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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:03 GMT
#1081
On December 06 2011 23:23 vaderseven wrote:
Ya the fact that I have buyer's remorse over my choice of target makes me start to agree at least a bit that my action was used in haste.

LOL
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 06 2011 16:04 GMT
#1082
On December 07 2011 00:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 23:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 06 2011 23:19 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you tell us before you shot Soap? There is literally no harm for town to simply chill for an hour and ask the people who are very likely to be town if Soap is a good shot.

well it's a tricky situation I guess.
Just think about it, the guy just claimed dayvig (which is the only mistake he did imo) so he had to shoot at some point, Sadly that point was day1. I wouldn't trust 3 guys who threaten to kill me, so he obviously was not going to listen to a thing you guys said.
Probably the rest would have told him to not shoot so early. So he had to make that decision on his own.


Why didn't he ask the rest then?

I wanted him to shoot Drazerk, who I think is mafia.


because supersoft pushed him to shoot someone now or he's dead and he snapped. You pressured him like crazy and you're asking why he did not act calm and not-hasty? Well guess what, because someone put a gun to his head.
Yes it was an overreaction of his, but that doesn't change a thing.
There was no point in pressuring him the way you did unless you were certain his claim was a lie. Why would you try to pressure a town-vig that's just not makeing sense at all.
Or do you want to tell me you had a scum read about V7 before all that happened? He looked town to me, although that might be a nullread after his last game where even mafia thought he's a townie. But did you have anything that made you think he's a liar or a scum to justify what happened?
Just to get this clear: I think you're both townies and you screwed up big time. Palmar tried some omgus plan that backfired because he happened to target a day-vig and V7 overreacted, now get over it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:05 GMT
#1083
On December 07 2011 00:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:29 syllogism wrote:
On December 07 2011 00:20 Palmar wrote:
On December 06 2011 23:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 06 2011 23:19 Palmar wrote:
Why didn't you tell us before you shot Soap? There is literally no harm for town to simply chill for an hour and ask the people who are very likely to be town if Soap is a good shot.

well it's a tricky situation I guess.
Just think about it, the guy just claimed dayvig (which is the only mistake he did imo) so he had to shoot at some point, Sadly that point was day1. I wouldn't trust 3 guys who threaten to kill me, so he obviously was not going to listen to a thing you guys said.
Probably the rest would have told him to not shoot so early. So he had to make that decision on his own.


Why didn't he ask the rest then?

I wanted him to shoot Drazerk, who I think is mafia.

So do you think he has a scum role that is compelled to claim what he did? If not, how do you propose he explains his protections daily and the fact he is still alive?


I'll answer your question with two questions.

a) Would you shoot him if you were mafia?

b) How do you expect us to catch him lying about his protections? If he's scum, he already has all the information needed to misprotect every night, mafia can even leave someone who should be a "good" target alive and Drazerk can claim that protection. Even if Drazerk tells us who he's protecting right before day breaks it changes very little. The only roles that can in any way allow us to deduce anything about Drazerk's alignment are tracker and watcher. Not to mention I find the role very unconventional compared to other roles revealed this game (Town Jack, Town Floridian and two Vanilla Town)

I would have to shoot him yes if he is truthful about his claim. What is the motivation for claiming? All he is doing is limiting their night kills because they always have to keep one reasonable night kill target alive and there is the risk that town outright forces him to protect certain players.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:05 GMT
#1084
On December 06 2011 09:47 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 09:07 syllogism wrote:
It's not rare for town to have a role like that and in a setup with this scum ratio, it makes sense. The fact it is anonymous is slightly scummier, but claiming the role as scum makes little sense except as a gambit.

it is rare, give me some normal games which have had this type of role

waiting on this
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:09 GMT
#1085
I don't think I can find any TL games as it has mostly been used in PYP setups
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:13 GMT
#1086
so not normal games then
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:13 GMT
#1087
so erm, that was a lie then?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:13 GMT
#1088
Well actually Decon the townie was JimboSilvers in Personality mafia, which is an even scummier variant of the role
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 06 2011 16:14 GMT
#1089
what role are you asking about redFF? mine?
Computer says mafia
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:27 GMT
#1090
yes

syllo: that's not a normal game
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:30 GMT
#1091
On December 07 2011 01:27 redFF wrote:
yes

syllo: that's not a normal game

Is this a normal game and how is that relevant? There's also Insane mafia where Floridian aka Town Elder was a town role
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 16:32 GMT
#1092
yeah this is a normal game, hence the number. Regardless, we've established that it is rare role, with you unable to find it being used previously in any normal games, and only being able to find 2 instances of it in insane or theme games.

so yes it's rare, especially for a normal game.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 06 2011 16:35 GMT
#1093
Where are you going with this redFF?
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:35 GMT
#1094
There is a fine line between normal and themed games. Double voter is a standard role and from what I have seen more often town than not. The fact the vote is anonymous is just makes it a variation of it. Do you think the fact whether Flordidian is a town role or not has any relevance as to whether the came is considered themed or not? The answer is no.

I assume you don't believe drazerk's claim at all then either, because that most certainly is not a normal role.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2011 16:36 GMT
#1095
EBWOP: the game, not the came
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 06 2011 16:39 GMT
#1096
@redFF

Hey, what do you think about Mattchew?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
December 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#1097
Dam, just read through the thread.

I must say palmar, if you are scum you are playing a high risk - high reward game. And even as town i think you're gambling.

I don't like why vaderseven claimed and shot soap. If he is scum, this day1 kill makes no sense. As town, this claim and hit is stupid to me. But as scum it's even more stupid. Eventhough stating this creates wifom, i considere him town for the moment.

I don't like how syllogism is posting in this game. He is very agressive towards everyone and its really creating a bad town environment. (at least to me) I'm not saying he's scum for that, but i just don't like it.

redFF, i consider him town. He defended soap before the kill (who was town) op basing on meta, thus using logic.

On December 06 2011 07:07 sandroba wrote:
What the fuck, insta-delurk when called out. I think you got one there.


I consider sandroba the scumiest from atm. Lanaia did not insta-delurk there.. why would you say that?



How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 06 2011 17:36 GMT
#1098
On December 06 2011 23:16 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 22:38 Corrupt wrote:
On December 06 2011 08:27 Mattchew wrote:
Im ##vote redFF his posts are all one liners and offer literally nothing. He originally voted Palmar then hoped off that when others starting voting him. He is now trying to start a corrupt bandwagon leading me to believe that palmar and corrupt are town as well.

On December 06 2011 09:55 Mattchew wrote:
My feeling is that redFF is mafia and I would like people to look more closely at that. If not I cannot sit here and vote for someone we know so little about...


I am with you on this one. There's something fishy about him and lately with all the non-productive one-liners he posts,
I'm starting to have a stronger feeling on him.
Okey so, in the start he did some scumhunting, made a case on Palmar and proved to be very agressive in his search for information. I read this as an attempt of establishing himself as a Green player (which I think he succeeded to do).
Then what he does is switching his vote from Palmar (his original case) to me.

On December 05 2011 21:23 redFF wrote:
##Unvote
meh palmar you're ok for now

can't get over corrupt saying "so many suspicious people" and then only being able to list 1 and then ignoring my pushing of the issue.

##Vote Corrupt


After I ask for his argument, he just ignores me with this line:
<2 people is not "so many">
And never sayis anything in addition to the subject.
Okey, good, but later.. This happens:

On December 06 2011 06:47 Corrupt wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:39 redFF wrote:
GODDAMN THIS PALMAR WAGON IS BAD

You had a case on Palmar earlier and now you're unhappy with the current events.
Bother to explain please?


He just goes:
On December 06 2011 06:47 redFF wrote:
EVERYONE ON CORRUPT GOGOGO


..What?

YOU MAKE NO SENSE

Don't worry red only I am making a case for you... Corrupt is just jumping on because you wanted to vote for him
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 06 2011 17:37 GMT
#1099
On December 07 2011 01:39 prplhz wrote:
@redFF

Hey, what do you think about Mattchew?

This would require more than one line so dont expect a response from red this game
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2011 18:06 GMT
#1100
On December 06 2011 18:39 Palmar wrote:
No mafia with half a brain is going to kill you VE.


You can't see it, but I'm rolling my eyes at you bro. Just take my word for it.

I'm willing to admit your posting has taken a more townie turn, but the circumstances around the Heir lynch don't look good for you in my opinion. I'm working on a case, so feel free to do a couple of situps in preparation for the hearty guffaw you're sure to enjoy at my expense. When day breaks (if we both still live), I'm comin for you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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