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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#781
I would expect you to realize that I'm town already. I'm dissapoint.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
December 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#782
Can we just lynch Radfield?

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#783
okay i am back. which filter is important to read? syllo, palmar, sandro I am asking you
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#784
On December 06 2011 07:45 sandroba wrote:
I would expect you to realize that I'm town already. I'm dissapoint.

Probably, but I'm annoyed by you disappearing for the first 30+ hours again, sick or not
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#785
On December 06 2011 07:46 Erandorr wrote:
Can we just lynch Radfield?



Was that your big post you were writing up?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#786
@ss I don't know I've read a few (toadstem, palmar, vader, lanaia, hier, zephird, errandor). I'd sugest lanaia since I think she is likely red.

Where is your big post errandor?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 05 2011 22:50 GMT
#787
ninja'ed
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
December 05 2011 22:53 GMT
#788
On December 06 2011 07:50 sandroba wrote:
ninja'ed


Fine :/ Hang on ..
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#789
Can someone post a non meta reason to not lynch Palmar. The scummiest actions in this game so far have come from him and I cant accept some line of, "ignore his scummyness cuz when he is town its so goooooood."

I still will default to lynching him cuz he is scummy.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 05 2011 22:56 GMT
#790
On December 06 2011 07:53 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 07:50 sandroba wrote:
ninja'ed


Fine :/ Hang on ..


That's going to need to be one amazing post if you hope to succeed
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2011 22:59 GMT
#791
On December 06 2011 07:55 vaderseven wrote:
Can someone post a non meta reason to not lynch Palmar. The scummiest actions in this game so far have come from him and I cant accept some line of, "ignore his scummyness cuz when he is town its so goooooood."

I still will default to lynching him cuz he is scummy.

None of his actions show a scummy mindset. He isn't avoiding attention or pushing for clearly bad lynches and isn't undermining any of the people who appear town so far. Him pressuring you was towny if anything. He could be playing like this as scum, but there are better day 1 lynches.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 05 2011 23:00 GMT
#792
erandorr ^_^

as town, you try to contribute and you don't strive against the stream with accusations.
You can't be seriously demanding a radfieldlynch at day1...


also i found something:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 06 2011 07:11 vaderseven wrote:
Here is my notes. They are out of date at this point since I last worked on them almost 24 hours ago.

Next time pressure vote instead of pressure lie imo.

+ Show Spoiler +
1. StimilantE

2. prplhz

day1- Calls turthbringer out for saying no lynch is good (scummy) but hates zodiac lists (proving he isnt noob) and then saying his vote will be worthless.

SOFTCLAIMED POWER ROLE DAY 1 "Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job? "

Denies and clarifies softclaim.

3. Refallen

day1- Claims not a smurf.

4. Radfield

day1- Opens with a random vote on prplhz (rng). Too safe a vote that provides nothing. Even calls it bad. Really searching for ways that are not scum hunting to find a day1 lynch. Plays off of syllogism and says we need to make the town innocent so we can see scum. Suggest no-lynch after this. Says he likes zodiac lists. Says he doesn't like directing roles via lists. Says no-lynch is good cuz it makes us all get along.

Makes it clear that he is actually not for a no-lynch

5. Palmar

day1- Opens with a list of vets and says 2 of these are scum if the mod balanced in a smart way. List was a reply to a request for a list. Says lists are dumb.

6. Erandorr

7. hyshes

8. Zephirdd

day1 - Fishes for a smurf claim on Refallen.

9. Drazerk

10. Jackal58

day1- Opens by saying random lynch is bad, lists are bad, and list makers often flip scum. Says the only way to confirm alignment is to die.

11. sandroba

12. syllogism

day1- Opens by trying to say he wants to appear innocent via people questioning him. Likes zodia lists to direct medics. Declares that he will be looking at vets that live too long because that is scummy.

13. TruthBringer

day1- advocates a no lynch and doesn't like zodiac lists. Says his vote is worthless.

possible scummy post-http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=149&topic_id=291212

14. Toadesstern

day1- Pops into the thread and says we should lynch a summy player or a lurker.

15. annul

day1- Points out that Radfield doesn't like RNG and then RNGs. Says directing power roles is stupid. Points out how zodiac lists are wifom bait.

16. kingjames01

17. Corrupt

Noob.

day1-

18. Soap

19. Lanaia

day1- Says I am scummy first post.

20. Risen

21. VisceraEyes

day1- Opens by voting Palmer for wishy washy setupd speculation and no opinions.

22. vaderseven

23. Mattchew

24. Hier

25. redFF

day1- Starts off by saying nolynch is bad till later in the game and really bad day 1 for good reasons. Then says palmar is scummy with no reasons and votes him. Posts his case when poked that its the useless list, followed by saying lists are useless. Ignores the reason for list posted in first place. Semi-weak case and probably wrong.


this list looks like a list i do when i am scum. There is basically no information about certain active people
+ there is no accusation or assumption that anyone is suspicious...
v7, why do you write a scumlist...
+ this list is extremely poor. He didn't even replace stimilante with me.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#793
He pressured with lies instead of his vote.

He has pushed for some random lynches (and not pushed for anything besides random lynches)

He hasn't scum hunted at all.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#794
On December 06 2011 07:55 vaderseven wrote:
Can someone post a non meta reason to not lynch Palmar. The scummiest actions in this game so far have come from him and I cant accept some line of, "ignore his scummyness cuz when he is town its so goooooood."

I still will default to lynching him cuz he is scummy.


My point is that he made a fucked up move, and that tells me that he is more town than scum. Scums at least think thoroughly their steps, they won't go fuck up like that day 1. Especially NOT Palmar, because I do know that he is smart enough for that.

Fuck, there is no way to argue for his defense without meta. It's just... he isn't red, he doesn't feel red to me. Sorry, but I got nothing.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#795
Supersoft you should keep up on the times. That is my notes from sunday when reading the thread over a few hours. Palmar wanted to shot me over them this morning.

I posted those with out even reading them over again as a good faith thing. I was home for like 1.5 mins before they were up.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 05 2011 23:05 GMT
#796
On December 06 2011 08:03 vaderseven wrote:
Supersoft you should keep up on the times. That is my notes from sunday when reading the thread over a few hours. Palmar wanted to shot me over them this morning.

I posted those with out even reading them over again as a good faith thing. I was home for like 1.5 mins before they were up.



these notes are still scumnotes. You didn't change your alignment since then right?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 23:08 GMT
#797
I dont know let me check with the mod.

*rolls eyes*

I said I dont want to post my notes cuz they are short, full of shorthand that I use, and not really helpful becuase they lack conclusions.

Palmar said he would shot me in the face if i didn't post them and that started everything.

I didn't write them up intending to share them.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 23:10 GMT
#798
On December 06 2011 08:01 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 07:55 vaderseven wrote:
Can someone post a non meta reason to not lynch Palmar. The scummiest actions in this game so far have come from him and I cant accept some line of, "ignore his scummyness cuz when he is town its so goooooood."

I still will default to lynching him cuz he is scummy.


My point is that he made a fucked up move, and that tells me that he is more town than scum. Scums at least think thoroughly their steps, they won't go fuck up like that day 1. Especially NOT Palmar, because I do know that he is smart enough for that.

Fuck, there is no way to argue for his defense without meta. It's just... he isn't red, he doesn't feel red to me. Sorry, but I got nothing.


Honestly, that doesn't say anything that defends his scummy actions.

You are basiclly saying that Palmar only does town actions. He didn't play that way today regaurdless of everything else so why should we apply meta like that at this time.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
December 05 2011 23:12 GMT
#799
And concerning the Palmarcase:

It is based on stupid assumptions like LAL. I never agreed with this shit! If you're town, you have to lie sometimes to get some additional information! It's a risk you sometimes have to take. So far Palmar is the ONLY one here that tried to force anything.
Accusing him for that is just stupid. There are different, better indicators, that tell us if someone is scum or not.

Right now, I see errandorr being useless and lazy. I know he is playing a lot Dota2 atm and I think he doesnt read the thread very well. I think his illness may be a lie.

V7 is still sticking to Palmar with questionable reasoning and he also posted scumnotes here.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 05 2011 23:13 GMT
#800
Like, those notes cover the first 19 pages of the thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&currentpage=19#368 was around when I stopped 'playing' last night and I don't send my notes to work usually.

Thats why it was silly to post them. I only did so cuz I was "on notice" to do so.
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