Student Mafia (New/Newish players welcome) - Page 5

On December 07 2011 03:01 xtfftc wrote:
Just came back from work. Do you guys reckon I should post my new analysis now or closer to the deadline? Usually we would like to keep the discussion going but considering that pretty much everyone else is happy to lurk today, I wonder whether I should post close to the deadline to make it harder for the mafia to switch if they want to.

On December 07 2011 03:22 xtfftc wrote:
I wasn't asking about discussing things during the night; this is something town should always do. The mafia love keeping quiet during the night because there's much less pressure to vote after the lynch - but if we engage in a discussion, they would be forced to do so. Just like my other views about policies and general town play, you can confirm my consistency on the issue by checking xlvii where I was town.. And I recall that I had a huge argument with vader about it, and he rolled mafia. He used the same argument you're using: that they will have less information this way, and it's totally wrong: it's not like the information they have from Day 1 suddenly becomes invalid. You said it earlier: mafia have more information than us at the moment, so we should try to increase the amount of information we have by all means at the moment. That's some red points for you, BH.

On December 07 2011 03:07 Blazinghand wrote:
EB and I are of different opinions on this. You can make your own decision. Honestly, if you post like an hour or two before the deadline you're probably fairly safe, just because the mafia members probably all won't be awake (but who knows?) or will have already phoned in their kill, and are just waiting for the day post. If it's going to be difficult for you to be awake at the deadline, though, just post it when you can.

On December 07 2011 03:43 Grackaroni wrote:


just to be clear, I am not saying that BH is mafia, I'm just saying that he is not a confirmed town and that nobody should follow him blindly. IF things continued to go the same way as they went day1 and BH was mafia, there would be no hope for town to win.

He tells people to vote for Adam for discrediting him ----> people vote for Adam

On December 04 2011 16:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, EY, you can rest assured that as a single personality I won't dominate the discussions-- you certainly will be a good counter-balance :D

I think we've got about 40 hours left.

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Also, I think BKEXE has been poked a fair bit. Time to bust out some new poking power.

##Unvote BroodKingEXE

Adam has correctly noted that there are no no-lynches in his sole post. Helpful, but not enormously so. Also, he's certainly awake since he's Australian. I'm gonna slap my vote on him and wait for him to contribute some more. Maybe he's eating or out or something, but hopefully this will get more than 1 post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067&user=192320&user=192320
His sole post:


Adam, I'd like to see you contributing to the discussion more. I'm heading to bed relatively soon, but when I wake up I hope to see a new post from you.

##Vote Adam4167

I don't necessarily think you're scum or that other people should vote for you, but you've only made one post, and that's simply not good enough.

Hurry up.

On December 05 2011 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, Hassybaby has finally gone from no posts to "having posts" so I can, at last, change my vote to a more useful target.

Adam4167, in a game full of unimpressive players you have truly failed to impress. I voted you and your immediate response was a thinly-veiled OMGUS. If you're mafia, I'm going to take this chance to get rid of you. If you're a townie, you're so utterly useless I couldn't imagine you contributing.

You've had your 6 hours. Hell, you've had your SEVEN hours, because I'm a nice guy. But the clock's ticking, and I don't have time for some last minute voting BS.

Try to redeem yourself. I'll be checking in constantly from now until the voting deadline, but I doubt we'll find someone scummier and/or less useful than you in that time.

It's really a shame; there are other people who are kinda suspicious, but you're just so atrociously bad that I can't afford to stay my hand any longer.

##Unvote Hassybaby
##Vote Adam4167

Come at me bro.

On December 07 2011 03:47 xtfftc wrote:






My first post wasn't directed at you but at everyone and in my second post I focused on your position on the issue and awared you your red points. I would like you to re-read my posts carefully and inform me if you still see any inconsistency. See, you've bolded the wrong part of my post.

It shouldn't be


Instead, it should be

On December 07 2011 03:59 xtfftc wrote:


I did answer it. I wrote "My first post wasn't directed at you but at everyone and in my second post I focused on your position on the issue and awared you your red points." I came back from work, posted my question, and went on to read the thread to look for stuff to analyse while waiting for people to react. You did, so I replied to you. Dunno how you see anything wrong with it.

On December 07 2011 04:06 xtfftc wrote:


Yes, because it's not just about your own analysis. It's about your analysis and everyone else reacting to (or ignoring) it. An isolated read isn't as good as being able to analyse people's responces.

On December 07 2011 04:09 xtfftc wrote:


This is what I posted first (just before mentioning Vader):



And also, the post just above this one where I clarified it again.

On December 07 2011 04:13 Blazinghand wrote:

Note that I am not a fan of stopping the discussion at any point.

On December 07 2011 04:14 Grackaroni wrote:

Seeing the flips can definitely help your own reads, I suggest that you try to reread the thread after each death because it may give you some new perspective.

That said do not use the flips as a base for a case against somebody because that is likely to have been manipulated by scum

On December 07 2011 04:15 Velinath wrote:

Going off your assumption that someone will end up dying tonight, why should we hold off on posting analysis? The more conversation that we can have before night ends, the more that the dead townie will be able to contribute before they die. Given this, I feel that we stand to gain more by posting analysis earlier so that we can discuss it with all of the town voices.

On December 07 2011 04:19 xtfftc wrote:
And yeah, agreed with Grackaroni's last two posts.

Grackaroni

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The town, including myself, have started sheeping him and treating him like he is a confirmed town.

On December 07 2011 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:



I think it should be made very clear that a confirmed town doesn't KNOW anything more than an unconfirmed town, and I'm not confirmed town, and even if I were you should scrutinize my posts carefully. The fact of the matter is, I'm wrong a lot of times before I'm right, and just because a guy's probably innocent doesn't make him smart. I've played one mafia game-- this game. I'm as inexperienced as you guys. DO NOT SHEEP ME. I'm alarmed how many people followed me onto Adam and BByte without good analysis of their own.

Think for yourself. Get in the practice with it, or the mafia will confuse is and shit on us.