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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:48 prplhz wrote: @risk.nuke Why do you think that medics should focus on Arctocod, you and DropBear. Why do you think DropBear is worth protecting, he's been useless so far. And you haven't been too impressive either as you acknowledge yourself. Why do you even think we have three medics, that would be hilariously OP combined with the elected officials. I think it's unlikely we have more than one medic, but no matter what, if people have a way to protect Arctocod then they are going to do it. NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EXCUSES. If Arctocod dies tonight and later some medic claims to have protected the friendly neighborhood Balrog day1 because he "had a good feeling about him", then that medic dies. I think medics are pretty bad on this forum, so they need to have this explained to them with a sledge hammer. Arctocod is a good scum hunter, and he's active, and we have no reason to believe that he's scum yet. Protect him. 26 player game, there is no telling how many protection roles we have but you're missing the mainpoint, if medics will be focusing on 3 people most likely mafia wont be willing to risk going after anyone of us. this is pretty basic. As for me, I am town and if I don't get medic protection or atleast mafia belives there is a chance i am protected and aren't willing to gamble a kp on me I will ket killed tonight. Mafia isn't as slow as town, they know it's just a matter of time before I convince you I am town, it will save them alot of trouble to get rid of me now before I have proven myself town and will have protection. I think for a 26 man game with we'll have atleast 3 protective roles very possibly more, but I don't know what the blue roles look like. we might have something else to compensate but that doesn't matter. The important part is mafia don't know either and we can discourage them from going after either one of us 3. Why dropbear. He's a good player, and I don't think he is scum. He will likely prove his worth if he lives. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:53 Arctocod wrote: I approve of explaining with sledgehammers. Who do you want sledged in the face? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:01 Arctocod wrote: @Radfield These are your only mentions of Spacckle, that aren't just agreeing with other people, telling town to lynch him, or linking to his filter. I guess you also said one of his analysis was "scummy" without elaborating further at some point during the day. Do you really think that's a better case than this: + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2011 09:22 Arctocod wrote: So yeah, Syllo went to sleep like 2 hours ago, we came up with both the ideas of pressuring Sheth and DropBear during the day, but both players seemed to respond in a way that wasn't conclusively scum. I also think the case against MrZentor is kinda weak, as is the case against Zeks. Just little things like MrZentor's brutal honesty about "having to make 2 posts" and Zeks's willingness to aggressively attack people's skills. It doesn't prove that they're town, but it makes it less likely they're scum. We simply could not reach a conclusive case on anyone as scum today. So we're going with the next best thing, vote someone who doesn't look like he's town, and I don't believe will contribute to the game. I'm going to stick our vote for the day on Nisani201 Here's a link to his filter: Clicky There are multiple reasons for him being the choice. First off, there is nothing in his filter that's distinctly town. There is nothing that makes me go "hmmm... that does like kinda town-like". That's always the first thing to look for. However, he is being kinda lurkery today, he's provided very little content of any value. He does seem to be less of a dick than he usually is as town, He seems to not have a strong opinion on whom to vote today as can be seen this post: Lynching for information is a common misconception, we always attempt to lynch scum. Based on Nisani's history as town, he increases scum's chance of winning the game regardless of his alignment, he does stupid shit as town, and thus gets away with stupid shit as scum. I cannot conclusively prove he's scum, but I think he's by far the most viable lynch we have at the moment. ##Vote Nisani201 Do you honestly think that those two mentions of spaackle from your filter are enough to answer my question of why you chose Spaackle as the lynch target? I spent a considerable amount of time reading the thread. I mean, maybe in your world this is enough of an explanation for your actions, but I would like to see something more. I'm going to give you this though, you did mention you agreed with this point: But do you really think that changing his mind makes him scum? Whatever, I'm not lynching you tomorrow, I just hate your current apathetic play. /Palmar You're case on Nisani was just a policy lynch. I did honestly feel like we could do better. I agree that there is nothing in Nisani's filter that screams town, but there is nothing scummy either. Theres just nothing. I've never played with Nisani before, and multiple people were stating his play has shown signs of improvement. It just seemed like a waste. Spaackle on the other hand rubbed me the wrong way from his first analysis post on Nisani and Jitsu(?). Then him flip flopping on Nisani sealed the deal. Originally I preferred evantrees or refallen, but spaackle did in fact contradict himself. He originally had Nisani's posting down as town, and then referred to his posting as looking a bit scummy. It wasn't much. but it was something. Of course changing your mind doesn't make you scummy, but changing it when no further info has presented itself, and town opinion has swung the other way does get you scumpoints. I'm not trying to be apathetic, but I've felt a little lost the last couple day 1's so I'm not going to make a big deal out of a mislynch. I excel on day 2.5 and beyond, and thats what I want to do this game as well. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:02 risk.nuke wrote: 26 player game, there is no telling how many protection roles we have but you're missing the mainpoint, if medics will be focusing on 3 people most likely mafia wont be willing to risk going after anyone of us. this is pretty basic. As for me, I am town and if I don't get medic protection or atleast mafia belives there is a chance i am protected and aren't willing to gamble a kp on me I will ket killed tonight. Mafia isn't as slow as town, they know it's just a matter of time before I convince you I am town, it will save them alot of trouble to get rid of me now before I have proven myself town and will have protection. I think for a 26 man game with we'll have atleast 3 protective roles very possibly more, but I don't know what the blue roles look like. we might have something else to compensate but that doesn't matter. The important part is mafia don't know either and we can discourage them from going after either one of us 3. Why dropbear. He's a good player, and I don't think he is scum. He will likely prove his worth if he lives. No, if you tell the medics to protect among those three, they doublestack arcto and pick off someone else like greymist/duesex/prplhz. That is not a situation we want. I appreciate that it sucks to unWIFOM our medics, but they need to protect arctocod tonight. The likelihood of 3 protective roles when we already have 2 unkillable players(mayor+pardoner) seems very unlikely. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:02 risk.nuke wrote: 26 player game, there is no telling how many protection roles we have but you're missing the mainpoint, if medics will be focusing on 3 people most likely mafia wont be willing to risk going after anyone of us. this is pretty basic. As for me, I am town and if I don't get medic protection or atleast mafia belives there is a chance i am protected and aren't willing to gamble a kp on me I will ket killed tonight. Mafia isn't as slow as town, they know it's just a matter of time before I convince you I am town, it will save them alot of trouble to get rid of me now before I have proven myself town and will have protection. I think for a 26 man game with we'll have atleast 3 protective roles very possibly more, but I don't know what the blue roles look like. we might have something else to compensate but that doesn't matter. The important part is mafia don't know either and we can discourage them from going after either one of us 3. Why dropbear. He's a good player, and I don't think he is scum. He will likely prove his worth if he lives. LOL!!! risk sorry. but you are the last player in dis game right now i would kill if i were scum hahahahahaha hilarious!!! | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Comprissent
United States314 Posts
Only comment I have for now is for Radfield, if you keep assuring us your first few days are never good, why should we listen to your opinions on lynching targets? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:21 Comprissent wrote: Back from another final, going to sleep again lest i throw up again :S Only comment I have for now is for Radfield, if you keep assuring us your first few days are never good, why should we listen to your opinions on lynching targets? You don't listen to a guy, you listen to an opinion. Your vote, your fault, there's no blaming Radfield here. Every townie should want to be listened to, is this weird to you or do you want people to just ignore you? You have been sketchy ever since your "I don't see the biggie in leaving Pardoner for an inexperienced player" idea. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:15 risk.nuke wrote: Say what you will but I've forced more reactions out of people then most of you combined. no you didnt. but at least i have a townread on you right now. although i think most of your calls have been wrong this game. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
Hello Eiii prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind. you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote: Hello Eiii prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind. you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal. Does it make sense to you that 3 different players are claiming to have sent you a package? | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
BAD RADFIELD! | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
However presumably that means one of either Gigyas or Jitsu is lying, yet you don't seem bothered by it. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:52 Palmar wrote: Almost there, maybe you'll get it on one more re-read Bleh.. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 14 2011 15:41 Arctocod wrote: Also, I received a PM from the host. I need some of you to believably pretend to know what it is about and answer to this post so that whoever is the cause of the PM can reveal himself to me. If you are it, be specific enough. On December 14 2011 15:42 GiygaS wrote: Hey, if you trust me: open the package, it is a message. Someone explain to me what this is all about? Am I supposed to know? | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:26 prplhz wrote: @GiygaS, Jitsu Did you guys have anything to do with the withdrawal? No. I had nothing to do with the withdrawal. For the record, I think if we run into the same situation next time, we should manipulate the votes in such a way so that the 'withdrawn' player still has the second most votes, and our alternate vote is 3rd in the line. That way, if the post is simply shadow games, our desired number two pick is still selected, with a backup ready in the wings in case it's not. I will echo my previous sentiments on Comprissent. He came in and did a good amount of voting at the end of the day phase, yet still has terrible posts and really doesn't seem to be contributing anything except another vote. I know you got Finals man. I do too. As for others, going to look thru filters now. | ||
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