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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
Radfield, you know just as well as I do that pushing a lynch onto a townie that seems to be active is much more terrible than going after a lurker. Also, what's with the preference in one lurker over another? At least we gave explanations for that. Did you intentionally or accidentally ignore my point that he looked pretty town? Did you not agree with it? What was the reasoning for pushing his lynch over for example nisani? /Palmar | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:30 Arctocod wrote: From now on, you just do whatever we tell you to do. It's not like anyone ever listens to me anyway.. | ||
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Refallen
452 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:49 Cwave wrote: Another weird event: Refallen votes Spaackle outside of the vote deadline. But he also voted twice for Spaackle. Refallen Vote Filter Care to explain Refallen? Are you paying attention or did your scummy friends tell you to go for Spaackle and you forgot you had voted before? Was speed reading through the thread and panicked I guess. Don't see how that makes me scum. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:33 Arctocod wrote: Shut up syllo, you're soft. Radfield, you know just as well as I do that pushing a lynch onto a townie that seems to be active is much more terrible than going after a lurker. Also, what's with the preference in one lurker over another? At least we gave explanations for that. Did you intentionally or accidentally ignore my point that he looked pretty town? Did you not agree with it? What was the reasoning for pushing his lynch over for example nisani? /Palmar Read the thread Palmar. it's all there  If you actually want an answer ask me a question that I can't just quote a post of mine. I really like these split personalities though. Why are you trying to make me draw heat here? I didn't lose any sleep over lynching spaackle, and I'm sure you didn't either. Sucks that he was a politician, but that role is not even particularly good in most townies hands. Far to easy to cause damage if your reads are off. Do you think I am scummy Palmar? Do you think there's a reasonable chance that that's how I would've played Day 1 if I was scum? You guys are the vaunted day 1 scumhunters, so tell me who is scum and stop spending your time cutting me down. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote: Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes For the love of god. If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
so awesome. So VE, what do you think of Arctocod? | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
/syllogism | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:56 Arctocod wrote: For the record Radfield, I've never claimed to be a particularly good scum hunter, let alone day 1, it's more that most players in the current pool aren't very good. Just saying because you make it sound like I've been bragging. /syllogism True enough, but your record is pretty good for early catches, though not necessarily Day 1. Let move on and find scum day 2. What are your thoughts on zeks. Reading his filter I get mixed messages. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:17 Radfield wrote: Looking at evantrees filter I would be ok lynching him. Same with Spaackle, though he has made more posts, and still seems scummy, so I would lean Spaackle over evantrees. On December 14 2011 11:55 Radfield wrote: Well, spackle should be getting lynched right now. That's certainly superior to Zentor and mildly better than nisani. These are your only mentions of Spacckle, that aren't just agreeing with other people, telling town to lynch him, or linking to his filter. I guess you also said one of his analysis was "scummy" without elaborating further at some point during the day. Do you really think that's a better case than this: + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2011 09:22 Arctocod wrote: So yeah, Syllo went to sleep like 2 hours ago, we came up with both the ideas of pressuring Sheth and DropBear during the day, but both players seemed to respond in a way that wasn't conclusively scum. I also think the case against MrZentor is kinda weak, as is the case against Zeks. Just little things like MrZentor's brutal honesty about "having to make 2 posts" and Zeks's willingness to aggressively attack people's skills. It doesn't prove that they're town, but it makes it less likely they're scum. We simply could not reach a conclusive case on anyone as scum today. So we're going with the next best thing, vote someone who doesn't look like he's town, and I don't believe will contribute to the game. I'm going to stick our vote for the day on Nisani201 Here's a link to his filter: Clicky There are multiple reasons for him being the choice. First off, there is nothing in his filter that's distinctly town. There is nothing that makes me go "hmmm... that does like kinda town-like". That's always the first thing to look for. However, he is being kinda lurkery today, he's provided very little content of any value. He does seem to be less of a dick than he usually is as town, He seems to not have a strong opinion on whom to vote today as can be seen this post: Lynching for information is a common misconception, we always attempt to lynch scum. Based on Nisani's history as town, he increases scum's chance of winning the game regardless of his alignment, he does stupid shit as town, and thus gets away with stupid shit as scum. I cannot conclusively prove he's scum, but I think he's by far the most viable lynch we have at the moment. ##Vote Nisani201 Do you honestly think that those two mentions of spaackle from your filter are enough to answer my question of why you chose Spaackle as the lynch target? I spent a considerable amount of time reading the thread. I mean, maybe in your world this is enough of an explanation for your actions, but I would like to see something more. I'm going to give you this though, you did mention you agreed with this point: On December 14 2011 11:45 ProfessorBadass wrote: @Radfield If you don't like risk consider this: Two vastly contradicting opinions when the only thing that has changed is Town sentiment towards Nisani. I'm not a fan of lynching lurkers unless they've proven time and time again they're absolutely worthless players and they all look the damn same. But do you really think that changing his mind makes him scum? Whatever, I'm not lynching you tomorrow, I just hate your current apathetic play. /Palmar | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:52 risk.nuke wrote: I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either. Why are you so bad now? You're somtimes good? | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:08 GiygaS wrote: Arctocod, are you going to do anything with the info? Obviously every piece of information can prove useful in due time, we'll see | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:11 Arctocod wrote: Why are you so bad now? You're somtimes good? As I said, I was terrible last night and I am sorry. Now I'm just trying to explain how my train of thoughts went last night. I don't think ViceraEyes is mafia, he was the instant bandwagon target after MrZentor. I know he was brought up before that but if he was mafia I think they would had stopped it. Arctocod reread what happend last night between Your withdrawal post and the nightpost, focus on Radfield and tell me what you think of his actions and consider Radfield was a person who had the entire town in his palm and he knew at anytime he could influenced anything to happen. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:45 Eiii wrote: I'm going to bed now and will gladly discuss this more in the morning, but giygas feels a lot more to me like inexperienced townie than actual scum. I mean, his immediate latching on to LAL, his idea on how pardoner should work that almost seems sane at first glance... I agree that he's not significantly contributing, but given that he's only played one game other than this one and has clearly demonstrated that he's willing to post and speak his mind, I think he would be a poor lynch for today. You mention 201 though-- I *do* expect more out of him than what he's put out, since he's been around for a while. On December 14 2011 11:32 Eiii wrote: oh man I address sheth just as he addresses me I think removing Eiii is an awful idea! And I don't think 201 is scummy because he straight-up hasn't done anything scummy. He hasn't contributed, sure, and he's lurked a lot-- but if he hasn't developed significantly as a player since I last played with him, that is exactly what I would expect him to do as town. We have better targets to lynch today than a lurking townie. Why the blatant contradiction? Nisani201 didn't do ANYTHING in between these two posts. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:19 Cwave wrote: Also one of the reason MrZentor lives at the expense of Spaackle. That's all you needed for last minute switching to Spaackle, Greymist? MrZentor also hard claimed blue, it would be stupid to kill him day1. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I think it's unlikely we have more than one medic, but no matter what, if people have a way to protect Arctocod then they are going to do it. NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EXCUSES. If Arctocod dies tonight and later some medic claims to have protected the friendly neighborhood Balrog day1 because he "had a good feeling about him", then that medic dies. I think medics are pretty bad on this forum, so they need to have this explained to them with a sledge hammer. Arctocod is a good scum hunter, and he's active, and we have no reason to believe that he's scum yet. Protect him. | ||
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Arctocod
Norway251 Posts
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