pin down as well. If we believe Mafia had 2 kp, I think its somewhat obvious they'd kill Chaoser a confirmed blue and Foolishness who was really breathing down WBG's back, this isn't too important I'm just picking two for mafia to have called. This leaves 4 kills uncalled for. Prplhz killed WBG, I think thats obvious. So now were at 3 kills left over. Theres no real way to tell for sure how they killed each other but I think its easy to go about it logically.

This leaves BC, GGC, and Wiggles. I don't see a really logical way for them to have town killed each other except for with help. The chances that GGC killed BC who killed Wiggles who killed GGC is pretty ridiculously small. I think the best and obvious chance is that one of those 3 was killed by outside influence. This was when RoL claimed that he shot BC. I find this much more believable then any other alternative. GGC and Wiggles perhaps one targeted the other with a suicide vig or perhaps did something else that resulted in them being killed (perhaps both targeting BC).

So, with mafia kp at 2, and these 3 left with no one claiming I think it only makes sense that someone killed one of the 3 outside of those 3, and if no one is countering RoL's claim I believe him and I think its proof enough that hes innocent. This is what my "proof" boils down to, and I wish it was more concrete, but I believed it was true and still do.

On December 29 2011 09:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well then here's my proof. Its honestly not as bullet proof as I originally thought, but after thinking about it all day today I'm still quite happy with it.

Our first night we have 5 deaths. We all know Chaoser killed Palmar. 4 left. Then its Gmarshal, VisceraEyes, Jackal and Samuel. Here its gotten tricky and we've had lots of confusion figuring this out. I'm not going to go into who caused a lot of the confusion but I think scum tried to take advantage of a lucky situation and I think no one figured out quite what did happen here. I'd like to suggest my opinion on it which I feel very confident in.

4 people are left unaccounted for. GM, VE, Jackal and Sam. Now BC claimed he shot GM and was proven correct. That leaves 3 unaccounted for. Sam + Jackal I can see as mafia doing 2 kp. I feel like in a small group like this mafia while still 4 having any more then 2 kp would be pretty insane honestly. This is the point pretty much my whole theory relies on. What about VE then? I think he shot GM as well and simply had to die based on his type of Vig shot. I think this was hinted at quite a bit as well when VE told me if I didn't vote something bad would happen to me at night, I think he simply chose to use this ability on GM. Heres the logic that hasn't been explained yet I think.

He Thought GM was lieing, because he had LSB's exact job. He was that suicide vig and he was named Overtly Righteous Vigilante or whatever it was called. So because of this it made sense for him to use his power on GM. This caused the confusion here and led to what I believe to have happened. This idea and some others simply lead to the fact mafia have 2kp. This is the point I'm trying to prove from this and what I think you should take out of it.

Next we get into the 6 who died this last night. GGC, BC, Chaoser, Wiggles, Foolishness, WBG. This has been tricky to pin down as well. If we believe Mafia had 2 kp, I think its somewhat obvious they'd kill Chaoser a confirmed blue and Foolishness who was really breathing down WBG's back, this isn't too important I'm just picking two for mafia to have called. This leaves 4 kills uncalled for. Prplhz killed WBG, I think thats obvious. So now were at 3 kills left over. Theres no real way to tell for sure how they killed each other but I think its easy to go about it logically.

This leaves BC, GGC, and Wiggles. I don't see a really logical way for them to have town killed each other except for with help. The chances that GGC killed BC who killed Wiggles who killed GGC is pretty ridiculously small. I think the best and obvious chance is that one of those 3 was killed by outside influence. This was when RoL claimed that he shot BC. I find this much more believable then any other alternative. GGC and Wiggles perhaps one targeted the other with a suicide vig or perhaps did something else that resulted in them being killed (perhaps both targeting BC).

So, with mafia kp at 2, and these 3 left with no one claiming I think it only makes sense that someone killed one of the 3 outside of those 3, and if no one is countering RoL's claim I believe him and I think its proof enough that hes innocent. This is what my "proof" boils down to, and I wish it was more concrete, but I believed it was true and still do.