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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 18 2011 15:30 GMT
#1841
On December 18 2011 23:56 Arctocod wrote:
haven't read him.

I just noticed even back on day 1 greymist seemed... I don't know, passive, disinterested, distant etc.


Thats because on day one GeYMisT had exams, you can check the pregame for that excuse.

I'll answer your questions when I get back, but in the meantime at least talk about other people aside from me?
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 18 2011 16:30 GMT
#1842
On December 19 2011 00:24 Jitsu wrote:
I agree with Radfield on protecting himself and Arcto with medic powers, definitly. At this point, I don't think it's even worthwhile to hide if you receive a medic power, because if it can drag a mafia KP off of Radfield and Arcto for them to survive another night, than that's successful. I revert to phrase where it says "You win with town." Not "You with with town if you are alive."

I also have a strong feeling with Sheth. He was pretty hard up for defending Curu after he went apeshit and blew his power. Than when he realized he wasn't going to turn anyone to his cause in defending him, he jumped. A side note: Sheth was heavily defending Curu up until GreyMist and I "spoke logically."


+ Show Spoiler +
On December 17 2011 05:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Also, ProfessorBA quit being a retard. Don't let just arctocod's rambling ruin this game please. It appears you have used some sort of power.. Should you tell us anything so we know whats going on please Prof? Arctocod shut up on lynching him please. Its getting old and stunting EVERY OTHER thing in this thread.


On December 17 2011 05:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Giygas you think thats a mafia power? Please tell me why you think that other then just Arctocod said it would be? Freaking sheep.


On December 17 2011 06:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Jitsu + Greymist Yay logic. You two make me happy.

#Vote: ProffessorBadAss




This is when Sheth blew up during the primary CuruGate scandle. He was employing a lot of different strategies, trying to convince people to get their votes off of Curu. Pleading with Arcto to ease pressure, asking everyone to think logically and seek reason...than when GreyMist and I "spoke logically" he turned. I think he realized no one was going to deny that Curulynch.


Its because at the time Arctocod was leading town with the whole I know hes mafia and I'll explain later! thing. I could tell it was just a way to push at him using both Arcto + Deus intelligently and then Arcto just took it a bit too far to be beneficial in my point of view. It worked and Curu was red, but I think if Curu had just responded intelligently to Arcto's claims we might not have lynched him. And the other time Arcto got like that he killed Eiii. I just didn't want to see two townies killed for no reason. And I had a lot of reasons that I could see Curu actually being town. He did some weird things if you look at his play now from a mafia point of view. Why would you announce you locked yourself in your room for instance with your power?

Anyway were 2 for 2 recently so lets keep this going. I'm not sure about Greymist I'll need to go through and filter it, but I thought his play looked very pro townie early and just lazy townie after no one started calling him out. I need to go get some reads on people by filtering them, but for now I'm just going to keep reading and analyzing.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#1843
On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:
Damn, I was writing up a post with the pertinent quote of ProfBad, but somehow lost it. It wasn't particularly useful anyways, so I'll just write the coles notes version instead:

* risk.nuke is likely town, simply due to the energy that ProfBad put into discrediting him, and trying to get him lynched.

* ProfBad made 2 real cases, both in the same post, on risk.nuke and cwave. However the case on Cwave is pretty weak, and he never mentions him again to my knowledge.

* Prof is willing to bus his teammates, as he consistently calls out Dropbear(Bum-GF) early game. However calling out the godfather is pretty common scum-play, as you want to encourage enough suspicion to draw DT checks.

*Calls out nyczbrandon's posts a couple times, but writes them off as bad townie.

* Fights against Dues-ex for mayor position, argues over a few other things as well. Added with a few other things, Dues is likely town.

* Zeks also looks better based on his interactions with ProfBad. Basically calling out the pardoner push as scum driven, and ProfBad calling him a dumbass

Bum basically said very little, but posted his suspicions against both evantrees and refallen. However he quickly retracted his suspicion against Refallen, but it was done in such a way that Refallen may be town. Not sure yet.


So, the vote list for ProfessorBadass as Pardoner. Seems highly unlikely to me that there would be zero scum on this wagon. I would in fact think scum would get on early to try and jolt it into action.

GreYMisT,
xsksc,
prplhz,

GiygaS,
Eiii,
Refallen,
Radfield

Assuming you believe me to be town(and apparantly green?!) where does that leave us?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum


I'm not 100% sure you're town yet. However, I do agree that there are much more viable lynch targets than you, especially for the double lynch tomorrow.

And I'm town
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 18 2011 16:50 GMT
#1844
Note that MrZentor EXTRAPOLATED/EXAGGERATED his ability in saying he was unlynchable - turns out his skill was just extending day in which he could've been lynched after the 24 hours anyway. By no means was he unlynchable.


I merely said I couldn't be lynched that night and let you guys guess after that.

For the double lynch, we should probably kill Sheth and Greymist.

Sheth defended the mafia godfather a lot, and his excuse for it is weak.

Grey led the election of PBA as pardoner.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 18 2011 16:58 GMT
#1845
I thought we came to the conclusion that there wasn't a double lynch? Unless i'm missing something?
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 18 2011 17:06 GMT
#1846
This is for the next day jitsu since pardoned cant use pardon anymlre
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#1847
On December 19 2011 01:58 Jitsu wrote:
I thought we came to the conclusion that there wasn't a double lynch? Unless i'm missing something?


Correct.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#1848
On December 19 2011 01:50 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
Note that MrZentor EXTRAPOLATED/EXAGGERATED his ability in saying he was unlynchable - turns out his skill was just extending day in which he could've been lynched after the 24 hours anyway. By no means was he unlynchable.


I merely said I couldn't be lynched that night and let you guys guess after that.

For the double lynch, we should probably kill Sheth and Greymist.

Sheth defended the mafia godfather a lot, and his excuse for it is weak.

Grey led the election of PBA as pardoner.



You thought what Arctocod was doing was great logic then Zentor?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 18 2011 17:22 GMT
#1849
You didn't even know what the case was so it's a bit perplexing that you keep claiming that we were using "bad logic". We were already pretty much confirmed townies by then and our opinions are respected so people were willing to take our word for it. It's also worth noting that the case that is required to convince everyone else isn't quite the same as the one that convinces us, mostly due to us knowing the players involved better than most.
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 18 2011 17:22 GMT
#1850
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.

will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
December 18 2011 17:33 GMT
#1851
I can't wait to see what you all post when I flip lol.
wat
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 18 2011 17:42 GMT
#1852
you already fliped :-[
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 18 2011 17:53 GMT
#1853
Alright so I'm still on my phone, but I'm going to make this as legible as possible.

I wanted professor badass in office because of te same reason I wanted arcticod and radfield. At that time I had no reason to think he was scum, and he was the next on the list of people most likely to be shot that night. I do agree that there is at least one scum on the vote list for professor badass though, as it would be pretty hilarious if he got in to office with 0 scum support.

I explained my reasoning earlier about the suggestion for MrZentor as secretary of defense. Remember at that time I thought it was a public rolecheck. I suggested Zentor because:

A. He already claimed his role in thread, allowing us to check if he was Lyning or not.

B. putting someone in who had already claimed would protect other blues from exposure

C. I did not believe any powers were associated with this role.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#1854
On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.

will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends.


Just noting this for now, notice how dues (supersoft) said earlier that he is very good at telling my town from my scum, and because of this he would research me. Now notice how he waits for both arcticod and radfield to voice their suspicions before he posts. If he is so sure I am "95%" scum and he has as good of reads as he claims, why not say this earlier instead of waiting for Arcto and rad?

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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 18 2011 18:03 GMT
#1855
Risk.nuke, do you think Sheth is scum?

Why or why not?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
December 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#1856
Oh LOL
wat
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 18 2011 19:35 GMT
#1857
Well Radfield just posted a case up! That goes some way in reassuring me that the vets in this town haven't lost their scumhunting mojo.

On December 19 2011 02:53 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright so I'm still on my phone, but I'm going to make this as legible as possible.

I wanted professor badass in office because of te same reason I wanted arcticod and radfield. At that time I had no reason to think he was scum, and he was the next on the list of people most likely to be shot that night. I do agree that there is at least one scum on the vote list for professor badass though, as it would be pretty hilarious if he got in to office with 0 scum support.

I explained my reasoning earlier about the suggestion for MrZentor as secretary of defense. Remember at that time I thought it was a public rolecheck. I suggested Zentor because:

A. He already claimed his role in thread, allowing us to check if he was Lyning or not.

B. putting someone in who had already claimed would protect other blues from exposure

C. I did not believe any powers were associated with this role.


All right I am going to save Radfield some time here and answer. I believe you just honed in onto the two weakest points of Radfield. For the first reasoning, I don't believe it is a crucial point of Radfield's case. It's just suspicious, and rightfully so. Radfield confirm/deny?

Same for the second reasoning, which was an afterthought of Radfield's. Radfield might be a bit hasty on pinning it as scummy play. I think most of us were laughing off the suggestion of a unlynchable only for day 1 claim, but if you truly believe it could be possible, a role check would be the only good way to confirm Zentor claim.

As it stands, your defence needs more work. I would expect a better one when you are on your computer.

As for Deus, although I can't speak for the rest of the town, rest assured I have an eye on him. I will wait for him to post his town list WITH REASONING though.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 18 2011 22:21 GMT
#1858
On December 19 2011 04:35 cascades wrote:
As for Deus, although I can't speak for the rest of the town, rest assured I have an eye on him. I will wait for him to post his town list WITH REASONING though.


says the scumcascades :-D
I am watching you, too and I've seen enough. You're scum aswell as this badboy:


On December 19 2011 03:02 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.

will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends.


Just noting this for now, notice how dues (supersoft) said earlier that he is very good at telling my town from my scum, and because of this he would research me. Now notice how he waits for both arcticod and radfield to voice their suspicions before he posts. If he is so sure I am "95%" scum and he has as good of reads as he claims, why not say this earlier instead of waiting for Arcto and rad?



On December 17 2011 17:38 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:50 cascades wrote:
So I guess this confirms ProfBad as scum then. I was looking through the vets to determine scummy play. I found all of them scummy for not pointing out how Arc was killing town discussion. I even laid the foundation to do so, but none of them stepped up to the plate. Finally Deus supplied the answer: it is Arc (Palmar) meta is to always play antitown like this. Hahahaha.

And now we have yet another policy lynch based on the fact that this Erandorr vet is a joke that ragequits games when he gets mafia. And in fact he does this so often its a meta that every vet knows. Surreal. Why isn't he permabanned yet? I want a Erandorr ban if ProfBad turns out to be scum. What a joke.

Banning Erandorr if ProfBad = scum?


btw. I'd like to have your opinion on the following players:

evantress
bumatlarge
nyczbrandon
GreYMisT
Cwave
tntp

:-)


I had you on my list first :--D

G_G
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 19 2011 02:09 GMT
#1859
ah we got the Final Election Tally Day Two
Looked again, Looks like Comprissent started it by accident.
GigyaS instead of GiygaS.
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 16 2011 03:44 Comprissent wrote:
##Vote: GigyaS


On December 16 2011 05:33 zeks wrote:
##Vote: GigyaS


On December 16 2011 05:14 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
##Unvote: Arctocod
##Vote: GigyaS


On December 16 2011 07:31 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
##Vote: GiygaS

typo >.>


On December 16 2011 08:00 Radfield wrote:
##Vote: Gigyas


On December 16 2011 09:52 Radfield wrote:
##vote: giygas

On December 18 2011 18:39 Arctocod wrote:
Also we know 4 of the mafia roles now (gf+rb+anonymous messager+"district attorney"), not quite sure if Zentor's power being fifth would make sense. I'm leaning against it

I'm leaning towards it being something vote related maybe something in line with Spaackle's.
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the Politician. Twice per game, you may buy target player's vote and dictate their day cycle and election cycle vote. The results of your action will not be reflected until the final vote count. You win with town
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 19 2011 02:21 GMT
#1860
Cwave, you were catching up on the thread 12 hours ago, yet we have heard nothing from you. In addition, you have done basically nothing since calling out the spaackle lynchers, which was not really contribution either. I would not be surprised if you flipped scum.

Zeks is probably town. TotallyNotTwoPeople are probably town. risk.nuke, giygas, zentor, are all probably town, but I haven't filtered them recently. Arcotcod is certainly town.

That leaves:

nyczbrandon: I would lean town
Dues-ex: leaning town
Refallen: not sure, really hasn't done much this game, possibly town though
evantrees: scummy, but has been getting pushed from mafia which may mean he is town

really not too sure on anyone else, but I will pound some filters tomorrow if I am still alive.

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