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Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:
1. jaj22 - Radfield
5. Comprissent - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield - Zeks
24. cascades - Zeks
I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up
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risk all you need to know is that I shot sheth last night
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everyone should filter sheth and his mess of posts right now
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On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:
1. jaj22 - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
24. cascades - Zeks
3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield x2 - Zeks
I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up
I have fixed the list. Thanks for letting me know Comprissent was dead - I was going by the player list on page 1.
Nothing much has changed, cascades will now vote for Radfield, and I forgot about Radfield's 2nd vote, it will also go to me.
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On December 22 2011 23:04 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:
1. jaj22 - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
24. cascades - Radfield
3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield x2 - Zeks
I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up I have fixed the list. Thanks for letting me know Comprissent was dead - I was going by the player list on page 1. Nothing much has changed, cascades will now vote for Radfield, and I forgot about Radfield's 2nd vote, it will also go to me.
EBWOP
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On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.
Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist
Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game
Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing?
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On December 22 2011 16:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
radfield wasnt visited
Sheth would still be able to use roleblock right? Who got roleblocked
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On December 22 2011 23:54 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2011 23:33 zeks wrote:On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it. Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing? I'm asking about your role because I am not sure about you. Blues doesn't win the game. So answer my question. I'm choosing Deus over IO because blues doesn't win the game for us and because nobody knows what IO is and most often it's just as good the IO decideds what to do for himself to assure scum won't know. I want to discuss privatly with Dues without scum ears and I think that will be very beneficial. Alot more then having radfield controlling the IO or choosing two people who doesn't realise how damn good this role is and won't be able to use it to full extent. Also me and Dues are green so we would be spreading out the people mafia will want to hit.
You are still not sure about me when I shot Sheth? Seriously. If I were scum that would be the stupidest fucking move in the world. I would've just decreased kp from 2 to 1. In fact the scum are in such a terrible situation they might as well concede this game right now.
Blue's don't win the game? Buddy - the blues are WINNING this game for town right now. Both Sheth and bumatlarge have not been obvious scum targets and if you were given vig you would've shot our medic dead. We are in a good position because of good choices made by myself and VE.
I already answered your question that I am clearly WIFOMing my role. The fact that your fishing for my role and inserting doubt into Radfield who is 99% townie proven by his posting and the circumstances is making you more and more scummy
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On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.
Why Radfield is town by Zeks
1. He claimed roleblock for (3?) straight days. Did anyone come out to counter claim the role block? No. Did we ever see a second vote appear on any voting list from his mayor power? No.
Could he have claimed roleblock while telling Sheth to not use roleblock at all? I would think that is one of the stupidest scum schemes known to man.
2. The following posts he's made. See bolded parts
On December 16 2011 09:17 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@greymist What about nyczbrandon makes him seem like scum to you rather than newbie-town? Do you think scum would be letting one of their members say things like: :/ I like to lurk. I also just came back recently and I saw a post with my name in it so I decide to respond to it. If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Most scum teams don't take an active role in the posting of their members. In fact many scum teams don't really post much at all in their QT outside of KP and role discussion.
Absolutely true and I'll bet at least half of you don't know that.
On December 16 2011 09:37 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:24 Jitsu wrote:
Arctocod, in my eyes, is leaning extremely town. I feel you are in this same section, Radfield.
ProfBA because we voted him in as pardoner, and I feel that if he was mafia, you and Arcto would be able to catch him near the end, and we voted him into Pardoner for a reason. Since he is unable to pardon himself, if you 5 were remaining, I think it would end in the towns favor.
I'm not quite in the same section as Arctocod just yet, or at least I shouldn't be. I need a couple notches on my belt first. Me and Arcto will not be around to catch ProfBA in the end. We will be almost certainly dead, unless mafia does not get wise real quick. That means if he is mafia we need to catch him within the next two cycles, or else the townies in the endgame will have to do it on their own.
If there are question marks around ProfBA then you want to leave him hanging where mafia can get to him, and make sure not to give him an excuse to still be alive Day 4 or Day 5.
On December 17 2011 12:43 Radfield wrote:OK, so we're obviously lynching curu. Silencer is a fairly scum-favoured tool, and using it on oneself is not particularly town. Not to mention, did anyone else read that convo between Erandorr and Curu and think it was a convo between two townies? I did not. In other news, I am here to save the day! I have the power to enact a double lynch, and as such will be using it today. Curu is obviously locked in, so lets kickstart on who else we want to lynch  Bum, your posting is ridiculously terrible this game. I would guess half your posts so far I actually have no idea what your talking about. Have you filtered anyone? Have you read any post more than once? You just feel like your putting in about 10 minutes a day of effort. I realize you're homeless and everything, but don't the public libraries have computers you can use?Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 08:00 Arctocod wrote:On December 17 2011 07:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that... It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him... + Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.
We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow. do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ? I don't know, maybe it only lasts for X hours rather than the whole day? It's fairly pointless to speculate about his role because the way he used it and acted in the thread make him a pretty much confirmed scum. Also, we definitely shouldn't consider MrZentor confirmed town or anything based on his ability On December 14 2011 10:10 MrZentor wrote:I'm pretty sure it's an ability that must be used before two hours before the election.A little over 2 hours remain in the day. There is no reason for Palmar to do this, and if he had, he would explain it. Risk.nuke acts like Palmar was the one who resigned, something a mafia would do if it were a mafia role like the one I described. Ehh wtf move palmar? And he tries to get the role of pardoner. Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Yeah, risk.nuke is mafia.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. It's a rather astute conclusion based on the information available at the time, especially coming from a new player. Eiii's flip pretty much confirmed that it really is the case for the scum version of the role. He also pushes risk nuke, who I believe mafia has considered to be the easy mislynch. While his role can be used in a pro town fashion as he did when I requested him to, it's also quite nice for scum. I'll have to look into what people were saying about Zentor on day 1 though to see if him being scum makes sense http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12735074 This is actually remarkably damning. I haven't checked the time-stamps yet, but what possible reason would a townie have for speculating that it was an ability that needed to be used at least 2 hours before the day. I NEVER would have gotten close to assuming that. It was obvious it was scum driven, but 2 hours? That's incredibly specific and accurate. MrZentor, when you are around please let me know. I have a few questions for you.
3. Dropbear was godfather
If like in many setups where godfather is collectively chosen by the scum team then I can't see why Dropbear would be chosen over Radfield
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On December 23 2011 00:15 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 00:02 zeks wrote:On December 22 2011 23:54 risk.nuke wrote:On December 22 2011 23:33 zeks wrote:On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it. Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing? I'm asking about your role because I am not sure about you. Blues doesn't win the game. So answer my question. I'm choosing Deus over IO because blues doesn't win the game for us and because nobody knows what IO is and most often it's just as good the IO decideds what to do for himself to assure scum won't know. I want to discuss privatly with Dues without scum ears and I think that will be very beneficial. Alot more then having radfield controlling the IO or choosing two people who doesn't realise how damn good this role is and won't be able to use it to full extent. Also me and Dues are green so we would be spreading out the people mafia will want to hit. You are still not sure about me when I shot Sheth? Seriously. If I were scum that would be the stupidest fucking move in the world. I would've just decreased kp from 2 to 1. In fact the scum are in such a terrible situation they might as well concede this game right now. Blue's don't win the game? Buddy - the blues are WINNING this game for town right now. Both Sheth and bumatlarge have not been obvious scum targets and if you were given vig you would've shot our medic dead. We are in a good position because of good choices made by myself and VE. I already answered your question that I am clearly WIFOMing my role. The fact that your fishing for my role and inserting doubt into Radfield who is 99% townie proven by his posting and the circumstances is making you more and more scummy How the &¤%# is radfield 99% townie. Explain that to me, he hasn't done anything special to deserve a towntitle. Now look you idiot. From the start Radfield became grouped in to the people who were the elite force of this game and has he been living up to that? No! Compare to what palmar achieved the time he lived and you'd fucking see that Radfield is floating on only because of this idea that he is our best townplayer which magicly makes his posts great while doing a bare minimun required of him and occasionally throwing in a good post WELL GUESS WHAT, If he was scum and didn't do that he would get INSTANTLY LYNCHED so tell me you sheeping moron how he is 99% town... You people, I don't get how you think. And if you insist on not sharing your role then you shouldn't be elected because if (A) you're mafia you shouldn't be elected and (B) if you're town you shouldn't be elected to spread out mafia targets. Also it's not my damn fault greymist played scummy and got unlucky with the circumstances of how he defended The Professor. You probably are deluding yourself that Greymist played well but he played a lousy game because he had to role-claim medic to not get lyched.
I will not share my role PERIOD. So interested in what secretary of defense power does eh? Maybe it has something to do with your name and perhaps I'll need to launch it at your face
Don't call me an idiot when I've done infinitely more than you have in hunting scum. And go ask the whole town how much credibility you have. You're an attention seeker for running in each election dying to get an ability
For you to not go with the voting plan today means you think either Radfield or I am scum or both of us are scum. You need to provide cases on one or both of us. If Radfield and I aren't elected in our respective spots tomorrow I'll know who to find.
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All the election/lynch lists
If anything is incorrect please let me know
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On December 23 2011 01:02 jaj22 wrote:
Deus said that no-one visited Radfield last night, so that'd be two roleblock claims at most.
I think roleblocks are on a per cycle basis
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On December 23 2011 01:21 jaj22 wrote:So's the watcher, apparently: "Additionally, the police chief role's watcher ability applies to all day and night actions during the cycle." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12828580Not sure how that works in different overlap cases though, given that the roleblock could have started before the watcher ability kicked in. If no-one claims roleblock then I guess we can greentext the question.
watcher is immune to night action
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On December 23 2011 03:29 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Even if Radfield isn't around, I still want to hear from Zeks and Greymist on whether we should mass role-claim. If Radfield is around I would like to hear from him as well. Prankster/Secretary of Defense need not say what those powers do, as I don't see how that would help us determine who is town or scum. Only claiming of roles given at the start of the game would be needed. I would also be fine with neither Zeks nor Radfield claiming during a mass claim. Presumably we know the last of the red roles remaining, so that would mean scum would either need to claim vanilla, or claim a plausible yet unprovable blue role with no counter-claim.
It would be nice for all vanillas to claim right now
My list:
Scummy
Cwave
Refallen
Marserblood(jaj)
Prob Town
TnTP
risk.nuke
deus-ex
Cascades
Jitsu
Zentor
Town
Greymist
Zeks
Radfield
I've read over filters for Refallen, Cwave, jaj, Cascades, Jitsu. Right now if I had to choose I'd choose Refallen but I must say today's lynch is a difficult one but his apologetic tone in his posting (somewhat similar to Sheth's) strikes at me the most.
However he did call out Sheth in the middle of the game but scum bussing is common.
Now this might be pure meta but looking at day 1 election list I see Dropbear, Sheth, ProfBA votes all on Radfield.
For ProfBA we only have GreyMist, Refallen and Radfield left. From history we know scum wants to spread out their votes to avoid suspicion which is why I think Refallen would be guilty for that reason.
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On December 23 2011 04:09 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 03:52 zeks wrote:On December 23 2011 03:29 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Even if Radfield isn't around, I still want to hear from Zeks and Greymist on whether we should mass role-claim. If Radfield is around I would like to hear from him as well. Prankster/Secretary of Defense need not say what those powers do, as I don't see how that would help us determine who is town or scum. Only claiming of roles given at the start of the game would be needed. I would also be fine with neither Zeks nor Radfield claiming during a mass claim. Presumably we know the last of the red roles remaining, so that would mean scum would either need to claim vanilla, or claim a plausible yet unprovable blue role with no counter-claim. It would be nice for all vanillas to claim right now Only the vanillas? Well then, just to make it clear that I am complying with this and not ignoring it, I am a blue. I can claim the details of my role if needed, but otherwise I will leave it at that.
Actually I'm okay with everyone claiming
Would like to hear from GreyMist about this
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On December 23 2011 04:21 Jitsu wrote:
Is everyone claiming roles now?
yes please
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TnTP we can just use the investigative power on refallen
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1. jaj22 - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
24. cascades - Radfield
3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield x2 - Zeks
Reminder please vote this way in election
TYVM
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On December 23 2011 23:50 risk.nuke wrote:
so zeks, you want to stack multiple powers (3) on you when mafia have 1 kp and we don't have any medic.
radfield is a 2-shot medic
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I believe today we do have a difficult lynch on our hands as the remaining scum have done a slightly better job than their dead counterparts
Having said that any veteran/hydra suspicions that I may or may not have will be left for later on in the game. If Dropbear was chosen godfather my hypothesis is that the rest of the scum team is lower on the veteran hierarchy than Dropbear. Of course that kind of logic may not be agreeable by everyone, but nevertheless we will leave (suspicious) vets for later. My top 3 today is Cwave / Refallen / jaj with my vote on Cwave.
1. Ran for 2 positions half heartedly (like Sheth)
2. Inserts doubts immediately on our veterans (weak arguments - does not commit to)
On December 12 2011 21:47 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:17 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i dont like how the general attention is focussed on the election and not on the lynch...
@prplhz, i have to start somewhere right?! There isn't much info atm to base a lynch on so it makes sense to focus on elections for now right? Or did i miss a slip of anyone? Further more, i do agree on the "good" players being fine candidates for mayor. I am however afraid that once they claim a mayor position, other veterans will start pingponging with him/them again and newer players get left out and important information gets lost in the roleplaying madness. Concerning Artocod running for mayor, i find the selection of the image for his election a daring one. I hope it's not a hidden message.
On December 13 2011 00:20 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +Well, we have two obvious candidates for mayor/pardoner. Myself, and Palmar/Syllo.
We're all three of us good players
We're all good at scum hunting
We all consistently get shot by mafia Night 1 and 2.
We are unlikely both mafia, and have decent reads on each other if one of us is scum.
The main benefit of the mayor and pardoner roles is the protection of the hidden bodyguard. With him alive, the elected roles can't be touched. As such it makes sense to use that protection to keep strong players alive, players who are likely to be targeted by mafia.
In PYPInsane myself and Mig were elected, two strong town players and we cruised to victory. In this game I recommend we do the same. Palmar, Syllogism and Myself all have the ability to be completely game changing if left alive long enough, elected roles does that.
Palmar and Syllo, maybe you guys weren't planning on running, but that would be foolish, and you guys aren't foolish.
Obviously I have no idea of Palmar/Syllos alignment, and everyone only has one vote, so please vote for me. However, Palmar/Syllo should most likely be in second place.
A vote for me is a vote for town victory. I don't see how it's a good plan to put you two(three) in those positions based on your statements and catchy phrases like "A vote for me is a vote for town victory". I rather put on of you in office and have the other "pro" fight for his spot round 2. That would give me more info then selecting our apparent two "pro players" to get the first two elected spots we have been given. It's just as equal to any other combo of mayor/pardonner of us all in this game. I never liked the use of statistics(and not factual numbers, say at the near end of a game) to prove ones innocence/town being. Show nested quote +Tagging your posts would actually be quite helpful. That goes for all the hydras. I do very much agree on that!
3. Plays the apologetic townie a bit (like Sheth)
4. Provides no real analysis, just a bunch of lists and pointing out obvious stuff and there. Suggested Liquid`Sheth was prob town.
My read on cascades is null to town
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