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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 10:44 GiygaS wrote:
I'm just worried about that claim, because it may have just been graymist trying to draw the doc out so the mafia can kill him D:. Seriously, if Greymist is scum, it's a win-win for him, as either A) No one claims and he's safe or B) He gets lynched but Mafia finds the medic. I'll be going over Sheth's daunting filter today.
The doc will be fine. He HAS to counter claim. If greymist is scum it drops KP to 1, which basically means we win.
Given that I will not be roleblocked tonight, and Deus will watch me, I can protect the medic if he counter-claims. There is no downside to counter-claiming, only upside.
On December 20 2011 10:44 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:33 Radfield wrote:That's an interesting claim Greymist. Barring any counter-claim it's pretty rock solid. If Greymist is lying please counter-claim. Scum will be knocked down to one KP, and I can protect you. In the event that greymist is town, we have some work to do. On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote:
yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. I'm fine with either zeks or risk.nuke, as I think both are town. TotallyNotTwoPeople I am less sure on right now. Why you no trust me? :-(
I think you are town, but you are not colored in green on my spreadsheet just yet 
zeks and risk are.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose.
I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean?
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Unvoted for now for the medic claim
Any medics are to come out and counter claim NOW
Be back in a couple of hours
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On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean?
Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher.
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On December 20 2011 11:00 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean? Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher.
You are the Police Chief! On night three, you may perform a watcher check on target player and are immune to all night actions for that cycle.
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You and Radfield are free to protect whoever
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 11:00 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean? Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher.
Incorrect on several counts.
1) The watcher CANNOT be roleblocked, or targeted by any action for that matter.
2) Players are told when they are roleblocked, therefore they can make that public. Then the watcher can visit the player who was roleblocked, and find out the identity of the roleblocker. Hence, mafia CANNOT roleblock today.
3) Because of this I can protect any medic who claims. But it makes far more sense to put our medic as the watcher. Then the medic is unhittable and can use his power, and I am unhittable(or a 1 for 1 trade due to the watcher) and can also protect. This is the ideal scenario.
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United States2095 Posts
If you had flipped red Greymist I would have officially been the worst mafia player ever. And yes I agree with that completely Rad. Greymist as Watcher then Deus as Prankster. I like it.
We should watch out as I think the mafia with the power to do something to elections could possibly still remove Greymist. So who would we put in if they remove him from the running? Also, I recomend people go through the filters for NYCZ and those others that me + greymist have been talking about. Just because they havn't posted much recently doesn't make them mafia as Dropbear proved!
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 11:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
If you had flipped red Greymist I would have officially been the worst mafia player ever. And yes I agree with that completely Rad. Greymist as Watcher then Deus as Prankster. I like it.
We should watch out as I think the mafia with the power to do something to elections could possibly still remove Greymist. So who would we put in if they remove him from the running? Also, I recomend people go through the filters for NYCZ and those others that me + greymist have been talking about. Just because they havn't posted much recently doesn't make them mafia as Dropbear proved!
Lets see if there is a counter claim first.
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On December 20 2011 11:04 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 11:00 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean? Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher. Incorrect on several counts. 1) The watcher CANNOT be roleblocked, or targeted by any action for that matter. 2) Players are told when they are roleblocked, therefore they can make that public. Then the watcher can visit the player who was roleblocked, and find out the identity of the roleblocker. Hence, mafia CANNOT roleblock today. 3) Because of this I can protect any medic who claims. But it makes far more sense to put our medic as the watcher. Then the medic is unhittable and can use his power, and I am unhittable(or a 1 for 1 trade due to the watcher) and can also protect. This is the ideal scenario.
Well fuck thats good.
I would love to get elected, but there is another aspect to my role that would make this plan less than effective. If you want me to fully claim it I will, but understand that nothing i have said so far is a lie. I am indeed a medic and I protected the targets I said.
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On December 20 2011 09:34 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
@Jitsu
I would like to hear your current top 3 or 4 scum reads, with explanations please. Please focus on giving new details to any case you may be making, rather than rehashing things people have already brought up.
Up until about 5 minutes ago, I was pretty convinced about Sheth, GreyMist, and Comprissent. Things, as obvious, have changed, at least for the first two. I will definitely be going through filters and such again, although, I still believe Comprissent is mafia, as I have all game.
Slightly off-current-topic, when you guys play, I gather you make an excel spreadsheet to log your opinion on people. Do you usually put anything else relevent other than your current read on them? I think I might have to do that.
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I have a messy wordpad. always missing the fun stuff.
On December 19 2011 23:55 Radfield wrote:
evantrees, all i need is a yes or no answer.
nope, sorry and not from me radfield.
hi jaj22.
On December 20 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
Who stopped MrZentor and Nisani bandwagons. Who saw through the scum plans and called out Curu when palmar withdrew. I've read this game better then anyone else, I should be Prankster. Period.
I think you being prankster might be fitting given some of the stuff people have complained about, being all over the place and what not.
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If we have no counterclaimw e need to find another lynch.
Also, Cwave, stop tunneling me with that retarded point. Like I said, I really did not have time to vote in day 1.
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Refallen
As you said, we need another lynch....what are your top 3 scum-reads currently, and why? Please try to include new content in support of your suspicions.
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zeks
His decisivness when accusing ProfessorBadass throughout the game seemed pro-town to me. He posted how he was suspicous of the timing of when ProfB ran for election as it was after Arctorod had been removed from the election. Would also try to connect the last minute vote switch of Spaackle to election of ProfB. Seemed even better when ProfB turned up as scum. If he were scum, he would not prompt a DT on a fellow mafia since he is not GF and will not come out as a different role.
Posts a seemingly convincible post about his suspicions of Sheth's play when he is a newcomer. Though he had posted a quote from the wrong player and was misinformed about other parts of Sheth's post. To me, this is a mistake made by zeks' suspicions of Sheth rather than intentionally using someone elses' post to accuse Sheth.
Continues to press Mr.Zentor on his alignment after revealing his role to everyone despite being apparent to others that it was pro town and not a scum ability.
Had backed up his Day 1 lynch rather than bandwagoning like many. I think scum in a situation where there was bandwagoning would try to conceal themselves and just vote without any words.
Two bad calls on xsksx and Eiii. He believed they were scum or suspicious, but turned up blue.
In the end, i think that he is blue. Accused ProfB and could of been a factor that led to him breaking down and giving up. Backs most of his suspicions with reasoning.
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Totally, I'm suspicious of sheth and Cwave, evantrees as well. I'll post in more detail later.
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On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:So, the vote list for ProfessorBadass as Pardoner. Seems highly unlikely to me that there would be zero scum on this wagon. I would in fact think scum would get on early to try and jolt it into action. GreYMisT xsksc,
prplhz,GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, RadfieldAssuming you believe me to be town(and apparantly green?!) where does that leave us? + Show Spoiler +I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum
So that leaves Refallen in the list
He has barely posted anything of content throughout this whole game - been a lurker for most of it
His worst post is probably this:
On December 17 2011 02:20 Refallen wrote:
When are we ever going to be lynching Arcto or Giygas?
Explained his timing issues - always active during lynch times, says he's busy etc. However his first post before game ever started he said he's free pretty much 14-15 hours a day..but okay shit comes up in life w/e
On December 06 2011 15:00 Refallen wrote:
Can I /in too? I'm playing in XLVIII atm but since it's school holidays for me I really am free pretty much 14-15 hours a day.
Funny thing he says:
On December 14 2011 12:01 Refallen wrote:
Also comprissent you formatted your vote wrongly.
On December 19 2011 19:19 Refallen wrote:
Also, evantrees you need to stop nitpicking on minor issues like vote formatting. Lastly, we really shouldn't be discussing modkills here. What's the point of that?
For now, I'm leaning towards lynching Greymist.
Nothing much to work on. He's posted mostly fluff for his limited activity which is almost always a scum tell
Obviously the biggest thing that strikes out at me is that he's the only one left on that list (barring any counter claims to GreyMist in the future)
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I'm no scum. I think I have been pretty outspoken at posting my suspicions about ProfBadass, and he flipped red. I don't get what you mean by how my worst post is that. I'm saying that we would never be lynching Arcto and Giygas, if you look at the context properly. And lol, I didn't even notice I posted that formatting thing, that is my bad totally.
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Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person.
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On December 20 2011 13:37 Refallen wrote:
Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person.
And I was just about to filter him Q_Q. I'll still look it over and tell you if I find anything else that's scummy too.
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