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Now lets look at a quick timeline of stuff he's done: 1. Ran for mayor immediately after game starts He's one of the first people to run for mayor but drops out rather quickly without challenging the other candidates. For a completely new player to immediately run for mayor practically right after game starts seems fishy. After Rad/Arc campaigns gain steam he drops out silently because he knows he has no way of winning. 2. On December 12 2011 12:28 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Its very important we get these two positions filled up by people who are 100% not mafia. This can be tough obviously. So I think its obvious we want someone who is willing to write a lot in order to be one of these. Implying people who write a lot are not mafia? Terrible logic Note that he writes big blocks to try to fit his own category. 3. Claims he hasn't read any past games On December 14 2011 05:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I have not zeks :[ I havn't had anytime sadly. I've looked at a small part of a few before this one, but I've been trying to filter people here, fix my computer and keep up on SC2 related things. Its pretty time consuming. Not to mention that I'm at my families house and should visit with them as well >< Yet it seems fishy that he does know some stuff about past games... Why would it be devastating to have Radfield/Arctocod in office if they're both scum? The Mayor's role isn't really that powerful, and PYP:I was won without the Pardoner stopping a single lynch, and if the Pardoner stops a lynch without a huge reasonable then he's autolynch the next day. Wouldn't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town?" Correct me if I'm wrong is sheepycat someone in a past game? There is no way to figure out if someone is "100%" mafia either. Oh percentages, how I hate sheepycat or w/e his name is for over using them on EVERY single read he ever had. And what do you mean theres only one way to get confirmed and that way kinda prevents people from getting elected afterwards? I honestly just don't know.... 4. People have called me out for saying "my 6th sense says one hydra is scum" - and used that in a case against me. What about Sheth? He's been doing the same thing! Except in multiple occasions! Don't see him getting called out [Excuse my selective quoting, if you filter him and read these comments and the context it was in, you'll see that it makes no difference that i quoted it this way] I get the basic read from Redfield that hes clean though. Just from the imaginary tone I hear in my head. Radfield hasn't said anything from his one post, so I kind of don't think he should be mayor based on that, but I really think hes townie. Just from a random gut read. Radfields comments are again good. I'm getting like this pure read from him for now. Just seems legit. This quote unsettles me too: And pointing out I'm trying to collect towncred is a good way for you to get some good towncred too. =) 5. Sheth posts a lot, but he's rather wishy washy in his opinions Lynch - Prplhz - I've always gotten some weird vibes from him. Back when he said neither elected position is at all important and him saying he thinks its better if Mafia gets one of those jobs. I think its just weird logic. I'm all for you attacking risk.nuke and looking at deus-ex above me, and I realize your not really on other peoples radar, but your definetly on mine. If you can change my mind I'll definetly change my vote, I'm just saying this now as I have to go. I'll be back to re-read this all over before actual Election time. Lynch Prplhz based on "weird vibes" Either Zeks or Zentor. They've both shown that even if there not mafia, there not going to be too helpful in finding real mafia and might just confuse us more. Then says if given the power he'd lynch me or Zentor. After Arc pressures Sheth he backs off a bit: Sure, will do. Just again notice I was asked just which player would you call down the thunder on right now if you could? So I just answered my two feels and a brief why. Who've I've been worried about the most is pretty much constantly changing with posts and as I go over and filter everyone. It appears to me he's just playing along with whatever the flavor of the week is Conclusion: If you take everything he says as truth then he's an innocent townie who's trying too hard. Otherwise he seems pretty scummy | ||
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Why would it be devastating to have Radfield/Arctocod in office if they're both scum? The Mayor's role isn't really that powerful, and PYP:I was won without the Pardoner stopping a single lynch, and if the Pardoner stops a lynch without a huge reasonable then he's autolynch the next day. Wouldn't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town? Was a misquote - that is prplhz's I apologize | ||
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On December 14 2011 05:49 prplhz wrote: That was a pretty bad analysis. One of the quotes isn't even Liquid`Sheth's and the conclusion is that either he's town or he's scum. Duh. Other than that, zeks is just rehashing the obvious instead of trying to clarify why he thinks it is coming from a scum mind and not a town mind. You can tell me why its bad by dissecting my points for him | ||
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Looking forward to seeing any other outstanding lynch candidates | ||
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Did they actually resign or did someone have an ability to make them do that | ||
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Stop voting for pardoner now I believe scum might have an ability to influence voting This is ELECTION mafia. Its not out of the question they have something to take out candidates for an election. Election is the theme of this game Wait for mod / Arc confirm | ||
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On December 14 2011 10:24 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: yeah, i see the arcto ability. okay. who did radfield want lynched and who did arcto want lynched? Radfield has been highly suspicious of ProfessorBA Arcto has been suspicious of Sheth The timing of when ProfessorBA came out to run and the fact that he got so much more active during this time period concerns me Voting deus | ||
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On December 14 2011 10:26 GiygaS wrote: Out of all the hydras, we basically have a choice: Prof or Deus. The reason I don't want to vote for Deus is what annul just said. Technically, Deus is really just one person executing the gameplan, doing the analysis, etc. while there's one guy who need's a recap of the day to do anything at all. :/ For this reason, I feel Prof is more important to protect from Night Kills. And that's why I'm voting him for pardonner. On the subject of lynching, I'm going to be voting for either: Zeks Zentor (Leaning against this because I feel the case on him is weak but other more experienced people all seem to believe he's mister Scummy McScum) Risk.nuke (I've already declared my suspicions on him in my defense, and I've looked at his filter a second time and he seems suspicious) Another point on risk.nuke: he didn't seem at all interested in being a candidate in the first bit, bu tnow that Arc is gone he was almost immediate to go "pick me! pick me!" when he is one of the least likely to get lynched tonight because people are suspecting him. I'll be watching and I'll make my decision from those three soon. How is it not the same for prof - Erandorr isn't even playing | ||
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On December 14 2011 10:24 ProfessorBadass wrote: Every post in the game has been Curu, I don't even know where Erandorr is. He kept monstrously crashing in DotA 2 so I'm guessing he has PC problems or something. @GigyaS | ||
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On December 14 2011 10:32 ProfessorBadass wrote: Go look through past games and find where supersoft has -ever- been killed as a Townie. If he is Town then you are giving minimal benefits whereas if he is Mafia then you are fucking the Town. High risk low reward. You have not said a word against me before but now all of a sudden you think I am Mafia because Radfield said so? If I am Town then you ensure I cannot get shot, if I am Mafia then I am putting myself under serious pressure by being in office. Yeah I haven't been that active over the past few days because I've been playing DotA 2 nonstop with Mig. Mig hasn't been online at all this past day so here I am. 79.) supersoft - Vanilla TownieKilled night 2 XLVII As I said the timing of when you came out to run is fishy and how suddenly you've already gathered a couple votes As you also said pardoner is a strong role for scum to have. Although he is putting himself under high pressure its high risk high reward. Pardoner can defend himself with words but no way for town to stop a pardoner with pardoning (although we can lynch the pardoner collectively there is no way to stop the action from being done). It is safe to assume Arc is probably silenced for the duration of night Your point of restricting voting to only the hydras I agree with totally Nisani wagon gaining momentum? | ||
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On December 14 2011 10:47 risk.nuke wrote: I didn't want to run then, and I think I've already explained the paniced state of the town 1 hour untill election. Do anyone here belive that my running now is the secret mafia agenda/plan. Does it look well thought out, I'm running to throw a shoe in the machinery for the mafia and prevent their plan. Because they have an agenda, this is very likely a limited use abillity. They wouldn't throw it at us for fun. AFAIK only you and ProfessorBA have stepped up since the (kidnapping) of Arc Scum used ability on Arc for: 1. Silence 2. The fact that he now has no protection for night kill since he wont have a body guard 3. Now it frees up an election spot for scum to take. As we can see for the voting picture after Arc got taken out it was practically a reset. I believe that if you are scum they'd clearly won't throw you out for their candidate as you have developed no credibility at all - which is the exact reason why I am really uneasy about ProfessorBA's uprising all of a sudden. Of course there is the possibility that scum team is terribly weak this game and can't afford to have both Rad/Arc in office so they just got desperate and outed one Now I have no idea how much credibility you have curu as I've never played with you. However you have satisfactorily answered my questions for now so I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I will hold my vote on Radfield. | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:04 GreYMisT wrote: We don't know for sure if the ability includes a silence, don't assume things. I believe its a safe assumption. If Arc talks before lynch/voting finishes then you can say 'I told you so' | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:09 GreYMisT wrote: Don't get me wrong, i think this is most likely the case, but be careful where hidden mechanics are concerend. Also i noticed you vote is currently on Sheth. there is one hour till the lynch if I am correct. Do you believe strongly enough that he is scum to the point where you can convice us all in 1 hour to switch? if not then you need to make your vote count. I hope to hear more discussion within the next short while and I will place my vote on one of the top 2 leading vote getters and justify with reasoning in 15 mins. I will then not change my vote after that. | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:17 GreYMisT wrote: Or you could help us find a good lynch target by looking through them now and placing a vote instead of waiting to see how others feel about it. I've already posted an extensive case on Sheth earlier in the day and thats all I have to say about him As for Refallen looking at his filter On December 06 2011 15:00 Refallen wrote: Can I /in too? I'm playing in XLVIII atm but since it's school holidays for me I really am free pretty much 14-15 hours a day. Says that and posted a grand total of 6 times. Comes back at a great timing when he is called out For a lurker lynch I have no problem with him | ||
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On December 14 2011 11:09 MrZentor wrote: Um... I think both choices are bad. A reason I shouldn't get killed? I can't get lynched tonight. That's a pretty good reason to not lynch me. I am very very curious on your claim now :D | ||
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