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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:05 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight. That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him.
Why do you think Dropbear is town?
Why do you think he is going to be an asset to town this game? So far his play has been very lacking.
You're right that it probably doesn't make sense for vigilantes to shoot tonight though. If you only have one bullet, and are not likely to get shot, it makes sense to save it for Night 2 or 3. However, if you have multiple bullets or have to shoot, he is a good target.
Mainly though I just wanted to see what syllo had to say. I expected him to say Dropbear, and I'm glad he did.
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Im rereading and trying to get a grip on what happened between the retreat of arctocod and the actual election, because i think that there must be some mafia influence there.
also arcto, why would you lynch me?
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On December 15 2011 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 03:05 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight. That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him. You know, mafia have potential to be of great use to town. Should we never vig mafia? Who is YOUR number-one vig target risk? Clearly you have an idea, or you wouldn't have insinuated yourself into the discussion...
I don't understand your first sentence.
Read my filter before you fos me.
If I were a vig I'd hit greymist.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Radfield / Arctocod Please take a little bit of time to read up on the Prplhz vs Zeks discussion on page 43-44. Do you think Zeks is someone we should pressure a bit, or not so much?
I don't actually see anything on page 44 between zeks and prplhz. There's really not much to their convo on pg 43 either.
As I said earlier though, I'm getting mixed messages on zeks. Some good points and some bad ones.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:17 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 15 2011 03:05 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight. That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him. You know, mafia have potential to be of great use to town. Should we never vig mafia? Who is YOUR number-one vig target risk? Clearly you have an idea, or you wouldn't have insinuated yourself into the discussion... I don't understand your first sentence. Read my filter before you fos me. If I were a vig I'd hit greymist.
Why would you kill Greymist? That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him.
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DTs please review the lists for Spaackle lynch and ProfessorBA election vote
Both bandwagons were put together insanely fast and have great candidates to check
Eiii would be a great check (been mentioned repeatedly by other players on his spotty play)
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Vatican City State258 Posts
risk. it's time for you to calm down. day1 trolling and letting scum decide what's going on is over now.
you should now get into rereading so you can share your best ideas just before the night ends.
we have 50 pages to analyze and that is great.
moreover we had some events (kidnap/lynch/election)..
go for it.
greymist, prplhz i encourage you two to do that, too.
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United States2095 Posts
@Radfield on page 44 he answers me quoting Prplhz's question. He never did answer the question. And if you look at his answers both times, they seemed different to me then a normal Zeks post. I realize I've seemingly been "stuck" on Zeks for a while, but please consider these points as if anyone else had suggested them. I'm trying to simply use logic and I think I've found a pretty good inconsistency.
Not at all trying to take away from your talk about Comp/Drop/Blood and the Vigil hit~
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On December 15 2011 02:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 23:48 Arctocod wrote:On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes For the love of god. If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play. Real nice. Like, it's a wonder new people play here at all with vets who actively attempt to prevent people from enjoying games they join. Fuck this, Fuck you. I don't care if it was Syllo or Palmar who posted this, it's unacceptable and you should get a ban for it. You're fucking vets, people fucking listen to you. If I die overnight because of your stupid bullshit, I'm seriously never fucking playing here again.
I like most new people. I actually go out of my way to get new people involved.
I dislike playing with people who actively sabotage games they're in. Until your town play becomes good enough to hold you accountable for doing stupid stuff, it's simply not fun playing with you. There is no way to figure you out when you're mafia because you cannot be lynched for being wrong, because you're almost always wrong as town too.
It's annoying because simply having you in the game decreases town's chance of winning, regardless of your alignment. But, I am going to completely stop being a dick to you for now, and since that outburst looked pretty townie to me, I'm going to assume you're town. Please change my opinion of you.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
zeks, I think those lists you put together are simply a list of the players who were active in the last two hours of the day. Basing our actions on them is a bad idea in my opinion.
I would prefer players go off who they think is scummy based on posting, not voting. At least for tonight.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 23:15 zeks wrote:
Lynch
Spaackle (11):
ProfessorBadass
Eiii
Refallen
-ProfessorBadass
Radfield
xsksc
GreYMisT
evantrees
ProfessorBadass
Liquid`Sheth
nyczbrandon
risk.nuke
MrZentor
Election ProfessorBadass (7):
GreYMisT
xsksc
prplhz
GiygaS
-GiygaS
GiygaS
Eiii
Refallen
Radfield
For potential dts:
GreyMist, xsksc, Eiii would be great checks for tonight
For any vigs:
And shoot Zentor cause his unlynchable claim reeks of bs
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United States2095 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:53 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:50 prplhz wrote:
@zeks
How did you go from "Nisani201 is a lurker" to "Nisani201 is town"? can the subset of lurkers not intersect with the subset of town players? what has he said that has seem overly scummy to you over another lurker like evantrees or refallen and why the hell have we jumped around 4 different candidates this late this is terrible
On December 14 2011 11:58 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:53 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Zeks, could you answer the question though please? I am merely comparing the situations in which who would give us more to work with the next day assuming both are dead townies
For those who don't feel like going through the pages I linked.
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On December 15 2011 03:16 MarserBlood wrote:
also arcto, why would you lynch me?
When did Arcto say that?
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You're the guys with double moral. You want to elect a good player despite alignment to keep them alive, the next thing you want to shoot dropbear because he hasn't done anything yet. That's a load of... ... ... and as far as I am concerned by beeing quiet dropbear atleast haven't caused town a ton of harm like radfield. You didn't even comment on what you thought of me running to keep it out of scumhands. wtf was that. I mean you should atleast have said what you thought of it, good idea, bad idea, something but the fact that you just ignored it and told everyone to vote the professors makes me so damn uneasy on you and it's by far the scummiest thing I think you did last night.
And greymist as far as I am aware is just decent at mafia, plain average. And if I were a vig I'd vig the one I have get mountainhigh scumchills on without hesitation.
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On December 15 2011 03:16 MarserBlood wrote:
Im rereading and trying to get a grip on what happened between the retreat of arctocod and the actual election, because i think that there must be some mafia influence there.
also arcto, why would you lynch me?
I wouldn't lynch you, I would vigi you. The issue is that you aren't posting enough and your style is making it quite difficult to read you. I'm also not familiar with your playstyle at all, since you subbed into XLVII when the game was pretty much over. The fact you are here right now is helping.
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On December 15 2011 03:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Radfield on page 44 he answers me quoting Prplhz's question. He never did answer the question. And if you look at his answers both times, they seemed different to me then a normal Zeks post. I realize I've seemingly been "stuck" on Zeks for a while, but please consider these points as if anyone else had suggested them. I'm trying to simply use logic and I think I've found a pretty good inconsistency.
Not at all trying to take away from your talk about Comp/Drop/Blood and the Vigil hit~
Shit, what do you want from me.
me
Times up for my vote and I promised Id vote for one of the top 2
MrZentor vs Nisani
I have decided to vote for MrZentor
Even if this shines badly on me I will do it because out of the two, Nisani is a lurker and there are better lurker candidates out there
Zentor's unlynchable claim seems like a last ditch effort to me. Even if he lives tonight he obviously won't get shot by scum just because he's always suspicious and he's no contributor.
I'm going to step up and challenge him on his claim and vote him. IF he dies and flips town whatever at least he'll give us more to work on than a dead town nisani will
prplhz
@zeks
How did you go from "Nisani201 is a lurker" to "Nisani201 is town"?
me
I am merely comparing the situations in which who would give us more to work with the next day assuming both are dead townies
I said IF Zentor dies and flips town, thats not as bad as NISANI dying and flipping town do you get what I'm saying now
You're working off of nothing Sheth
If you really want to study the consistency of my posts you might as well go even further back to XLVII where I was scum, and games Ive played years ago and see how I've acted as town
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United States2095 Posts
@Zeks sense your active now, would you care to explain the reason when asked "How did you go from 'Nisani201 is a lurker' to 'Nisani201 is town'?" you replied with no answer.
Then when asked a second time, you answer that you were "merely comparing the situations in which you would give us more to work with the next day assuming both are dead townies". I don't believe either of these answered the question and the second time doesn't seem to make sense to me either. After you answer these, do you still think Nisani is town?
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On a question from radfield who to shoot:
On December 15 2011 02:58 Arctocod wrote:
Probably Comprissent/Marserblood or Dropbear. Dropbear disappeared completely once the pressure was off and last time appeared quite quickly after being called out
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United States2095 Posts
EBWOP He answered me before I posted.
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On December 15 2011 03:32 MarserBlood wrote:On a question from radfield who to shoot: Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 02:58 Arctocod wrote:
Probably Comprissent/Marserblood or Dropbear. Dropbear disappeared completely once the pressure was off and last time appeared quite quickly after being called out
I believe that was vig, not lynch.
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Sheth you ask an overwhelming amount of questions and reasoning for seemingly everything and if I don't answer in an allotted time thats supposed to be a scum tell
I understand you probably have some bad blood against me just cause I built a long case on you a while back but go filter me and you'll see I've been pro town the whole time with nothing to hide
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