On December 05 2011 11:49 xsksc wrote:This is my list of reads/thoughts/general opinnions about people for the first half of day 1.
Adam4167Possible lynchLooks like a major candidate for the lynch at the moment. I wouldn't strongly disagree with this, his small ammount of posts don't bode well for him. I do have trouble believing a noobie scum would actively pick a fight with 2 of towns leading figures, that doesn't make sense to me.
BByteUnsureHe has only 4 posts with a decent ammount of content, not a lot to go on.
Velinath seems a bit of a weird target to go after though, and BByte's case on him seems a bit half-assed.
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 09:20 BByte wrote:
My strongest scum read so far is Velinath.
He has been active (very much so actually), but what has he contributed? Some policy discussion, a bit of finger pointing (mostly to spark activity), some fluff. Mostly he has been following other people's ideas, not making his own calls. All of this is something scum could easily do with very little risk.
Then there are a couple of posts of light analysis. His "reads post" sums it up best
How does half town, half null reads with a couple of unsures thrown in help the town in any way? Even those unsure reads are off people who have been previously called out by others. Everything seems very non-committal.
#Vote Velinath
Velinath's posts are a a little fluffy, but I'm not getting a scum read on him, at least not from your case. I don't think Velinath is a good day 1 lynch, at least not for the moment.
BlazinghandLeaning townBlazinghand so far has been very aggressive, which is good for town. He started out a little over-the-top, attacking europeans who were at that time asleep.
He has since made much more sense, forced the lurkers to unburrow, got some active discussion going, which is all pro-town.
Nobody is confirmed town until they flip, but I think he's working hard to be pro-town.
BroodKingEXETown lurker/Maybe ScumA lot of one liners and a list. Really, not a lot to go on with this guy either -_-
Possible candidate for a lurker-lynch, if we go down that path.
ElectricBlackScumThis guy would be a GREAT lynch.
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 10:58 ElectricBlack wrote:
Now I'm not gonna vote him until the morning just to spite you.
I will vote in my own time when I can explain in detail why and how I came to the conclusion. In addition I still have a few people to read up on and form an opinion on, so I might not even end up voting Hassybaby when it comes to it.
He claims to be happy lynching Hassybaby, but when the pressure is put on him to put action behind words, he get's pissed off and doesn't vote to SPITE town? That's so fucking incredibly anti-town. He better have a good defence ready when he wakes up.
ey215Town?First post of his to take note of is this :
Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 14:55 ey215 wrote:
Posting in between games of LoL.
So, we're asked our opinion on what we think about LaL and lynching lurkers, I share mine and then get called out for doing nothing but posting fluff? Would you rather we discuss the weather or just /random a lynch for the first day? The reason I talked about common sense is the last game youngmini got a lot of support for being lynched (Palmar mayor killed him) for essentially a misstatement.
Yes, that kind of stuff does need to be pointed out. There's no reason to lynch someone for a misstatement. It is not unwritten or does not go without saying unless we actually agree to it.
As for you're statements about lynching all lurkers unless someone gives you a "DAMN GOOD REASON', well having a scumread is one. Am I good with lynching a lurker today, sure but let's not go talking about how you've got a good scum read on anyone that's posted once.
Fuck, I can say you've hardly posted anything but baseless accusations therefore you're scum just trying to get the town fighting among themselves. Not to mention you're trying to get a bandwagon started on someone for either not posting because they're asleep or because of some assumed fluff.
I'm fine with a lurker today, but I'm not deciding on which until closer to the deadline.
He's very defensive at the slightest pressure, which is interesting, but by itself isn't scummy.
His later posts look pro-town
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 07:00 ey215 wrote:
No one is looking for a lurker to lynch. Go back and read my filter I have argued that we need to be looking at quality of posts over quantity of posts. With that being said, it's hard as hell to have a solid scum read on anyone day one, and if I have to make a choice I'm choosing someone not posting, or posting hardly anything of consequence to lynch over someone that has been active.
You don't lynch for information, you lynch scum. Barring having a good read, we should get rid of someone not contributing since they're not doing anything to help the town anyways.
I haven't seen anything really suspicious or scummy out of him. On my townie list for now.
Grackaroni Hassybaby Jaybrundage xtfftcNeutralThese guys all seem to fall under the same category. They aren't looking incredibly pro-town, but there's not much scummy about them either. I'll leave them here for now.
TunkegSuspiciousThis guy jumps straight into the thread, with his first post being a list of reads.
Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 20:58 Tunkeg wrote:
Hi guys, then I am up and awake, and have read through the entire thread.
Lynch all liars/Lynch all lurkers
My view here is lynch all confirmed liars, if you claim something that is proven wrong you must die. On lynch all lurkers, all non-poster/few posts must die. Thats all I have to say about policy lynches.
Now for the game so far, this is my view:
Adam 4167: Did the first post of the thread and a policy post. Not much content this far. That beeing said he is from Australia and have probably slept through most of the game this far.
Grackorini: Made some filler post and some policy lynch posts this far. Would like to see him get more into the game.
Velinath: Is the big time poster in this game so far, together with Blazinghand and ey215. In the beginning alot of no-content posts and alot of posts about policy lynches. Have picked it up by the end of this thread, and are actually beeing helpful for town now.
xtfftc Besides one post discussing policy votes the rest of the post have been filler posts. Expect him to get more active now as he is EU.
xsksc: Is taking on the role of an educator this far. Telling us noobs how this game works. This gives him a strong position, and a easily abused position. So far his posts have been educationally and only that. I expect more from a "veteran" like you. Post some analysis, do more, help us scumhunt!
jaybrundage: The dissapointment of the game this far (strong words, but I think jaybrundage can take it). He is also a veteran, and should now that posting quality stuff is important. As of now there have been alot of filler posts.
ey215: After Blazinghand started pressure him he have started making posts that benefits town. Abit defensive and emotional.
Blazinghand: MVP of the game thus far. He is pressuring people and is the one getting the discussions started. I like this agressive play, town needs it! That beeing said, it can quickly go over the top and go from beeing pro town, to making a bad town environment.
BroodKingEXE Mostly filler posts. Have already been pressured, and rightfully so. Need to start making usefull posts.
Bbyte, ElectricBlack and Hassybaby Time to wake up and post!
4 posts later....
Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 00:02 Tunkeg wrote:Of course.
Some of the answers I have asked I have summarized in my opening post. But I will be more spesific about my thoughts on players alignment and who I at this moment would lynch if I had:
AlignmentFor a starter I don't think the scum players have been all that active yet.
Adam4167 Neutral. Got to little info on him, only 2 posts. Abit scummy that he makes the first post after the game starts, and then do nothing (almost) when the discussions get going.
Grackorini Neutral. Not a whole lot of posts here either. Mainly policy posts, but I agree on his point of view here. And I am leaning town here.
Velinath Neutral. Leaning town. Alot of posts, some of them I see as pro town, but also alot of fillers whic I see as pro scum.
xtfftc Neutral. Abit to many policy posts for my liking. The other posts are ok/good. Especially this last post where you called me out I see as very pro-town (Unless you are scum and think my ramblings are bad for town
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xsksc Scum. If I had to pick three scums right now xsksc would be my third pick, I'd say more based on a hunch and not so much reasoning. It is his way of gaining trust, while not really providing any pressure to anyone or other pro town activities.
jaybrundage Scum. "Veteran", posts to little and with to little content, should know that thats anti-town.
ey215 Town. Even though coming of as very defensive, his posts so far says town to me. He is balancing out Blazinghand.
Blazinghand Town. Aggreessive play, scumhunting. May be spreading his votes around to much, but for now I see him as the most towniest.
BroodKingEXE Neutral, leaning scum. He is posting far to little, but I think it is because he is new. Hopefully if more people challange him with direct questions it will be easier to get a read on him. He is the fourth scummiest though.
ElectricBlack Neutral. One post, hard to say anything. Needs to post more or be considered a lurker.
Hassybaby Scum. Another veteran, and this one have not posted yet.
[b]Bbyte[b] Neutral, leaning town. Not many posts yet. But seems open and are answering questions given to him.
Trust and lynchAt this point I trust no one, I know to little yet.
For lynch I would go for either jaybrundage or Hassybaby at this point. They need to step up their game or GTFO.
Suddenly I go from "town educator" in your first list to being on your scum list based off a hunch. Between the time of your two read posts, what did I post to change your mind so drastically? Where did you get this "hunch"? This is what I find suspicious, in a short ammount of time your reads change for almost no reason, with nothing to back it up, please provide more reasoning and analysis as to why you came to those conclusions in the future.
Velinath
Leaning townIt's been mentioned that this guy seems to be echoing what others have already said. I wouldn't disagree with this, but I'm not putting him on my scum list just because he posts fluff. At least he IS posting a large ammount, which gives us more stuff to work with on day 2 than the guys with 5-10 posts. He's active, and he's trying to be pro-town. I'll put him on the townie list for now.
I think that's everyone, so far the game has been good for town I think, plenty of discussion and pressure.
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