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On December 15 2011 05:06 Arctocod wrote:
You running at that moment seems null to me, because you were also the natural replacement once we were removed and thus wouldn't really arouse suspicion. Being the pardoner makes you immune to DTs, denies town from having a NK immune player and you've an excuse for being alive later on. This doesn't look like your typical scum play though.
I figured he would've won pardoner anyway without formally running after you got thrown out
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On December 15 2011 05:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:05 zeks wrote:On December 15 2011 04:51 ProfessorBadass wrote:
zeks you are also a dumbass plain and simple. Do you really think Mafia would go balls out and orchestrate a last minute vote switch to get a Pardoner in office and a Townie lynched? Sacrifice all their members for a mislynch and an office when there's an election every day?
It's far more likely Mafia were just lying low during that whole debacle and seeing how things played out. Mafia hate being in the spotlight. calm the fuck down did i say they'd do it with all their members? im surprised you don't find any of this suspicious one single bit scum has done dumber shit than you think look at the whole fucking scum team stacking on Palmar/BC in XLVII okay you're going to be HEAVILY watched now who the hell has called you out other than me and Arc? Now that you got pardoner you should be expecting this shit Palmar don't be a dumbass. If I was scum there was no way I would have wanted to run for the election at the exact time when it would have looked the worst to run.
I'm not attacking you I'm asking you to go and read over the cases in a useful fashion instead of standing there making stupid statements and enabling all these dumbasses
calling someone a dumbass is not attacking them. okay. zeks. Go sit in the corner! (sorry dude, but your post isn't helpful, don't take anything in this game personal please. :D)
Sure w/e I'm spending way too much time here anyway when I should be working at work =|
Not sure if I'll be back before night actions
If I die tonight here's my top 2
Eiii
xsksc
ciao
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wow both my calls were off as shit i suck as town
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On December 15 2011 21:06 Jitsu wrote:
Somethings I would like to note on.
MrZentor claimed blue role yesterday, but never really came out and said what it was after it became "useless." Not sure what the role was/could have been, but when he was called on it, I think he just ignored the post and faded out?
I would like to see Arcto/GigyaS for the new selections. My reasoning? We are all pretty much aware that GigyaS is town, because of his role. The question was is Arcto playing the role of town up? It could be possible. I believe Arcto is town, at least right now. So at this point, they will be getting my two roles for elections.
From what has been said by Zentor it is suggested he was unlynchable only on day 1? Then he ignored my question
Arcto withdrawing from election is enough of a reason for me to feel he's town
Before that he was going to be pardoner uncontested if he were scum why would he need to pull a stunt like that?
GigyaS for his role should be town
All the surgeon general does is GRANT power to someone so all he gets is the ability to handpick a medic
Whereas secretary of defense sounds like it has bigger potential
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On December 16 2011 01:28 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town Mafia. Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next. I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke
Claims unlynchable day 1 and "useless" after that
Still has failed to answer my question about what his role name is
Half assed effort to run for a position to get a pardon
However I'll give you my vote today
not for election but for lynch
scum
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On December 16 2011 05:09 GreYMisT wrote:
While that is a "possible" explination sheth, It is far too prone to risks for a scum team to attempt. If what you are saying is true and arcto and giygas are scum, then they would be in an even better position now if they had just left arcto in office, and used the kp on a more active townie than Eii.
Now that MrZentor has been confirmed I would like to hear what Zeks has to say, he has been at MrZentor's throat for a while now.
If he had just come forward and said that then we wouldn't of had to go through that whole charade. I wouldn't put him as confirmed townie even though he used his skill when asked to.
He gets a pass for now. No need for medic protection or role for election. He's not a scumhunter so theres no target on his back.
Knowing that Arc got outed from election why did Zentor not use his ability right away to extend? Furthermore he was on the chopping block so I really fail to see the reason to not use it in that situation.
@Sheth that kind of a stunt seems too complex for anyone to pull and way too many assumptions in your hypothesis
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On December 16 2011 05:56 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Ok, as I'm reading through everyones filter I want to bring up two points that haven't been brought up yet.
I think theres a chance mafia can mess with our Lynch like they messed with our Election. So I'd like to have a backup lynch discussion as well.
Secondly I think we need a third person who we would vote in, in case Mafia can remove one election candidate again.
I geuss as another point, bumatlarge please do what VisceraEyes did; re-read what you can when you can and comment on what you think about it.
Agree with you on needing a third person
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@risk any pardoner would know better than to pardon anyone at this point as the consequences are auto lynch
i'm all for a profBA lynch i've been at him since arc got outed as pardoner
however i would like to see how far this wagon will go when it comes down to crunch time (1-2 hours before the lynch) before i place my vote
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On December 17 2011 04:08 Curu wrote:
No I'm done. I really don't care. I'm not posting anything anymore either way so just kill me and get it over with.
I'm pulling a Palmar.
LOL
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On December 18 2011 07:20 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 06:55 MrZentor wrote:On December 18 2011 06:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
but you aren't confirmed :-[ Using a role that helps the town for all to see isn't confirmed? You're town. Lets not argue about this more, it's a pro town abillity. The host cant be so crual as to give that to mafia, it would be unfairly crual. You've done things like you not use your abillity when arctocod was withdrawn and town was in panic. Since I don't think even the slightest that you are scum your behavior isn't scummy but just newbie play. And even though you're town you're also confirmed green throw in that a medic just might choose to protect you because you are confirmed town. This combined equals you're not an as attractive target as you belive.
Explain how his power is pro town
Sure extended day = more time for town to think over their lynches thus it may seem its a pro town ability
But the power I think is somewhat similar to a pardon given that a scum was on the chopping block, the user can possibly give that scum more time to clear himself
MrZentor had no choice but to use his power to prove he wasn't lying per Arctocods request
MrZentor is not confirmed period
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dropbear got picked as GF?
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On December 18 2011 13:35 evantrees wrote:
Nice job VisceraEyes and hmm one sub killed the other.
Debated not posting this due to the complaints but eh whatever.
Why no vote for the election Comprissent, Zeks , and MarserBlood?
and Cascades you messed up the format.
Also no lynch vote from MarserBlood and risk.nuke.
Are you even trying ? clearly both Comprissent and I voted
And you call Cascades out for format? Seriously?
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On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:Damn, I was writing up a post with the pertinent quote of ProfBad, but somehow lost it. It wasn't particularly useful anyways, so I'll just write the coles notes version instead: * risk.nuke is likely town, simply due to the energy that ProfBad put into discrediting him, and trying to get him lynched. * ProfBad made 2 real cases, both in the same post, on risk.nuke and cwave. However the case on Cwave is pretty weak, and he never mentions him again to my knowledge. * Prof is willing to bus his teammates, as he consistently calls out Dropbear(Bum-GF) early game. However calling out the godfather is pretty common scum-play, as you want to encourage enough suspicion to draw DT checks. *Calls out nyczbrandon's posts a couple times, but writes them off as bad townie. * Fights against Dues-ex for mayor position, argues over a few other things as well. Added with a few other things, Dues is likely town. * Zeks also looks better based on his interactions with ProfBad. Basically calling out the pardoner push as scum driven, and ProfBad calling him a dumbass  Bum basically said very little, but posted his suspicions against both evantrees and refallen. However he quickly retracted his suspicion against Refallen, but it was done in such a way that Refallen may be town. Not sure yet. So, the vote list for ProfessorBadass as Pardoner. Seems highly unlikely to me that there would be zero scum on this wagon. I would in fact think scum would get on early to try and jolt it into action. GreYMisT, xsksc,
prplhz,GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, RadfieldAssuming you believe me to be town(and apparantly green?!) where does that leave us? + Show Spoiler +I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum
I'd totally be down to shoot both GreYMisT and Refallen
Throughout the whole game risk.nuke has called GreyMist out to be scum and several people have attacked risk.nuke for various things but he makes good points now and then
On GreyMist
He was the first to vote for ProfBA to be replacement pardoner
When I had assumed Arc was silenced he replied: "We don't know for sure if the ability includes a silence, don't assume things." Seems weird for him to say that as Arc not being active in the hours before lynch is suspicious in itself. He implied the ability doesn't include a silence which was actually the case (Arc was afk)
Considers Zentor of all people for election
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next.
poor logic?
"If he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one" - day 1 is over how do we go back and verify that.
Note that MrZentor EXTRAPOLATED/EXAGGERATED his ability in saying he was unlynchable - turns out his skill was just extending day in which he could've been lynched after the 24 hours anyway. By no means was he unlynchable.
Other than GreyMist I seriously think we should out Zentor
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Radfield do you have Arc's filter
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On December 19 2011 15:31 GiygaS wrote:Yeah I gave it to Radfield if you couldn't tell. I was most sure he was a townie, didn't think the day roleblocker could roleblock in the night too. 
You gave it to Radfield so now you're completely banking on the fact that we have medics to save him now from this point on
And the fact that he's perma role blocked pretty much.
Posts from GiygaS regarding medic situation last night:
I'm giving the temp medics job is to save me and Arc tonight, so that the other medics can focus on Radfield/Zentor? Any objections?
Also @ the medic thing: I'll get him to protect Arc, It won't really hurt the town if I die.
I'm sending a medic now. I want him to protect Arc, I don't care if I die, as I'm not contributing much anyway .
BTW I believe the other medics should try to defend Rad.
I'm thinking that who I gave the medic role to either A) Forgot or B) is Mafia. I told them in my posts expressively to protect Arc. *facepalm*
My gut says you're just a stupid townie that made a terrible move last night. In fact giving medic power to Radfield is probably the next worst thing to giving it to scum cause you know he's not going to be able to use it and he's going to be double stacked before he actually can use it. I was disgusted at this and thought it was real scummy
For today make sure the people elected KNOW how to use their power before giving it to them.
Something else that concerns me is that you assumed the person you gave the medic role to (RADFIELD) forgot to send in night action or is scum. Why did you make that assumption? Explain yourself
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I want to lynch GreyMist
I am 110% certain at least one of GreyMist, GiygaS, Refallen are scum
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I am okay with Deus / risk election today also
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A thought:
Don't know if this is just the set up by kita or what but I remember Zentor claiming Floridian but his power was extending day
If I remember correctly the role Floridian gives the user an extra vote? Kind of find his role name claim fishy but again in a closed setup maybe kita modified it
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Radfield what do you think of the situation of GiygaS giving you medic power?
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