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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2101
lol i know who pushed for him. Radfield and I. Do you even read the thread? And why did you claim vanilla Townie right now?
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:20 GMT
#2102
On December 20 2011 22:11 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
lol i know who pushed for him. Radfield and I. Do you even read the thread? And why did you claim vanilla Townie right now?


Did you see that i stated that people who pushed hardest for him are not automaticly scum? Scum problaly didnt even have to push hard for him with all the people jumping on board so easy.

As for claiming, I'm town. Claimed it before when i tried to run for mayor day1. Didnt know back then that's its impossible to get elected if you arent a TL veteran with scumhunting credits or confirmed green/blue. Which is fair enough, lesson learned.

Any thoughts on the 8 scumpotentials ?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 13:23 GMT
#2103
Yes. Can you rank them somehow? I mean 8 is a lot.
I'd also like to see some reasoning behind these people. You should at least filter them if you put them on your list.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:52 GMT
#2104
On December 20 2011 22:23 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Yes. Can you rank them somehow? I mean 8 is a lot.
I'd also like to see some reasoning behind these people. You should at least filter them if you put them on your list.


First, to answer your question to an extent, my number one is Nyc for scum. Reasoning is that this is done by elemination of people confirmed/high potential town, leaving the others to be potential scum.

Secondly, i've just read through your filter and all you really do is post that you want opinions from mainly newby where you supply them a list and put them to work.

Only real post you make is 6 days ago:

On December 14 2011 01:50 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
mhh tbh i only read the thread once and so far i see a lot of players posting nonesense.
zeks and risk performance pretty poorly... zentor might be coached scum.
sheth looks like town to me. i got to reread prplhz and greymist since my reads on them have been pretty acurate in the past...
erandorr being afk means he's scum. however this game is special, maybe he relys on curu.
curus scumplay isnt less active compared to his townplay...
yes. thats it so far.
right now i am at the university and i have a meeting later on like 100km from here.
i guess i'll be at home 3 hours before the lynch and try to talk to annul. i hope he can be around at the deadline.
thats it so far



The rest is (good) argueing and responding to other people but you never really contribute yourself. And now you repeat this with me, asking for more info. How about you give some yourself?
Like you promised 2 days ago:

On December 18 2011 01:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo.
Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night.
I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets...
Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think...

Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences.
If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam...


Never delivered on this list so how about you give us your top 3 with reasoning? Would be very helpfull i think.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 14:17 GMT
#2105
right now my list isn't really updated. The problem is, that if noone counterclaims Greymists medicclaim, I somehow missed something and I have to reread everything. :-P
I think that I am going to be able to deliver an alternative lynchcandidate 6 hours before the lynch.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#2106
until then I don't want you to respond to my questions with your own questions.
I want you to have a look at jitsu and refallen and tell me if they really belong to that scumlist.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#2107
On December 20 2011 23:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
until then I don't want you to respond to my questions with your own questions.
I want you to have a look at jitsu and refallen and tell me if they really belong to that scumlist.


and totallynottwopeople. Go check these three guys.
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 14:18 GMT
#2108
Good morning all

I would like election votes to be cast ASAP so we have a better picture of what to do at night

Afaik tonight it is to be Deus / risk.nuke

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 20 2011 14:20 GMT
#2109
Comprissent gets a spoiler for being long:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sole attempt at analysis is on night kills. Complains about other people's analysis being useless:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12775265
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12789217

Comprissent is also adamant about not lynching lurkers:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12714663
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12728076
Which is convenient given his minimal contribution. Unnecessary "I'm town, really" comment on the end there too. For what it's worth, Hassybaby/Bluelightz lurked through the last newbie mini and turned out to be scum.

Likes talking about elections, power roles and policy. Defends himself but apparently doesn't like scumhunting. Showed interest in looking into MarserBlood and Nisani/VE's filters three days ago, played LoL instead.

Claimed to have his last exam today, so hopefully he'll step up and post some analysis before the lynch. Scum read until then.

Cwave: Filter is a bit lightweight, but he's happy to give reads and stick with them. Town read for now.

nyczbrandon:
On December 16 2011 11:48 nyczbrandon wrote:
Doing bare minimum makes me seem like scum?

Yes, yes it does. Taking four days to eventually post the first part of an analysis you promised is... well, I'm not even sure how you got away with it. Post more.

evantrees: Posts a lot about elections, next to nothing about scum. How did we get to day 3 with people still doing this? Getting a read out of this filter is hopeless.

cascades:
Not many posts, but relatively juicy ones. This post interested me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12795425
Just reads as really angry to me. Sure, if you have a strong distaste for veterans playing lazy/arrogant (which would be consistent with the rest of his filter), you'd be facepalming pretty hard at the ProfBA fold, but a mafia lynch is a mafia lynch. Maybe I just can't comprehend the true depths of veteran-hate.

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 14:24 GMT
#2110
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.

Greymist, you should claim in full as well.


I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 14:28 GMT
#2111
If Greymist is in fact the medic, which it appears he is, he should be voted in as the Police Chief.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 20 2011 15:11 GMT
#2112
On December 20 2011 16:27 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 05:53 GiygaS wrote:
On December 17 2011 05:52 Arctocod wrote:
Sheth for the record you are going to be lynched next once Curu flips red

I don't agree with this in the least.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 15:20 GiygaS wrote:
Just as something people may want to know if also going for Sheth, his apostrophe in his name is the one on the tilde key on most qwerty keyboards. If you don't know what I mean, just copy+paste his name for the vote.

I'd like a thorough explanation of this. The vast majority of his posts between these two posts of yours were Sheth defending Greymist.

For one, I was against it at that point because I was unsure of Sheth and I hod to actually look at evidence against him other than one period of time where he freaked out. The other thing is that I looked at his filter where he calls blindly being the third vote without an explanation on it ("helping to start the bandwagon"), which he later goes back on saying it was just to freak curu out... :/
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 20 2011 15:40 GMT
#2113
On December 20 2011 23:24 Radfield wrote:
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.

Greymist, you should claim in full as well.


I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.


Please do. He has been my number one for a great long while now.

In response to [TNTP] asking for my top three, and explanations.

1st place: Comprissent is Top on my list. I posted a detailed case about him in the beginning after GreYMisT accused me of being mafia. Not sure if anyone commented on it or even read it. Since then, he only comes in to defend himself and keep people from lynching him. He posted one piece of analysis, which I didn't really see as helpful anyway. However, I acknowledge i'm tunneling him pretty hard, so maybe that's why I think he's useless/scum.

2nd place: My next suspect is nyczbrandon. Again, hasn't posted much and shows actually to be pretty useless. Might be a townie, but I think he's mafia trying to lay low and not garner suspicion. Looking through his filter, there actually really doesn't look like anything that stands out to me other than the fact that nothing stands out to me.

3rd place: This spot is the void that was Greymist. As of now, it has been replaced with Deus-Ex-Mafia. For an experienced Hydra, he hasn't contributed almost anything in the way of solid analysis of any one player, and just keeps asking other peoples opinions on what they think of other players. Looking at everything, I also think he has done a lot to divert attention attention to other players. Right now we are at a lull looking for people, but instead of asking others opinions, he should be looking for his own and giving his own speculations.

With that being said, I still feel Comprissent is a strong-mafia read. Look, Comprissent is so scummy, he must be afraid of walking near pools for fear of falling in. He never contributes to town discussion, save to shed the spotlight and put it on someone else. He never posts except to defend himself, and than when discussion moves to someone else, he's back to sitting in the shadows.

There are alot of lurkers in this game, and all of the have equal chance of being scum, but Comprissent is the strongest read for me. Watch, guaranteed he will come back within the next two pages and post some long winded counterattack against me trying to, yet again, divert attention from himself. Start. Posting.

##Vote: Comprissent

Come at me, bro.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 15:49 GMT
#2114
hmm i just filtered comprissent and he's null to me. I am okay with him if evantrees and cascades don't seem to be scummier.
I am going to look at these two now.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 15:52 GMT
#2115
I second what radfield just said, Evan and Grey should full claim.

If Greymist is medic then I don't want to lynch sheth today. I got a pretty decent townread on alot of players.
Radfield
Giygas
MrZentor
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
GreYMisT

Some other people are saying they got townreads on
zeks
TotallyNotTwoPeople
I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree.

Right now I don't want to lynch
Evantrees (waiting for roleclaim)
Sheth

Which leaves
Jitsu
cascades
cwave
comprissant
Refallen

I think we should focus on these today.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 20 2011 15:53 GMT
#2116
@Risk, don't forget nyczbrandon.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 20 2011 15:56 GMT
#2117
Yes nyczbrandon too
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 16:00 GMT
#2118
On December 21 2011 00:40 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 23:24 Radfield wrote:
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.

Greymist, you should claim in full as well.


I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.


Please do. He has been my number one for a great long while now.

In response to [TNTP] asking for my top three, and explanations.

1st place: Comprissent is Top on my list. I posted a detailed case about him in the beginning after GreYMisT accused me of being mafia. Not sure if anyone commented on it or even read it. Since then, he only comes in to defend himself and keep people from lynching him. He posted one piece of analysis, which I didn't really see as helpful anyway. However, I acknowledge i'm tunneling him pretty hard, so maybe that's why I think he's useless/scum.

2nd place: My next suspect is nyczbrandon. Again, hasn't posted much and shows actually to be pretty useless. Might be a townie, but I think he's mafia trying to lay low and not garner suspicion. Looking through his filter, there actually really doesn't look like anything that stands out to me other than the fact that nothing stands out to me.

3rd place: This spot is the void that was Greymist. As of now, it has been replaced with Deus-Ex-Mafia. For an experienced Hydra, he hasn't contributed almost anything in the way of solid analysis of any one player, and just keeps asking other peoples opinions on what they think of other players. Looking at everything, I also think he has done a lot to divert attention attention to other players. Right now we are at a lull looking for people, but instead of asking others opinions, he should be looking for his own and giving his own speculations.

With that being said, I still feel Comprissent is a strong-mafia read. Look, Comprissent is so scummy, he must be afraid of walking near pools for fear of falling in. He never contributes to town discussion, save to shed the spotlight and put it on someone else. He never posts except to defend himself, and than when discussion moves to someone else, he's back to sitting in the shadows.

There are alot of lurkers in this game, and all of the have equal chance of being scum, but Comprissent is the strongest read for me. Watch, guaranteed he will come back within the next two pages and post some long winded counterattack against me trying to, yet again, divert attention from himself. Start. Posting.

##Vote: Comprissent

Come at me, bro.


This is in line with what i have on paper at the moment and what i posted earlier in terms of who is scum in my book. For me, Nyc is on spot one. More so because Comprissent is just so inactive it might just be bad town play instead of lurky scumplay.
Deus-Ex isn't scum to me but if he keeps asking for info without supplying any himself, im gonna have to look into it again and consider what you just posted concerning him.
Good post and for now ##Vote: Nyczbrandon
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 16:09 GMT
#2119
On December 21 2011 00:52 risk.nuke wrote:
I second what radfield just said, Evan and Grey should full claim.

If Greymist is medic then I don't want to lynch sheth today. I got a pretty decent townread on alot of players.
Radfield
Giygas
MrZentor
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
GreYMisT

Some other people are saying they got townreads on
zeks
TotallyNotTwoPeople
I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree.

Right now I don't want to lynch
Evantrees (waiting for roleclaim)
Sheth

Which leaves
Jitsu
cascades
cwave
comprissant
Refallen

I think we should focus on these today.


Jitsu is on my townlist aswell. Refallen at least not directly on my scumlist, however the fact that he's the only player who voted for curu as pardoner who isnt "confirmed" town makes him look suspicious.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 16:12 GMT
#2120
Some other people are saying they got townreads on
zeks
TotallyNotTwoPeople
I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree.


[image loading]

While i agree with the names in there, you cant just put them on green if you haven't even checked them out. Or state who these people are that say they are on our good side.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
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