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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 20 2011 06:02 GMT
#181
@chaoser Blatantly bating? I am not impressed. My experience tells me that scum are more likely to do that than town.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 20 2011 06:04 GMT
#182
On December 20 2011 14:54 prplhz wrote:
Hey look, I RNG'd VisceraEyes!

##Vote VisceraEyes

@bumatlarge

I have a hard time making sense of this post. First, I think it is badly worded. Next, what the hell are "responsibility points"? Why did you get some for proposing RNG while VisceraEyes got some for saying that he doesn't understand the point of RNG? Why are you blindly setup speculating about a Captain Obvious role, and what would he have to do with these responsibility points? What are responsibility points used for?

How much is "a tiny bit" compared to "very little"?

I also don't get this post. What did you trigger? Is there ever any point in being too anything? Are you Captain Tautology?

How did you try to start discussion?


I made up responsibility points. It's how far you go in specifically doing what Ver tells you is a bad idea. I figure "Making bad suggestions" earns me responsibility. Some mechanic might punish me later for it, but because I'm a real man, punishment is happiness. Asking a question, or taking a noob stance gives VE Responsibilty, albeit a different kind. I don't think it's necessarily bad to do, just something to note. And I guess making jokes earns me responsibility points as well now.

Jesus, I just made up the concept. I use the word arbitrary for a reason.

I'm referring to the mechanics of the game. I figure if you do something Ver considers "poor town play" or what not, you may trigger some mechanic or a role.

I didn't try, I did.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
December 20 2011 06:05 GMT
#183
I love you bumatlarge...May I join your family? You seem to know your way around this game as if you know what is going on.. Well, you have the men in black at your service. All you have to do is name him. [image loading]
lol, clueless in The Prism!
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 20 2011 06:09 GMT
#184
Well Chezinu, I know only one thing, and my knowledge stems from that. Death is lighter then a feather, and duty heavier then a mountain. I would appreciate if you figure out what drug prphlz is on.

On December 20 2011 15:02 prplhz wrote:
@chaoser Blatantly bating? I am not impressed. My experience tells me that scum are more likely to do that than town.


I think you need to calm down bro. We are an hour into the game. If I were to guess your role, it would have the word Paranoid in it. Another Responsibilty point for bumatlarge! Going places so you don't have to.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 20 2011 06:30 GMT
#185
Alright, straight off the bat people are saying that we need good posts.

No shit.

Not only is the concept of the game surrounding the idea that poor play will be punished, but there's also the notion that we've got relatively few players. in the game. 5 to 15 or so. This means that best case scenario, we can win day 5 through lynches alone, but that's a rather long timeframe to close out a game. So poor play seems to be some form of game accelerant, and the 'poorer' the play, the less in our favor it seems to be.

So! What do we do? Post with content and condense your points. Keep your short posts to yourself and clump them up to make substantive comments. I'd say that posts between 6 and 15 lines are large enough to be substantive, but short enough to be read. But that shit is obvious. There's a bigger question here, however, which is what we're going to do with the first vote.

RNG is probably the worst possible idea; gives us next to zero information regarding how people argue and its practically an excuse for people to not post anything because there's no element of responsibility attached to it. Either way, we're going to want ideas down on the table asap. And not like dicks, either. Cut it out bum/prplhz.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
December 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#186
Chezinu I wanna ask you something.

How would you feel about lynching the Traitor day 1?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
December 20 2011 07:04 GMT
#187
On December 20 2011 15:31 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Chezinu I wanna ask you something.

How would you feel about lynching the Traitor day 1?

What do I feel? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 20 2011 07:14 GMT
#188
Chez, you have to be careful, if Ver invited you, you can bet he specifically laid out traps for particular styles of play. We need think outside the box in order to counter his methods. Serious.

I'm accusing the hydra of provoking chez. There is no reason to ask such a stupid question. Stop asking stupid questions.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 20 2011 07:47 GMT
#189
/confirming my role however I will not be posting until I sober the F up. Just got home from a staff party and can barely organize coherent thought. Don't even know how long this took to write without errors.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 20 2011 08:30 GMT
#190
This became terrible fast.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 20 2011 09:11 GMT
#191
On December 20 2011 15:30 L wrote:
Alright, straight off the bat people are saying that we need good posts.

No shit.

Not only is the concept of the game surrounding the idea that poor play will be punished, but there's also the notion that we've got relatively few players. in the game. 5 to 15 or so. This means that best case scenario, we can win day 5 through lynches alone, but that's a rather long timeframe to close out a game. So poor play seems to be some form of game accelerant, and the 'poorer' the play, the less in our favor it seems to be.

So! What do we do? Post with content and condense your points. Keep your short posts to yourself and clump them up to make substantive comments. I'd say that posts between 6 and 15 lines are large enough to be substantive, but short enough to be read. But that shit is obvious. There's a bigger question here, however, which is what we're going to do with the first vote.

RNG is probably the worst possible idea; gives us next to zero information regarding how people argue and its practically an excuse for people to not post anything because there's no element of responsibility attached to it. Either way, we're going to want ideas down on the table asap. And not like dicks, either. Cut it out bum/prplhz.

Meh, I assumed the RNG thing was just to randomly create something to work with D1 and wasn't serious. Every non retarded person knows very few people will actually RNG it and there is no way a mafia candidate would get support and lynched using RNG.

So now that I have wasting my time talking about that for some reason, how have you been L? Remember that time you spoiled the entire ending to death note for me?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 20 2011 09:13 GMT
#192
On December 20 2011 14:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I tried to get a straight answer from Ace about this in the game I played with him, but he was...not willing to play with me. What good does an RNG vote do for town? Honestly, if we all decide that's how we start off, no one is going to be dumb enough to try and derail the lynch if it happens to land on scum, so really, what information can possibly be gained? I'm serious, this has been bugging me ever since that game because he flipped town and I don't understand the motivation.


Why wouldn't you be serious? RNG is when there is an impasse in the first day votes, and when there is no "no-lynch" option. I'm sure just mentioning RNG first nets me some responsibilty points.

That's pretty good. From now on, all talk about someone provoking what Ver has warned us about has an arbitrary amount of "Responsibility". I have a tiny bit of Responsibility at the moment. I think for asking such a question VE, regardless of your true intentions, also nets you some responsibility. I think RoL has very responisibity at the moment, unless there is a Captain Obvious role.

The obvious is only obvious when someone points it out, if no one does than I guarantee we will see some people not realize ver hates retarded people and then realize this set up is likely devised to punish stupidity.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
December 20 2011 09:18 GMT
#193
On December 20 2011 18:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 14:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 20 2011 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I tried to get a straight answer from Ace about this in the game I played with him, but he was...not willing to play with me. What good does an RNG vote do for town? Honestly, if we all decide that's how we start off, no one is going to be dumb enough to try and derail the lynch if it happens to land on scum, so really, what information can possibly be gained? I'm serious, this has been bugging me ever since that game because he flipped town and I don't understand the motivation.


Why wouldn't you be serious? RNG is when there is an impasse in the first day votes, and when there is no "no-lynch" option. I'm sure just mentioning RNG first nets me some responsibilty points.

That's pretty good. From now on, all talk about someone provoking what Ver has warned us about has an arbitrary amount of "Responsibility". I have a tiny bit of Responsibility at the moment. I think for asking such a question VE, regardless of your true intentions, also nets you some responsibility. I think RoL has very responisibity at the moment, unless there is a Captain Obvious role.

The obvious is only obvious when someone points it out, if no one does than I guarantee we will see some people not realize ver hates retarded people and then realize this set up is likely devised to punish stupidity.

You don't even know how many times I've gotten PMs from Ver telling me to play sanely.. This game isn't about finding the mafia.. It's about rebelling against Ver. That's why I had pregame votes to become mayor. You have to fight system!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 20 2011 09:29 GMT
#194
Honestly, if this is the quality of posting we can expect all game, is anyone with me on a Chezinu lynch?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 20 2011 09:30 GMT
#195
The RNG thing is actually mad pro-town, because it both creates discussion, and if for some reason people actually random a target and start voting it'll inevitably create a great argument, which is probably going to be much more productive than the standard "deflect onto a lurker" play on day 1.

L's opening post is so shitty. It's like the recipe for a bad opening post.

step 1: Speculate about the setup

step 2: Discuss posting policy

step 3: Shoot down an easily shot down idea

step 4: Tell people to behave.

The best part, there's actually nothing in it that will in any way help move the game forward. I'm not familiar with L's play, and maybe he isn't aware that everyone in this game is kinda good-ish maybe.
Computer says mafia
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 20 2011 09:33 GMT
#196
PALM-AIR.
It's day 1, what else would you like him to currently say?
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 20 2011 09:33 GMT
#197
On December 20 2011 16:14 bumatlarge wrote:
Chez, you have to be careful, if Ver invited you, you can bet he specifically laid out traps for particular styles of play. We need think outside the box in order to counter his methods. Serious.

I'm accusing the hydra of provoking chez. There is no reason to ask such a stupid question. Stop asking stupid questions.

What does this even mean? The theme is to punish bad play, not to punish weird play and how do we "think outside the box to counter his methods"? Not making sense is bad play, will you take responsibility?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 20 2011 09:35 GMT
#198
On December 20 2011 18:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
PALM-AIR.
It's day 1, what else would you like him to currently say?


There's plenty of things that can be prodded already in the thread.
Computer says mafia
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
December 20 2011 09:45 GMT
#199
On December 20 2011 18:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Honestly, if this is the quality of posting we can expect all game, is anyone with me on a Chezinu lynch?


You right... I can't stray from my play in order to live by the rules of Ver! I MUST BE STRONG! I MUST BE BROWN!! I shall continue my play style... To do so.. I will have to take responsibility.. even if that means death.... For Freedom!!!!! (to post however I want) No longer will I live under the tyranny of the Ver! I shall express my words! Some may call my words meaningless and foolish, but for those that understand I shall continue to speak! I'm With you bumatlarge! You are not alone! Together we shall type what others fear to type!

Thank you Viscera... I have come to my senses!

For those that do not understand:
What one says has an effect on how one lives. It could mean live or death. Weakness or Strength! Rich or Poor. Red or Green! or possibly blue and black... Regardless! This is a game of words and text.. and possibly music, videos, and images! There are those among us who can eliminate us but simply writing our name. Do not fear! We have a great detective who is cracking down on this killer *cough*.

It is time.. For the HUNT TO BEGIN!!! DO NOT HOLD BACK YOUR WORDS IN FEAR!!! SPEAK THE TRUTH LOUD AND CLEAR!!!
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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
December 20 2011 09:51 GMT
#200
I don't understand why Chezinu would come in and basically claim Traitor. The move makes no sense as a Townie gamble since you destroy your own credibility and put yourself at risk of being lynched or vigged.

I know that he's Chezinu but I think he actually is the Traitor. Kind of like how he basically claimed SK day 1 in LSB's Merc Mini Mafia. Either way the onus is on him to either post real content or face the lynch.

I'm not too familiar with bum's play since every game I've been in with him we've been scum together so I ignore his posts but does he have a penchant for useless posting? I vaguely remember him getting lynched as Town in Personality for posting like crap.
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