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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
OK, so we're obviously lynching curu. Silencer is a fairly scum-favoured tool, and using it on oneself is not particularly town. Not to mention, did anyone else read that convo between Erandorr and Curu and think it was a convo between two townies? I did not.
In other news, I am here to save the day! I have the power to enact a double lynch, and as such will be using it today. Curu is obviously locked in, so lets kickstart on who else we want to lynch 
Bum, your posting is ridiculously terrible this game. I would guess half your posts so far I actually have no idea what your talking about. Have you filtered anyone? Have you read any post more than once? You just feel like your putting in about 10 minutes a day of effort. I realize you're homeless and everything, but don't the public libraries have computers you can use?
On December 17 2011 08:00 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 07:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that... It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him... + Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.
We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow. do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ? I don't know, maybe it only lasts for X hours rather than the whole day? It's fairly pointless to speculate about his role because the way he used it and acted in the thread make him a pretty much confirmed scum. Also, we definitely shouldn't consider MrZentor confirmed town or anything based on his ability Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:10 MrZentor wrote:I'm pretty sure it's an ability that must be used before two hours before the election.A little over 2 hours remain in the day. There is no reason for Palmar to do this, and if he had, he would explain it. Risk.nuke acts like Palmar was the one who resigned, something a mafia would do if it were a mafia role like the one I described. Ehh wtf move palmar? And he tries to get the role of pardoner. Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Yeah, risk.nuke is mafia.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. It's a rather astute conclusion based on the information available at the time, especially coming from a new player. Eiii's flip pretty much confirmed that it really is the case for the scum version of the role. He also pushes risk nuke, who I believe mafia has considered to be the easy mislynch. While his role can be used in a pro town fashion as he did when I requested him to, it's also quite nice for scum. I'll have to look into what people were saying about Zentor on day 1 though to see if him being scum makes sense http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12735074
This is actually remarkably damning. I haven't checked the time-stamps yet, but what possible reason would a townie have for speculating that it was an ability that needed to be used at least 2 hours before the day. I NEVER would have gotten close to assuming that. It was obvious it was scum driven, but 2 hours? That's incredibly specific and accurate.
MrZentor, when you are around please let me know. I have a few questions for you.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
We only have 13 of 21 people voting for election right now. I want everyone to put their vote in next time they are online.
Keep in mind we want GiygaS in #1(Surgeon General), and Arctocod in #2(Defense). Please place your votes accordingly.
I was planning on doing some reading tonight, but I'm fried, so I will be on in the morning.
When the surgeon general makes someone a medic, do they find out right away? Or do they have to wait until the following night to start making saves.
For instance: Giygas becomes SG on Day 2 and makes me a 2-shot medic. Can I start saving players on night 2, or do I have to wait until night 3 to use my power.
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On December 17 2011 12:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@TNTP You were being inactive at the time as well. You are a hydra who is really only one person. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. The part about Erandorr not joining a game and not posting doesn't apply to you obviously, but you weren't really posting much as well.
It wasn't a great question I just really wanted you in the discussion. And I was trying to start up other discussion then the posts on Curu.
...what? My friend was traveling today and therefore I haven't been in touch with him and he hasn't been keeping up with the thread. He'll be back and contributing when he can. The being inactive as scum is part of Erandorr's meta...I have no scum meta as I have yet to be scum, so that part doesn't apply to me either.
The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. What in the fuck is that? How was the rest of it filler? How do you know it was just a pressure play? You didn't write the post.
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@Radfield
How does your double lynch power work? Will we get two votes, or will first and second in number of votes be hung?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:51 Radfield wrote:
For instance: Giygas becomes SG on Day 2 and makes me a 2-shot medic. Can I start saving players on night 2
Yes sir
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United States2095 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:58 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 12:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@TNTP You were being inactive at the time as well. You are a hydra who is really only one person. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. The part about Erandorr not joining a game and not posting doesn't apply to you obviously, but you weren't really posting much as well.
It wasn't a great question I just really wanted you in the discussion. And I was trying to start up other discussion then the posts on Curu. ...what? My friend was traveling today and therefore I haven't been in touch with him and he hasn't been keeping up with the thread. He'll be back and contributing when he can. The being inactive as scum is part of Erandorr's meta...I have no scum meta as I have yet to be scum, so that part doesn't apply to me either. Show nested quote +The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. What in the fuck is that? How was the rest of it filler? How do you know it was just a pressure play? You didn't write the post.
Deus said it was, and it was what I assumed going in to it.
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On December 17 2011 11:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Grey, what do you say to the accusation that you're guilty of changing your opinion of someone based entirely on town's sentiment?
I change my vote based in who I want to lynch. That's it.
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lol I can actually post. My actual role is to make an anonymous announcement anytime I want.
I overreacted pretty heavily but I really don't have time to be as involved as I should be and obviously Erandorr has refused to do jack shit so that was my easy way out. Early apologies to everyone who I ruined this game for, I should've asked for replacement before throwing myself into a situation where a replacement is worthless anyways.
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On December 17 2011 12:51 Radfield wrote:
We only have 13 of 21 people voting for election right now. I want everyone to put their vote in next time they are online.
Keep in mind we want GiygaS in #1(Surgeon General), and Arctocod in #2(Defense). Please place your votes accordingly.
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Are we planning on a third candidate in case scum have another shot at making someone withdraw?
As for second lynch, i'm too wiped to analyze filters right now. Beating up noobs in LoL is too tiring
I will be taking a first look at marserblood/VE after looking up on the shot people's filters
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And yes you should still be lynching me. I accept that I've put myself into this position with my stubbornness, attitude and activity, just want to say sorry in advance!
I'm also fairly pissed off at Erandorr who basically told me that I would get lynched sooner or later because of his non posting then continued to do nothing at all. It became an extremely uphill battle that I didn't want to put effort into facing.
Sorry to everyone I was overly aggressive to as well! I let a bit of my rage at my hydra partner spill over into my posting  . No hard feelings.
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On December 17 2011 14:53 Curu wrote:And yes you should still be lynching me. I accept that I've put myself into this position with my stubbornness, attitude and activity, just want to say sorry in advance! I'm also fairly pissed off at Erandorr who basically told me that I would get lynched sooner or later because of his non posting then continued to do nothing at all. It became an extremely uphill battle that I didn't want to put effort into facing. Sorry to everyone I was overly aggressive to as well! I let a bit of my rage at my hydra partner spill over into my posting . No hard feelings.
Wait, can't you not talk or something?
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No, it was essentially my way to quit the game lol. I explained further up.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:54 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 14:53 Curu wrote:And yes you should still be lynching me. I accept that I've put myself into this position with my stubbornness, attitude and activity, just want to say sorry in advance! I'm also fairly pissed off at Erandorr who basically told me that I would get lynched sooner or later because of his non posting then continued to do nothing at all. It became an extremely uphill battle that I didn't want to put effort into facing. Sorry to everyone I was overly aggressive to as well! I let a bit of my rage at my hydra partner spill over into my posting . No hard feelings. Wait, can't you not talk or something?
read...
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Vatican City State258 Posts
hehe Curu, your ability is still not a very protown ability. Scum had this ability in your lotr-mafia, too.
+ your apology for your activity doesn't make you town :-D
(I somewhere already posted, that you activitylvl has nothing to do with you being scum or not)
"Early apologies to everyone who I ruined this game for" - I guess this is directed towards your scumteammembers then :D
I am looking forward to play with you again when you have some more time to actually play. ;-)
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Yeah I don't expect anyone to treat this as a plea for sympathy or anything. I'm sincere in apologizing to everyone in this game (and the hosts). You can interpret it however you want.
Lynch votes should stay on me regardless.
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That power is insanely protown.
This game.
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Feels like it would be useless in town hands though particularly if scum had one of their own.
Concerning MrZentor I feel an extra 24 hours leans a bit too much towards town to be a scum ability myself.
I feel he would make a good third candidate for the election for that reason, a little doubtful on the need for one though.
@evantrees
How about you give your top 2 scum reads and some analysis on them? You said you were trying to be helpful, and your scum reads will be infinitely more helpful than things like:+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry started reading the thread rather late, so tomorrow. Read some filters of dead people first before I started. But can post these two opinions from before this mess. Gut says Comprissent is scum for some reason and has since early the first day and some suspicion on ProfessorBadass because arc was not dead night one kind of removing that reason for making him withdraw though yes he would be doomed to be hittable night two and on even if prplhz was still alive.
Who has done the most filter and posting of people? so I can go through theirs later. Less of a chance of them influencing my opinion.
still bugging me hopefully get an answer this time.
Twice per game you may pardon a player, nullifying all votes against the player during the lynch,
does the person with the most votes after the pardon is used(the runner up) get lynched or is the lynch called off.
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On December 17 2011 13:33 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 12:58 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 17 2011 12:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@TNTP You were being inactive at the time as well. You are a hydra who is really only one person. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. The part about Erandorr not joining a game and not posting doesn't apply to you obviously, but you weren't really posting much as well.
It wasn't a great question I just really wanted you in the discussion. And I was trying to start up other discussion then the posts on Curu. ...what? My friend was traveling today and therefore I haven't been in touch with him and he hasn't been keeping up with the thread. He'll be back and contributing when he can. The being inactive as scum is part of Erandorr's meta...I have no scum meta as I have yet to be scum, so that part doesn't apply to me either. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. What in the fuck is that? How was the rest of it filler? How do you know it was just a pressure play? You didn't write the post. Deus said it was, and it was what I assumed going in to it.
Can you quote where Deus said that please? I am not seeing it.
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United States2095 Posts
On December 17 2011 07:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
okay palmar. curus role is a scumrole and he didnt defend himself. i guess you were right.
however you have to admit, that my play would have made sense, if he actually was town. good guy bad guy psychology etc.
now that curu won't make trouble, we can focus on the post-curu-time.
i want to know what you guys think about me and where i am on your list. depending on that i may going to play more transparent to avoid confusion. if you actually lean (correctly) towards town, I keep playing the same and continue to ask my questions etc.
i also want to make sure that i survive night2. i am still not convinced of giygas being a superior electioncandidate compared to myself.
Here ya go~
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Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:43 Radfield wrote:OK, so we're obviously lynching curu. Silencer is a fairly scum-favoured tool, and using it on oneself is not particularly town. Not to mention, did anyone else read that convo between Erandorr and Curu and think it was a convo between two townies? I did not. In other news, I am here to save the day! I have the power to enact a double lynch, and as such will be using it today. Curu is obviously locked in, so lets kickstart on who else we want to lynch Bum, your posting is ridiculously terrible this game. I would guess half your posts so far I actually have no idea what your talking about. Have you filtered anyone? Have you read any post more than once? You just feel like your putting in about 10 minutes a day of effort. I realize you're homeless and everything, but don't the public libraries have computers you can use? Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 08:00 Arctocod wrote:On December 17 2011 07:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that... It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him... + Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.
We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow. do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ? I don't know, maybe it only lasts for X hours rather than the whole day? It's fairly pointless to speculate about his role because the way he used it and acted in the thread make him a pretty much confirmed scum. Also, we definitely shouldn't consider MrZentor confirmed town or anything based on his ability On December 14 2011 10:10 MrZentor wrote:I'm pretty sure it's an ability that must be used before two hours before the election.A little over 2 hours remain in the day. There is no reason for Palmar to do this, and if he had, he would explain it. Risk.nuke acts like Palmar was the one who resigned, something a mafia would do if it were a mafia role like the one I described. Ehh wtf move palmar? And he tries to get the role of pardoner. Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Yeah, risk.nuke is mafia.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. It's a rather astute conclusion based on the information available at the time, especially coming from a new player. Eiii's flip pretty much confirmed that it really is the case for the scum version of the role. He also pushes risk nuke, who I believe mafia has considered to be the easy mislynch. While his role can be used in a pro town fashion as he did when I requested him to, it's also quite nice for scum. I'll have to look into what people were saying about Zentor on day 1 though to see if him being scum makes sense http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12735074 This is actually remarkably damning. I haven't checked the time-stamps yet, but what possible reason would a townie have for speculating that it was an ability that needed to be used at least 2 hours before the day. I NEVER would have gotten close to assuming that. It was obvious it was scum driven, but 2 hours? That's incredibly specific and accurate. MrZentor, when you are around please let me know. I have a few questions for you.
Don't use the doublelynch today!!!
If curu is scum he has nothing to lose and he may just pardon the other lynchcandidate if he's scum.
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