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United States2095 Posts
On December 20 2011 13:37 Refallen wrote:
Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person.
I helped start the bandwagon on ProfBA. Then I got off of it whenever I thought Arctocod had went too far. Deus-ex did the same thing and I just was more vocal of my wanting reasoning for kicking him off. Then when ProfBA did his crazy I'm locked in a room thing I was resistant for a bit because it didn't seem very mafia, why wouldn't he use it on someone else for instance, but then I got it and agreed. Was just trying to be smart about it.
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On December 20 2011 13:56 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 13:37 Refallen wrote:
Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person. I helped start the bandwagon on ProfBA. Then I got off of it whenever I thought Arctocod had went too far. Deus-ex did the same thing and I just was more vocal of my wanting reasoning for kicking him off. Then when ProfBA did his crazy I'm locked in a room thing I was resistant for a bit because it didn't seem very mafia, why wouldn't he use it on someone else for instance, but then I got it and agreed. Was just trying to be smart about it.
The bandwagon for his elected position or his lynch? There's no reference in your filter to you starting the bandwagon against him at all, you did not voice any suspicion on him AT ALL until you "saw the logic" AKA the "oh shit he's defs getting lynched now, better ditch him now before it's too late." But for his pardon campaign you said: "If I switched my vote it'd be you" directed to ProfBA. This was around the start of the campaigns for second pardoner too.
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On December 17 2011 05:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I voted for him just to see who would agree / disagree with me. I didn't really think Arctocod had an argument that was worth killing off ProBA, but I wanted to see everyones responses.
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United States2095 Posts
On December 20 2011 14:56 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 05:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I voted for him just to see who would agree / disagree with me. I didn't really think Arctocod had an argument that was worth killing off ProBA, but I wanted to see everyones responses.
That was why I joined in on the bandwagon. I get that I was wrong in the end about ProfBA and apparnetly Arcto had an amazing argument, but he didn't post it. I still think if we'd just followed Arcto's maybe I'll post it at the end argument we end up lynching people like Greymist or forcing ppl like Greymist out of hiding. I get that its good if we have a good scum read, but at that point I didn't like Arcto's case.
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On December 20 2011 15:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 14:56 GiygaS wrote:On December 17 2011 05:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I voted for him just to see who would agree / disagree with me. I didn't really think Arctocod had an argument that was worth killing off ProBA, but I wanted to see everyones responses.
That was why I joined in on the bandwagon. I get that I was wrong in the end about ProfBA and apparnetly Arcto had an amazing argument, but he didn't post it. I still think if we'd just followed Arcto's maybe I'll post it at the end argument we end up lynching people like Greymist or forcing ppl like Greymist out of hiding. I get that its good if we have a good scum read, but at that point I didn't like Arcto's case.
Why are you pushing for the lynch of Greymist who is for now a confirmed medic? I'm voting for you, as I don't see how you "started the bandwagon", as well as already mentioned evidence. Your posting is also very chaotic, and especially at the beginning, you were constantly saying nothing.
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Just as something people may want to know if also going for Sheth, his apostrophe in his name is the one on the tilde key on most qwerty keyboards. If you don't know what I mean, just copy+paste his name for the vote.
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United States2095 Posts
Giygas do you even read anything. Wow. Just wow. I joined in on the bandwagon for lynching ProfBA when it was only Deus + Arctocod in on it. If you want my explanation on why feel free to actually read my filter Giygas. Thats what I meant when I said that. I did also join the bandwagon for getting him elected. I still think it was the smart way to work, and that got him lynched in the end. And Greymist + Jitsu were the first 2 who actually posted logical case things, I was too busy being angry at Arctocod for saying things like I'll probably post my case on him later and then claiming hes joking afterwards but never posting his full case. I like putting pressure on people, I just don't like continue'ing it without a good case or reasoning or without the person were on responding at all.
Also, Where do you think I'm pushing the lynch of Greymist? That is almost comical, it honestly makes me shake my head at you. I was constantly saying nothing at the beginning? Dear me, how dare I not know exactly what to post at my first ever mafia game online. And then your talking about my Grave Accent to help people vote. Giygas the list of good things you've done for us this game includes, giving your power to a single player and killing a blue and then giving your other power to someone who has claimed to be roleblocked both times. Please just read and try and think man. Just think before you post. Spend a minute maybe re-read your post and then if you still think its good, post it.
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On December 17 2011 05:53 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 05:52 Arctocod wrote:
Sheth for the record you are going to be lynched next once Curu flips red I don't agree with this in the least.
On December 20 2011 15:20 GiygaS wrote:
Just as something people may want to know if also going for Sheth, his apostrophe in his name is the one on the tilde key on most qwerty keyboards. If you don't know what I mean, just copy+paste his name for the vote.
I'd like a thorough explanation of this. The vast majority of his posts between these two posts of yours were Sheth defending Greymist.
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On December 20 2011 03:07 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'd recomend we choose between the 2 people we elect. Hopefully Deus-ex and TNTP and Radfield and the watcher chooses based on their best geuss on who to watch. That way we can hopefully save those that we elect and Radfield our mayor. On December 20 2011 09:14 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
##Vote: Zeks I like explanations and transparency. Please provide some on this.
On December 20 2011 13:37 Refallen wrote:
Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person. Will you be voting for Sheth to be lynched then?
@nyczbrandon
If you enjoy not being lynched and also enjoy town winning, you should post some of your scum reads, with explanations. We haven't heard nearly enough from you.
On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote?
On December 20 2011 11:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Well fuck thats good.
I would love to get elected, but there is another aspect to my role that would make this plan less than effective. If you want me to fully claim it I will, but understand that nothing i have said so far is a lie. I am indeed a medic and I protected the targets I said.
Hmm...I'm having trouble imagining what it could be to make you any bigger of a target to scum than you already are with being an outed medic, and if possible I would like you in the police chief spot, but I will leave it to your discretion if you want to reveal any more details, and if you say you do not wish to be elected, then I will not elect you.
I think that is poking enough people for one post. Must...resist...urge...to triple post...
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@Totally
I'm not sure yet; Sheth has been active in defending himself, and he hasn't given me outright mafia tells like Curu, so I'm looking for better lynch targets. What do you think of Sheth?
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Nope, I fucked up, triple posting, awwwwww yeah.
On December 20 2011 16:47 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote?
You meant the lynch vote if I am not mistaken, my bad. Either way, nisani was replaced and then flipped town, and spaackle had more than enough votes on him to ensure his lynch without refallen as well, so the point about not needing him to vote-switch in any way still stands.
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On December 20 2011 16:50 Refallen wrote:
@Totally
I'm not sure yet; Sheth has been active in defending himself, and he hasn't given me outright mafia tells like Curu, so I'm looking for better lynch targets. What do you think of Sheth?
I think he has been taking posting/active = town, lurking/inactive = scum a bit too far without considering the motivations for posts enough. I would not oppose his lynch, but I would also not actively push for it.
Sheth, you mentioned you are keeping notes on people, so hopefully this request won't take you too long...you seem to enjoy calling people town, but for all the fuss you make over people not having good cases, I have yet to see you post a good case on why somebody is scum. I'd very much appreciate it if you would do so sooner rather than later.
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On December 20 2011 16:53 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Nope, I fucked up, triple posting, awwwwww yeah. Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:47 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote? You meant the lynch vote if I am not mistaken, my bad. Either way, nisani was replaced and then flipped town, and spaackle had more than enough votes on him to ensure his lynch without refallen as well, so the point about not needing him to vote-switch in any way still stands.
I did mean the lynch vote but i dont think i understand your last sentence. You mean he didnt had to vote switch since Spaackles was doomed anyway makes him green? The vote mayhem happened in the last hour so it wasnt really clear what the outcome was in the last 10 minutes.
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As a matter of principle, I don't like Greymist's defence. He said that he is not remaining tight lipped, but I don't see him contributing anything new for town - he's just repeating his previous scumtells. Evantrees and I have already posted a refutation, so I suggest you guys go look at that instead of trying to jump on an invalid bandwagon.
This is not important in light of his roleclaim though.
If you are Medic ROLECLAIM NOW. Mafia cannot afford to trade 1 for 1 and lose a KP.
This game is an easy town victory at this point. All town needs to do is to play safe.
Barring any other counterclaims, vote Greymist for PC instead. PC is immune to night actions and cannot be roleblocked. Hence we get the use of Greymist medic powers. With this, we even have the option to WIFOM mafia, but again, we don't need to.
It doesn't matter that Greymist is PC instead. He watches Radfield. He doesn't do it he gets lynched next day.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now...
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On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now...
And see he pushed for him so hard.
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On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now... And see he pushed for him so hard.
And see who pushed for him so hard.
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On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now... And see he pushed for him so hard. And see who pushed for him so hard.
And to triple quote myself, by this is i don't mean to say that the loudest person concercing the Greymist lynch party is automaticly scum as it's also possible Mafia just had to watch and feed the discussion here and there.
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- jaj22 (Replaced MarserBlood) dunno
- nyczbrandon lurker/reactive instead of proactive
- GreYMisT Claims Medic(no counterclaim)
- DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
- Comprissent lurkerish
- TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
- [blue]Spaackle/blue] the Politician
- Refallen Vote error
- Cwave vanilla town
- zeks relaxed and pro town thinking
- MrZentor Claims Floridian(cant confirm for town). Posts weird and scummy at times.
- risk.nuke ADHD
- prplhz Secret Service Agent
- GiygaS Radical Protester
- evantrees null
- Arctocod the vanilla town
- bumatlarge Mafia Godfather
- Jitsu null
- Radfield Pro town posting.
- Eiii the District Attorney
- xsksc the Private Investigator
- Liquid`Sheth prob town
- VisceraEyes the anarchist
- cascades null
- ProfessorBadass Mafia Minister of Propaganda
Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed
5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance).
1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, )
That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots.
3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree.
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I forgot to put Zentor in potential townies seeing as its agreed on his ability should be considered pro town.
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