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On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure
This is who I want dead.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684
Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice.
Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player.
Lurks
Admits to sheeping radfield
When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said.
Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes.
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I will be voting for nycz this cycle, If that was not already clear.
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On December 20 2011 08:55 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
the profbadasslynch was based on several things.
- first of all, the setup is somehow balanced. That means that there are good players in the scumteam and good players in the town. Curu, radfield, palmogism, prplhz and I are too much. (meh)
- erandorrs afkness. He normally scumhunts at least when called out. (meh)
- the withdraw of Palmogism and his sudden appearance when everyone else was asleep.
- His overall behaviour. He wasn't working with us. There was no connection between the town and him. He treated us like enemys. The whole time. He played against Palmar and Syllo and you felt that. Curus townmeta is completely different. He's arrogant and hates scum aswell as Palmar. This game he just didn't care about scum. He just played along. Easylynch day1 etc. etc. etc.
- His mayoral campaign: It was a joke. Towncuru would have fought for that position, because he knows about the setupbalancing.
So many things. That case was 100% even before he did that stupid anonymus message thing lol.
(a role he had in his lotr-mafia aswell for scum :D)
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@Greymist: Can you guess who the three last reamaining scumteammembers are?
Again, I was just prompting Arcto to give me his reasoning. I hate it when people just say "dude is scum." Does nothing for us.
I mean I can guess that there would be scum in Evantrees, Nyczbrandon, and Cascades. For right now thats what i got.
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On December 20 2011 09:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:52 GreYMisT wrote:
prp other than lurking, is there anything else they have done to warrent your suspicion?
I will be voting professor badass for pardone. He is the other (aside from radfield) who is most likely to be shot tonight, as i know curu + errandor can be troubling for scum later on in the game. I want to see the game where erandorr was troubling for scum. I want to see the game where curu was troubling for scum. _________________ baseless assumption. You can do it better ;-) Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 04:10 GreYMisT wrote:On December 17 2011 03:54 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Risk and Grey my dear friends. You vote Prof. Badass right now please.
Furthermore I want your opinion on Zeks and totallynottwopeople. I'd like to hear your opinions on zeks and TntP as well while we are at it. I already mentioned what i thought of zeks earlier, but came to the conclusion that he was pretty null in my eyes for the time being. at the moment TntP is not the scummiest candidate out there, but there are a few iffy things he has done, such as publicly announcing that he is letting his friend decide all the votes, which would absolve them of responsibility (thats just another way of playing the newbie card to get out of things). Regardless, the way he is pressuring me seems quite genuine, and the result is that I think there are more important targets out there for us to chase. To humor you though I will read all there stuff in depth when i get the time. I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?
Whats up with the quote at the end? all it validates is what I said about not wanting to blindly sheep people.
Who should I have voted in? you? show me the game where you were troubling to scum.
As far as I am aware the only games I have played with Curu were one's where he was scum. However during those games he played very well, and I took that to mean he was a good player.
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On December 20 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
Who stopped MrZentor and Nisani bandwagons. Who saw through the scum plans and called out Curu when palmar withdrew. I've read this game better then anyone else, I should be Prankster. Period.
i thought the best part about flipping tomorrow would be to get town back on the right track.
But no, its definatly seeing you be wrong.
Its apparent to me that you all have gotten close to making up your minds in the way you all scour my posts for any logical fallicies even a town player would make. If you all want to lynch me fine, but lets at least start some actual scumhunting.
I'd like to not roleclaim, but Its probally going to be nessesary eventually, we'll see how things go.
Anyway, lets talk about nyczbrandon. does anyone here get a similar feeling that i do about him?
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On December 20 2011 09:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations. Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108
Wait what? not worry about scum who have not posting in the thread?
As far as I'm aware the goal of the game is to kill scum, if you think i have found one then why leave it?
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On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow
The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting.
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On December 20 2011 09:22 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:20 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations. On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108 Wait what? not worry about scum who have not posting in the thread? As far as I'm aware the goal of the game is to kill scum, if you think i have found one then why leave it? Because 2 things: 1) I don't think he is scum, as I have posted about before. 2) Modkills kill people just as well as lynches, and discussing someone who can't defend himself at all (by being completely afk from the thread) doesn't really help town discussion.
Whatever, my goal is to find scum, not expect the mods to do it for me.
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On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens
Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan.
First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night.
Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red.
Read them? good.
Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here.
Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating!
+ Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people.
Hopefully that does the trick.
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On December 20 2011 10:35 Radfield wrote:
Also, lynching nyczbrandon is a terrible idea. You don't lynch lurkers on Day 3. If he is town, he needs to step it up and show that though.
I'm going to look into cascades and comprissent.
well he did just post that he would answer VE's questions.
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On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have?
i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose.
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On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean?
Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher.
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On December 20 2011 11:04 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 11:00 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
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cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean? Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher. Incorrect on several counts. 1) The watcher CANNOT be roleblocked, or targeted by any action for that matter. 2) Players are told when they are roleblocked, therefore they can make that public. Then the watcher can visit the player who was roleblocked, and find out the identity of the roleblocker. Hence, mafia CANNOT roleblock today. 3) Because of this I can protect any medic who claims. But it makes far more sense to put our medic as the watcher. Then the medic is unhittable and can use his power, and I am unhittable(or a 1 for 1 trade due to the watcher) and can also protect. This is the ideal scenario.
Well fuck thats good.
I would love to get elected, but there is another aspect to my role that would make this plan less than effective. If you want me to fully claim it I will, but understand that nothing i have said so far is a lie. I am indeed a medic and I protected the targets I said.
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On December 20 2011 23:24 Radfield wrote:
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.
Greymist, you should claim in full as well.
I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.
Like I said if you insist I will claim in full, but please understand that what I am obscuring is only good for town, and that it hampers my ability to act in an elected position. Notice I did not run in any election as I normally do.
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Alright so I have been thinking about it, and I realized if I was in you guys' shoes I would be demanding a full claim from me.
I am only a 2-shot medic. I did not origninaly want to get elected because being night action immune would mean nothing as I would have no medic power to use. I predicted this would lead to me either having to lie about who i protected, or have to reveal later that I was only 2-shot, which would only lead to distraction and chaos. I also wanted to see if i could draw a roleblock or a shot, and being in the elected position would hamper that.
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On December 21 2011 02:28 MrZentor wrote:
I'd be glad to be elected as Watcher, as I am a confirmed townie, and my ability doesn't interfere with the watcher ability.
Also you are not confirmed townie. We know your role, there is a difference.
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On December 21 2011 03:45 MrZentor wrote:Could mafia make another fake announcement? If they could, couldn't they use it to clear their mafia buddy?
Sure, that is if curu can announce from the dead
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On December 21 2011 04:34 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 04:32 evantrees wrote:Slightly relevant picture I found amusing. On December 21 2011 04:06 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:46 GreYMisT wrote:On December 21 2011 03:45 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:25 zeks wrote:
evantrees needs to announce something Could mafia make another fake announcement? If they could, couldn't they use it to clear their mafia buddy? Sure, that is if curu can announce from the dead There is no chance they have more than one mafia with the announcer role? I'd say pretty small given we know the other 4, and it seems kind of weak when it has been seen once already. 17. bumatlarge (Replaces DropBear) godfather dead 25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)the Mafia Minister of Propaganda . dead someone roleblocker someone attorney Kind of feel the last one will end up as something in a similar vein as this, Politician. Twice per game, you may buy target player's vote and dictate their day cycle and election cycle vote. The results of your action will not be reflected until the final vote count. well we know they had an ability to remove Arc out of the election day 1 - im thinking that is an individual ability rather than a team one
Unless of course Eii was the one that removed arctocod
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I have to actually go christmas shopping, so im just going to say this before i get back.
The lynch looks like it is between compressient and nycz. Until nycz comes back with that analysis he promised the thread, I am behind lynching him. I would like to hear the thoughts of those who have not voted about these two, as well as the thoughts of the accused on why someone else should be lynched.
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On December 21 2011 04:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 04:34 GreYMisT wrote:On December 21 2011 04:34 zeks wrote:On December 21 2011 04:32 evantrees wrote:Slightly relevant picture I found amusing. On December 21 2011 04:06 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:46 GreYMisT wrote:On December 21 2011 03:45 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:25 zeks wrote:
evantrees needs to announce something Could mafia make another fake announcement? If they could, couldn't they use it to clear their mafia buddy? Sure, that is if curu can announce from the dead There is no chance they have more than one mafia with the announcer role? I'd say pretty small given we know the other 4, and it seems kind of weak when it has been seen once already. 17. bumatlarge (Replaces DropBear) godfather dead 25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)the Mafia Minister of Propaganda . dead someone roleblocker someone attorney Kind of feel the last one will end up as something in a similar vein as this, Politician. Twice per game, you may buy target player's vote and dictate their day cycle and election cycle vote. The results of your action will not be reflected until the final vote count. well we know they had an ability to remove Arc out of the election day 1 - im thinking that is an individual ability rather than a team one Unless of course Eii was the one that removed arctocod Possible, but this post makes me feel like he didn't use his power, and that scum used theirs: Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:57 Eiii wrote:
Given that this is ELECTION MAFIA, the whole step-down thing is definitely a red power. Last night I wouldn't have been comfortable with either deus or prof in an elected role, but now that prof is actually posting I'm going to be voting for him. I'm kind of undecided on the lynch, but it's not going to be on zentor. unvoting and rereading.
Yea you're right, it looks that way. Also thinking about it now that evantrees has proven his role, it further supports this whole "we have power roles similar to mafia" theme im seeing.
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