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GreYMisT
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On December 19 2011 15:03 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: no vigilante on greymist? that's so sad. We got to lynch him, then. Do we have the doublelynch today? I'd say its good to activate it now. The fact that people still think there is a double lynch is hilarious. | ||
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GreYMisT
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As far as the whole apparent medic fail goes, as giygas said either the medic was roleblocked, or it fell into mafia hands. Either way the mafia probally know who has that power now. However, this is assuming that another mafia shot got blocked somehow, so there still exists the chance that the maifa double stacked arctocod. Therefore giygas, i do recommend you reveal who you made the medic, however i think you need to wait until the very end of tonight to do so. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 19 2011 15:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=62163 Theres my filter, can you read it? yeppers | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 19 2011 19:19 Refallen wrote: Hardly a point, and you're not exactly helping your case by saying how two very good players think you're scum (one confirmed town, too). Also, this did not make sense at all. The most definite clear choices for the Secretary of Defense and Surgeon were definitely Arc and Giygas, bar none. Your premise of how putting in Zentor would protect other blues is ridiculous. How would that work? Lastly, I for one thought that Zentor's claimed ability was very very believable. Also, evantrees you need to stop nitpicking on minor issues like vote formatting. Lastly, we really shouldn't be discussing modkills here. What's the point of that? For now, I'm leaning towards lynching Greymist. I'm Glad you didn't actually read my post so I have to explain it again. yay. I wanted MrZentor in that spot when I believed the position was a public roleclaim. After It was explained to me that that was not the case, I instead supported Giygas and Arctocod for the spot. None of you seem to be worried at all that the entire thread has decided to lynch me really based on nothing more than "feeling" and "meta." didnt we decide those were not good reasons early on? | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 03:11 zeks wrote: No Radfield is getting watched no matter what Case 1: Radfield is roleblocked Watcher finds the roleblocker Case 2: Radfield is not roleblocked Radfield can medic someone Case 3: Radfield is scum (however unlikely) We will know from the watch Case 4: Radfield is hit Watcher will know who hit him The watcher is the key to keeping Radfield tonight Can you explain how #3 would occur? Cause all a watch does is check who visits the target. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote: Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null. In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do. He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible. In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known. I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 04:44 Radfield wrote: That was 5 hours AFTER the post that I quoted, which is where the flip-flop occurred and where you were "not completely sold on the risk being town". In that time both me and Arctocod had made it clear we felt risk.nuke was a poor lynch. Who do you think is likely scum? Still the three you previously posted about? Yes, I expect to find scum in those three players. Also when you said "public roleclaim" in bold earlier, was that clairifying my misunderstanding of the secretary of defense? or were you actually asking me to roleclaim? | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 04:49 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: And I obviously believe Greymist to be scum as well. So, Greymist, I look forward to hearing reasons why all of us are wrong if you have them. What was the point of all the quotes? for empahsis? to make me scared? My only defense is what I have given thus far. a lot of people are citing me changing my mind as the biggest evidence that I am scum. The question is do you believe this was done in a scummy or a town way? A scum player would change their mind to avoid suspicion and to not stand out. I have been doing it based on what i think is right, with complete disregard to how it would make me look. On another note Im going to vote for you to ensure you get the runner up, as I see most are voting for deus atm. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 04:52 Radfield wrote: Also, read that post you just quoted: First you state your read has been reduced to near null. But then you go on to mention a number of points in favor of him being town. Reading that makes it seem like you conclusion is he is town. However you finish with this line: Your point on him being scummy is that you "don't agree" with how he has been scumhunting. Not that he has acted scummy. That is your only point you make against him, and it is the excuse you give for not having a town read. I don't agree with the way many people scum-hunt, but that has NO BEARING on my read of them. That whole post reads like you think risk.nuke is town, yet don't want to come out and say it. Your only excuse for not having a town read is you "don't agree" with his scumhunting. That is scummy. By "don't agree" I was refering to the way he continuously tried pushing for my lynch all game long, with 0 reasoning to back it up, and didn't give any when asked for it. That type of scumhunting I do find scummy. | ||
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GreYMisT
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come on. | ||
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GreYMisT
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That was directed at radfield. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 05:14 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: The point was largely for emphasis, and partially because you were claiming the case on you was weak and was just gut feelings and meta. So, a question for you, if syllogism, palmar, radfield, and supersoft all thought someone was scum, and palmar/syllogism were confirmed town, radfield very likely town, and supersoft you were leaning town on as well, what odds would you give on the person they were all accusing actually being scum? In general of course. What sort of loaded question is this? the question isnt what I believe, I know they are wrong. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 05:57 Radfield wrote: Additionally, would having my vote on you make my case any stronger? Does my case lose credibility because I haven't put my vote down? Are you really so exasperated that this is what your defense boils down to? Not a defense, just a side comment. @ Deus I would suggest nycz. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 07:13 MrZentor wrote: Good question! I don't really have a case against you, everybody else does, and I agree with them. Well, currently Grey looks a lot more scummier than you do, and lynching Grey will give clues on whether you are mafia or not, so it would be much better to lynch him first! If you need specifics, prompt me, and I will be glad to spend a lot more of my time engaging in conversation about why it's much better to lynch you than Grey! Please someone tell me I am imagining this post, and this is not actually one of the reasons I'm being voted for. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 07:26 risk.nuke wrote: Greymist Beeing in favor of electing the professor+ Show Spoiler + On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote: I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. He tries to make a case on Jitsu but for some reason he doesn't ask professor whom he belives is town and should be a good scumhunter for thoughts, he only asks random townies. (That is weird) No, really. Townies ask who they belive are their strongest townreads for thoughts, scum asks random townies to gain towncred with the illusion that they are discussing. He votes for MrZentor who I am sure is town because of his abillity. He tries to discredit me with some weak metagame analysis. he is comfortable with lynching nisani (ViceraEyes) When he says he is changing his mind about me he first calls me null-read and then he says he thinks I am town. This entire post is an attempt to appease me. Greymist says this, to try and win me over. Since Townie A who gets called a townie gets less suspicious of Person B who said he says he thinks Townie A is town. The part involving me is just some weird singled out points to disguise the real purpose of the post. The point of this post was to discreetly call me town so I would stop tunneling him. You might say that he would do that even if he was town because nobody wants to be tunneled but no, this only makes sense if he KNOWS I am town. Because if I were scum when this post got put put under the magnifying glass those weak points could get him lynched ergo you don't do this unless you KNOW. He is reluctant to lynch the professor Here we're at it again, he keeps beliving the professor is town but his posts doesn't show any real strenght behind his belifes, they are just there when it's voting time. Conclusion: Mafia Can you show me where i was reluctant to lynch the professor? | ||
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On December 20 2011 08:15 risk.nuke wrote: "Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?" - greymist "How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you." - greymist "I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?" - greymist At that point arcto had not given any sort of reasoning whatsoever, and had just told us to vote for him. Is it wrong to want to know why? If you have not noticed I don't like it when people don't explain why we should do something, and just expect us to follow like sheep. example one: you saying im scum all game. example two: see the above 3 quotes. After ProfBadass started freaking out, I voted for him, just as most of us did. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 08:17 zeks wrote: sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl is something stopping you? Your post implies that you believe he is town and just saying scummy things in your eyes. is this true? | ||
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