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zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 15:09 GMT
#1938
Okay thanks for clearing that up I need to re-read how his power works
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 17:54 GMT
#1942
Watcher is to watch Radfield today

Radfield when you get roleblocked are you notified that you are roleblocked for the day and night

Or every one-period you get notified you are roleblocked?
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#1945
No Radfield is getting watched no matter what

Case 1: Radfield is roleblocked
Watcher finds the roleblocker

Case 2: Radfield is not roleblocked
Radfield can medic someone

Case 3: Radfield is scum (however unlikely)
We will know from the watch

Case 4: Radfield is hit
Watcher will know who hit him

The watcher is the key to keeping Radfield tonight

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 18:40 GMT
#1951
On December 20 2011 03:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Its all about the trade off. Your trading a Watch for a Medic save.
I think its definetly more important to have the watch used wisely and if we say its "For sure going to be on Radfield" well we've wasted our watch for a save. If we think Radfield is scum, we shouldn't have given him the medic power to start with so Case 3 is just bad.

And in case 4, I geuss thats why we say for the Watcher to choose one out of a small pool, such as Radfield and whoever we elect. This in effect can save them all. Its definetly smarter to not just say "Were using it on Radfield!" when we can do so much more with it -_-


Who do YOU suggest we watch then?

There is a place and time to WIFOM but it is not now so don't get all fancy with your supposed pro-town plan. Stop thinking you'll confuse the scum with your stupid plan because it won't. It is clear who will get hit tonight given we don't watch Radfield. We lost a DT and several blues already - who do you think scum is going to hunt now? Clearly the logical posters. Did the WIFOM yesterday save both Arc and Rad? Clearly not.

Arc flipped town and he was highly suspicious of you. Your posting has been terrible this entire game - being on the fence the whole time then suddenly coming to ProfBA's defense. You should be up there with GreyMist on the chopping block today

It is very likely Arc got double stacked last night. Rad did not claim a hit, no one else has so far - and I assume no one will. Tonight Rad will get double stacked / hit if he is not watched.

The watcher is going to be DEUS so he's not going to watch himself. You watch anyone else and its a shot in the dark that you'll get anything - and if he does get something it'll just be confusing information (random blues doing random shit who knows)

If we have the watcher watch one of either Radfield / Deus , we can figure out one of their alignments for sure, and we can save them both.


What kind of logic is that





"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#1954
Radfield still might die anyway - but that is a scenario I don't want to venture into

For all the marbles DEUS better be town
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 19:12 GMT
#1957
On December 20 2011 04:06 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 03:11 zeks wrote:
No Radfield is getting watched no matter what

Case 1: Radfield is roleblocked
Watcher finds the roleblocker

Case 2: Radfield is not roleblocked
Radfield can medic someone

Case 3: Radfield is scum (however unlikely)
We will know from the watch

Case 4: Radfield is hit
Watcher will know who hit him

The watcher is the key to keeping Radfield tonight



Can you explain how #3 would occur? Cause all a watch does is check who visits the target.


I am incorrect I made the assumption of an all-in-one tracker/watcher

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#2013
sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 23:28 GMT
#2018
On December 20 2011 07:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:43 MrZentor wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:16 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Please do. Prompt Prompt.


I have to go for a while and will be way too tired when I get back to explain in full, so I will summarize quickly and try to get the full report tomorrow.

Grey led the town to elect PBA. He hasn't really helped the town at all. He has committed several mistakes(such as thinking secretary of defense was a public role check) that led to time being wasted explaining his mistake to him. This all makes him pretty suspicious.

You look pretty suspicious, because you seem to be illogical(not that I am) and tried to defend the godfather without any real reason. Now you are defending Grey, and it seems you don't have any real reasons behind your thoughts.

This means if Grey flips scum, it will confirm that you are a scum and should be lynched.
If Grey flips town, it will make you seem a less guilty.

We could kill you, but Grey seems more suspicious; I don't think we have a good enough case for your death.

Yet.


I think electing PBA was the obvious smart move, I dont see how that can make someone scum. Maybe TNTP or Deus would have been elected if they were posting at all then, but I dont think they were.

I defended ProfBA because there was no real logic behind the claim that he was mafia it was just "errandor doesn't post when hes mafia" and a few other points that were correct, but really impossible to know without having played plenty of games with erran/curu I geuss. So I don't see how Grey or myself should have known this was true.

And whether or not Grey flips scum shouldn't confirm I am scum or that I'm less guilty. I just want to use logic and I think MarserBlood (jj2a or somethingw now), Comprissent, Cascades and whoever else aren't posting at all and check them for scum. Nycz or w/e too. I'm really unhappy with how Cascades looks atm and would love to hear Radfields or Jj2a's oppinions on his filter. I'm not happy with linching Greymist today.


Its not that theres no real logic, you're just not reading or comprehending any of it

ProfBA's lynch was not completely on meta

First of all him coming out of the woodworks and asking for pardoner position at a perfect timing after Arc got taken out should've been an indication to you

The fact that he gave up so easily and played the frustrated townie is another indication

The fact that he has barely contributed to any town discussion is an indication

You can take meta for what its worth and sometimes you should trust the vets

Do we really need to spell it out for you ? If you thought there was no logic behind the claim that he's mafia you think we got him on luck?


"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 23:29 GMT
#2019
On December 20 2011 08:27 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 08:17 zeks wrote:
sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl


is something stopping you? Your post implies that you believe he is town and just saying scummy things in your eyes. is this true?


Precisely

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 23:32 GMT
#2020
On December 16 2011 10:33 GreYMisT wrote:
The best defense is helping scumhunt, you are right in that we dont want to hear random comments unless they help us find scum.


Would like to see that from you

An extensive, detailed case on the person you would lynch tonight
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 19 2011 23:53 GMT
#2028
On December 20 2011 08:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I thought zeks was town before you did.
/hipster


-_- you hated me for the longest time
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 01:58 GMT
#2063
Unvoted for now for the medic claim

Any medics are to come out and counter claim NOW

Be back in a couple of hours

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 02:03 GMT
#2066
You and Radfield are free to protect whoever
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 04:14 GMT
#2077
On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:

So, the vote list for ProfessorBadass as Pardoner. Seems highly unlikely to me that there would be zero scum on this wagon. I would in fact think scum would get on early to try and jolt it into action.

GreYMisT
xsksc,
prplhz,

GiygaS,
Eiii,
Refallen,
Radfield

Assuming you believe me to be town(and apparantly green?!) where does that leave us?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum



So that leaves Refallen in the list

He has barely posted anything of content throughout this whole game - been a lurker for most of it

His worst post is probably this:
On December 17 2011 02:20 Refallen wrote:
When are we ever going to be lynching Arcto or Giygas?



Explained his timing issues - always active during lynch times, says he's busy etc. However his first post before game ever started he said he's free pretty much 14-15 hours a day..but okay shit comes up in life w/e
On December 06 2011 15:00 Refallen wrote:
Can I /in too? I'm playing in XLVIII atm but since it's school holidays for me I really am free pretty much 14-15 hours a day.


Funny thing he says:
On December 14 2011 12:01 Refallen wrote:
Also comprissent you formatted your vote wrongly.


On December 19 2011 19:19 Refallen wrote:
Also, evantrees you need to stop nitpicking on minor issues like vote formatting. Lastly, we really shouldn't be discussing modkills here. What's the point of that?
For now, I'm leaning towards lynching Greymist.


Nothing much to work on. He's posted mostly fluff for his limited activity which is almost always a scum tell

Obviously the biggest thing that strikes out at me is that he's the only one left on that list (barring any counter claims to GreyMist in the future)




"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#2108
Good morning all

I would like election votes to be cast ASAP so we have a better picture of what to do at night

Afaik tonight it is to be Deus / risk.nuke

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 16:48 GMT
#2126
On December 21 2011 01:39 Refallen wrote:
I voted for curu...and then repeatedly pointed out how weird the whole situation was and tried to get him lynched, way before any bandwagon on him started forming.


quote yourself saying that
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 16:49 GMT
#2127
On December 21 2011 01:47 risk.nuke wrote:
Cwave take your idiotic arse elshwhere and stop questioning or insulting me at every turn. I was going to check them, I never blindly trusts.

And knock of with the whole I voted for curu first. I don't care if you put a mini subpost somewhere on how curu might be scum. Mafia does that to eachothr all the time, also infact everyone at some point writes something small about everyone. You're all mistaking if you think that a little useless post against curu that accomplished nothing and means nothing will gain you more towncred depending on the time of it's posting.


Amen people are trying way too hard in associating themselves with the successful lynch of ProfBA when in fact they did nothing
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#2131
On December 21 2011 02:02 evantrees wrote:
I'm the Public Service Announcer, so still a useless townie sorry. Had no good idea how to use the ability particularly when I figured scum had something similar as well, and yes missed my chance to call curu on it(same ability).
Ability seems good for lying to town not sure what else. Maybe could have tried to mess with the substitutes check how well they've been reading the thread?
"Please stay tuned to the following announcement:" followed by message, any preference on what you would like kita to post?


For formalities sake please prove to us your power by announcing something
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#2133
On December 21 2011 01:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 23:24 Radfield wrote:
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.

Greymist, you should claim in full as well.


I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.


Like I said if you insist I will claim in full, but please understand that what I am obscuring is only good for town, and that it hampers my ability to act in an elected position. Notice I did not run in any election as I normally do.


I am interested in knowing how it can hamper your ability to act as Watcher tonight. All you would have to do is watch Radfield
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#2136
On December 21 2011 02:28 MrZentor wrote:
I'd be glad to be elected as Watcher, as I am a confirmed townie, and my ability doesn't interfere with the watcher ability.


(if) GreyMist is medic we put him as Watcher so he's night-action-immune then we don't need Rad to medic him

We free up Rad's medic ability for someone else
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
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