|
On December 20 2011 18:33 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:14 bumatlarge wrote:
Chez, you have to be careful, if Ver invited you, you can bet he specifically laid out traps for particular styles of play. We need think outside the box in order to counter his methods. Serious.
I'm accusing the hydra of provoking chez. There is no reason to ask such a stupid question. Stop asking stupid questions. What does this even mean? The theme is to punish bad play, not to punish weird play and how do we "think outside the box to counter his methods"? Not making sense is bad play, will you take responsibility?
I believe you are wrong. Ver is not one to try and eliminate bad play... That is something Ace strives to do.. Ver is much different. He can't stand weird play. Your know why? He is a psychotic behavioral analysis.. a mad genius at that! One thing that keeps him analyzing in vicious circles is weird play. When he can't read someone... .... ... I can't say.. . but trust me! He is here to rig the game to kill the crazies and the weirdos and outcasts! He wants control! He wants to be able to turn us into "upperclass" citizen who speak eloquently and civilly discuss our analysis! He doesn't want drama! What is mafia without drama?!!?1 NOT FUN!!! He would rather me in silence with a few quiet posts hidden in the shadows than for be the yell through the streets my mad thoughts...
Well, the box is broken and so is everything inside.. We are doom, DOOMED!!
|
On December 20 2011 18:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
I don't understand why Chezinu would come in and basically claim Traitor. The move makes no sense as a Townie gamble since you destroy your own credibility and put yourself at risk of being lynched or vigged.
I know that he's Chezinu but I think he actually is the Traitor. Kind of like how he basically claimed SK day 1 in LSB's Merc Mini Mafia. Either way the onus is on him to either post real content or face the lynch.
I'm not too familiar with bum's play since every game I've been in with him we've been scum together so I ignore his posts but does he have a penchant for useless posting? I vaguely remember him getting lynched as Town in Personality for posting like crap.
muhahaha, guess what?
I'm not the traitor.. I was phishing. and I caughts some mafias.. Seems like some people didn't click the smiley face!
|
Don't you understand the mafia know all of the blue roles.. What better plan that sacrifice a mafia member to clear the mines and traps! One man willing to give his life for his family. He triggered every single mechanism.. he is a hero at large!
|
Phishing for what? What possible use could you claiming Traitor do? You breadcrumbed everything that was in the OP that is already public knowledge. The only real use is to get Mafia to blow their guess but is that really worth the obvious detrimental state doing so would leave both the thread and yourself if you were Town?
|
On December 20 2011 18:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
I don't understand why Chezinu would come in and basically claim Traitor. The move makes no sense as a Townie gamble since you destroy your own credibility and put yourself at risk of being lynched or vigged.
I know that he's Chezinu but I think he actually is the Traitor. Kind of like how he basically claimed SK day 1 in LSB's Merc Mini Mafia. Either way the onus is on him to either post real content or face the lynch.
I'm not too familiar with bum's play since every game I've been in with him we've been scum together so I ignore his posts but does he have a penchant for useless posting? I vaguely remember him getting lynched as Town in Personality for posting like crap.
Is this Curu? Tag your posts. I've a hard time believing that you actually think chezinu couldn't do that regardless of his alignment. Oh no Chezinu may destroy his credibility!!
|
On December 20 2011 18:56 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Phishing for what? What possible use could you claiming Traitor do? You breadcrumbed everything that was in the OP that is already public knowledge. The only real use is to get Mafia to blow their guess but is that really worth the obvious detrimental state doing so would leave both the thread and yourself if you were Town?
To answer YES! A day comes and goes. All will be forgotten but they guess will go away!
|
On December 20 2011 18:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 18:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
PALM-AIR.
It's day 1, what else would you like him to currently say? There's plenty of things that can be prodded already in the thread.
Like what, exactly? Also, please don't post one liners. They inflate the thread size and make it tedious to read through content later.
RE: RNG
RNG doesn't force people to make a move one way or another and provides less information regarding people's inclinations than having someone pick a metric for a day 1 play to be made. The "shoot the inactive" metric was the standard when games were substantially larger, people talked less, and the metric itself was generally not held onto, just used as a prod to get people talking. As far as I'm concerned, RNG just cedes the first day's information content unless someone with a particularly interesting role gets selected.
Please tell me how a random target provides more information than one who we can pick? It seems like by definition that RNG eliminates at least one layer of information: the choice. And there's no real benefit to the tradeoff in terms of preventing someone from hiding their kill attempt: If someone wants to get someone in particular put under the gun, they can fake a RNG call to make them the presumed target.
If there's anything pro-town about the RNG plan its that it removes any fear to assigning a presumption of lynch to start discussion off. I don't see why there isn't a better metric to use than 'none' for that purpose. And even then, it doesn't seem like the attempt actually fostered the discussion you're saying it would, but maybe that's because the current RNG specified target hasn't been around in the thread. Either way, it seems like an empty placeholder topic. The previous placeholder topic, inactivity, served a practical purpose. I fail to see what reliable benefit comes from this one.
So, the obvious question becomes which metric SHOULD we use. This is the question that RNG ends up proposing because it runs on the assumption that a) A lynch is better than no-lynch (I agree, in general) and b) that discussion surrounding the RNG could lead to a better target. I agree with a), but think that b) implies that we focus ourselves on determining a characteristic which outperforms RNG. This is why I think the plan is stupid; because IT ISN'T ONE. I'm super exhausted, but I'll think up some criteria for a day 1 lynch tomorrow.
RE: The hydra
I have no idea what/who this is, but I think I happened across it twice reading the thread. Is this someone's nickname? I haven't kept up with the last few (months of) games, so hook a brother up.
RE: Me
Sleep time. Peace!
RE: Post formatting
This is a very handy format and will make it easier to zip through pages to find discussions on a certain topic. Feel free to use it. Not sure how well it'll work when quoted, though.
|
Yes it is.
Chezinu played just fine as Town in Personality, enough to make him a night 1 shot. IIRC he was playing fine in Closed Casket as Town as well.
The one game I remember him nonstop trolling and posting nothing but nonsense was LSB's game where he was 3rd party SK and claimed it day 1. Yeah it's early in day 1 and most people haven't even posted yet which is why I said if this is just some random nonsensical idea from him as Town then the onus is on him to start actually playing the game.
|
is this sandroba or curu?
|
All Curu. I guess we'll start signing posts.
/Curu
|
On December 20 2011 19:04 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Yes it is.
Chezinu played just fine as Town in Personality, enough to make him a night 1 shot. IIRC he was playing fine in Closed Casket as Town as well.
The one game I remember him nonstop trolling and posting nothing but nonsense was LSB's game where he was 3rd party SK and claimed it day 1. Yeah it's early in day 1 and most people haven't even posted yet which is why I said if this is just some random nonsensical idea from him as Town then the onus is on him to start actually playing the game.
Listen Jack,
Town doesn't know the roles. Mafia does. What does this mean? If you have a crazy role to play, the mafia knows this. The town doesn't. However! There are some black roles out there and quite a few.. them mafia don't know about them except for that traitor other there. Here we are day 1 and it is so dark you might as well call it night and its going to be a long night for many of us are going to die.
It bound to come up. Role claiming. As much as I would love to claim a bank, I'm not. If people claim blue the mafia can spot lying townies. or lying blues claiming to be other blues.. oh wait.. thats a great idea! How about I act like a blue role claiming to be a different blue role to make the mafia think I'm a green or black claiming blue? yeah thats good. Ok guys. I got the nazi role.. if your grammar is so bad, I cna kills yous! But watch out, if you correct someone's grammar in the thread. There may be a role that is hunting them grammar nazis.. Ver is trying to turn us into professionals. Its his secret plan. so type dull proper structured formal long writings guys! oh and don't forget to have fun adhering to these rules to avoid certain deaths.. but don't forget you still have to deal with the lynches.
|
That makes this significantly less scummy...
And yes, please sign your posts. I'm not sure I understand Chez's traitor claim (and to be fair he did include that picture linked in his smiley, although I have no idea what that's supposed to mean) but I don't think it says much about his alignment at the moment.
@VisceraEyes, do you think policy lynching Chezinu is the way forward this game? If so, why?
|
Confirmed.
Policy lynch on Chezinu is dumb idea. He grows on you. Give it time to get used to him.
Just woke up. I'll catch up if there's anything to catch up too at work.
Player list reminds me of my first game here!
|
Checking in. Going to sleep right now and will post after I wake up. Hopefully by then you one of you guys will have a brilliant idea and the discussion can move on to something productive. This is a good roster so no one is safe from day 1 lynch due to being "good". Beware, I'm coming for you.
/sandroba
|
Japan10647 Posts
alright, ima a bit drunkl and tired but im tfoo dam exited to start this game so im posing thjs from my phone before i go to sleep
i want too hear from veryone about lchezinu, prplhz and dumatlarge. mostly the last two bc they obviously started out reallyyy badly with that random vote trash...let's RNG by picking the one player who is a hydra! cause thats definitely random right...
also id really appreciate it if someone van tell me who L is and how he plays. i heard hes good but i love meta so someone pile it on! lsb too i played withhim in zones game but he got ai k or something and didnt do anything. how sad.
other than that i think i know almost everyone here? i heard chez is wack and he has proven it already! yippy. i honestly laughed like 5 time web i tried reading his last post an nlne of it made aense to me roclll
it was like looking into the mind of a loony or something hahaha.so trippay. loony or scum idk yet but jes funny as fuck
yea so it's like 4 am ima pass put now before i wake up and my head explodes maybe you euros can discuss while i do the sleepy?
pc all and have a good night
|
This post is more funny if you assume WBG has a thick Indian accent.
|
United States22154 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 20 2011 18:59 L wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 20 2011 18:35 Palmar wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 20 2011 18:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
RE: The hydra
I have no idea what/who this is, but I think I happened across it twice reading the thread. Is this someone's nickname? I haven't kept up with the last few (months of) games, so hook a brother up.
[/QUOTE]
A hydra is an account shared by two players, in this case SamuelLJackson shared by Curu and Sandroba. They are, of course the ideal target for a day one lynch! As they have the issue of being extremely difficult to read, because of the two heads.
##Vote: SamuelLJackson
Also, as much as I love Chezinu, is anyone up for either policy lynching him or teaching me how the hell you get a grasp on his alignment? I enjoy his insanity, but its hardly conducive to figuring out his alignment.
|
United States22154 Posts
quote fail.
Lets try again
On December 20 2011 18:59 L wrote:
RE: The hydra
I have no idea what/who this is, but I think I happened across it twice reading the thread. Is this someone's nickname? I haven't kept up with the last few (months of) games, so hook a brother up.
A hydra is an account shared by two players, in this case SamuelLJackson shared by Curu and Sandroba. They are, of course the ideal target for a day one lynch! As they have the issue of being extremely difficult to read, because of the two heads.
##Vote: SamuelLJackson
Also, as much as I love Chezinu, is anyone up for either policy lynching him or teaching me how the hell you get a grasp on his alignment? I enjoy his insanity, but its hardly conducive to figuring out his alignment.
|
That's really stupid, how does that make him harder to read, especially if they tag their posts as instructed. Not like that is a good reason for lynching someone even if that was the case. GM do you think it's harder to read chezinu or the hydra? If the answer is chezinu, why are you voting to lynch the hydra
|
On December 20 2011 21:39 GMarshal wrote:quote fail. Lets try again Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 18:59 L wrote:
RE: The hydra
I have no idea what/who this is, but I think I happened across it twice reading the thread. Is this someone's nickname? I haven't kept up with the last few (months of) games, so hook a brother up.
A hydra is an account shared by two players, in this case SamuelLJackson shared by Curu and Sandroba. They are, of course the ideal target for a day one lynch! As they have the issue of being extremely difficult to read, because of the two heads. ##Vote: SamuelLJackson Also, as much as I love Chezinu, is anyone up for either policy lynching him or teaching me how the hell you get a grasp on his alignment? I enjoy his insanity, but its hardly conducive to figuring out his alignment.
Just pretend you're reading Dr. Seuss on acid when you read Chez's posts. They won't make anymore sense but they become much more entertaining.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
