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On November 25 2011 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist what do you think of sandro/palmar/youngminii?
Of all the people you mentioned, I am the least susicious of sandroba. His posts are all very honest attempts to bring order into the thread, and ask people to use logic. Palmar is a null read at the moment for me. His campain has a lot of "im bad at scum, im good at town, therefore elect me because you'll be able to tell if im town or not." someone has already pointed out that he actually is pretty good at scum, and i think sandro also said that palmar can scumhunt just as well without mayor.
Youngminii I am highly suspicious of atm. He fights hard against palmar's mayorhood, but then backtracks and says he will elect him mayor if he will lynch BC? if you really dont want palmar in office that bad, you dont just cave in to get an easy lynch on someone.
More analysis to come as the day goes on, did that answer your question though WBG?
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On November 25 2011 09:21 redFF wrote:
no you're not
hahaha
remember that time in resurrection when you called me bad for not being able to push my (correct) scum read of ON on day 1?
Remember that time, only two days later, when you got lynched for being a total dumbass and then harassed me on IRC for "catching all the scum" when you were convinced Ace was scum?
Remember that time I caught Jackal and proved you were full of shit?
Oh right, you probably don't, because you have the mental capacity of a goldfish.
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On November 25 2011 09:21 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist what do you think of sandro/palmar/youngminii? Of all the people you mentioned, I am the least susicious of sandroba. His posts are all very honest attempts to bring order into the thread, and ask people to use logic. Palmar is a null read at the moment for me. His campain has a lot of "im bad at scum, im good at town, therefore elect me because you'll be able to tell if im town or not." someone has already pointed out that he actually is pretty good at scum, and i think sandro also said that palmar can scumhunt just as well without mayor. Youngminii I am highly suspicious of atm. He fights hard against palmar's mayorhood, but then backtracks and says he will elect him mayor if he will lynch BC? if you really dont want palmar in office that bad, you dont just cave in to get an easy lynch on someone. More analysis to come as the day goes on, did that answer your question though WBG?
Youngminii is the one who pointed out Palmar is good at scum, which is precisely why I don't think the attack on Palmar is worth listening to.
But yeah, that answers it well, and I like your answers.
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WBG, this only serves to derail the thread, surely you can see that?
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he started it!
no but really, I'm just ensuring no one listens to redFF.
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On November 25 2011 09:24 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:21 GreYMisT wrote:On November 25 2011 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist what do you think of sandro/palmar/youngminii? Of all the people you mentioned, I am the least susicious of sandroba. His posts are all very honest attempts to bring order into the thread, and ask people to use logic. Palmar is a null read at the moment for me. His campain has a lot of "im bad at scum, im good at town, therefore elect me because you'll be able to tell if im town or not." someone has already pointed out that he actually is pretty good at scum, and i think sandro also said that palmar can scumhunt just as well without mayor. Youngminii I am highly suspicious of atm. He fights hard against palmar's mayorhood, but then backtracks and says he will elect him mayor if he will lynch BC? if you really dont want palmar in office that bad, you dont just cave in to get an easy lynch on someone. More analysis to come as the day goes on, did that answer your question though WBG? Youngminii is the one who pointed out Palmar is good at scum, which is precisely why I don't think the attack on Palmar is worth listening to. But yeah, that answers it well, and I like your answers.
Im glad you like them, i wrote them specially for you.
On topic: The fact that it was youngminii who pointed out that palmar was scum serves to increase my suspicions of him. why point that out if you are willing to elect him based on who he will lynch?
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Has the voting begun or do we have to wait for the thread? I see people saying ##(name here) or are the voting threads just for lynches?
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you vote in the voting thread for elections as well. people type that in the thread for emphasis
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On November 25 2011 09:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
he started it!
no but really, I'm just ensuring no one listens to redFF.
This is anti-town.
+ Show Spoiler +inb4 "I'm ignoring you this game"
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On November 25 2011 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:24 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 09:21 GreYMisT wrote:On November 25 2011 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist what do you think of sandro/palmar/youngminii? Of all the people you mentioned, I am the least susicious of sandroba. His posts are all very honest attempts to bring order into the thread, and ask people to use logic. Palmar is a null read at the moment for me. His campain has a lot of "im bad at scum, im good at town, therefore elect me because you'll be able to tell if im town or not." someone has already pointed out that he actually is pretty good at scum, and i think sandro also said that palmar can scumhunt just as well without mayor. Youngminii I am highly suspicious of atm. He fights hard against palmar's mayorhood, but then backtracks and says he will elect him mayor if he will lynch BC? if you really dont want palmar in office that bad, you dont just cave in to get an easy lynch on someone. More analysis to come as the day goes on, did that answer your question though WBG? Youngminii is the one who pointed out Palmar is good at scum, which is precisely why I don't think the attack on Palmar is worth listening to. But yeah, that answers it well, and I like your answers. Im glad you like them, i wrote them specially for you. On topic: The fact that it was youngminii who pointed out that palmar was scum serves to increase my suspicions of him. why point that out if you are willing to elect him based on who he will lynch?
Wait what? Why point out that youngminii attacked Palmar? I'm not understanding your question.
On November 25 2011 09:26 zJayy962 wrote:
Has the voting begun or do we have to wait for the thread? I see people saying ##(name here) or are the voting threads just for lynches?
People are copying their votes in here for clarity, because generally they provide explanations for the votes in here. I would suggest doing that so people don't suspect that you are scum for ninja voting. They WILL eventually see if you vote in that thread without posting why in here.
The only official vote will be the one in the voting thread.
All voting for mayoral candidates and lynches happens in the voting thread. Today we vote for the mayor, so all day 1 votes go toward selecting the mayor.
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On November 25 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:hahaha remember that time in resurrection when you called me bad for not being able to push my (correct) scum read of ON on day 1? Remember that time, only two days later, when you got lynched for being a total dumbass and then harassed me on IRC for "catching all the scum" when you were convinced Ace was scum? Remember that time I caught Jackal and proved you were full of shit? Oh right, you probably don't, because you have the mental capacity of a goldfish.
ace was being weird and scummy on purpose and my claim caught the other 2 scum so i don't see your point.
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On November 25 2011 09:28 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
he started it!
no but really, I'm just ensuring no one listens to redFF. This is anti-town. + Show Spoiler +inb4 "I'm ignoring you this game"
as long as you don't use terrible logic you have no fear of being ignored.
Although I'll be honest, I have very little hope for you.
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On November 25 2011 09:28 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 09:21 redFF wrote:
no you're not hahaha remember that time in resurrection when you called me bad for not being able to push my (correct) scum read of ON on day 1? Remember that time, only two days later, when you got lynched for being a total dumbass and then harassed me on IRC for "catching all the scum" when you were convinced Ace was scum? Remember that time I caught Jackal and proved you were full of shit? Oh right, you probably don't, because you have the mental capacity of a goldfish. ace was being weird and scummy on purpose and my claim caught the other 2 scum so i don't see your point.
derp derp derp?
nope, it didn't. Palmar, sandro, and I were the driving force behind the lynch of ON+bum and you were just a complete retard.
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On November 25 2011 09:28 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:On November 25 2011 09:24 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 09:21 GreYMisT wrote:On November 25 2011 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist what do you think of sandro/palmar/youngminii? Of all the people you mentioned, I am the least susicious of sandroba. His posts are all very honest attempts to bring order into the thread, and ask people to use logic. Palmar is a null read at the moment for me. His campain has a lot of "im bad at scum, im good at town, therefore elect me because you'll be able to tell if im town or not." someone has already pointed out that he actually is pretty good at scum, and i think sandro also said that palmar can scumhunt just as well without mayor. Youngminii I am highly suspicious of atm. He fights hard against palmar's mayorhood, but then backtracks and says he will elect him mayor if he will lynch BC? if you really dont want palmar in office that bad, you dont just cave in to get an easy lynch on someone. More analysis to come as the day goes on, did that answer your question though WBG? Youngminii is the one who pointed out Palmar is good at scum, which is precisely why I don't think the attack on Palmar is worth listening to. But yeah, that answers it well, and I like your answers. Im glad you like them, i wrote them specially for you. On topic: The fact that it was youngminii who pointed out that palmar was scum serves to increase my suspicions of him. why point that out if you are willing to elect him based on who he will lynch? Wait what? Why point out that youngminii attacked Palmar? I'm not understanding your question. Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:26 zJayy962 wrote:
Has the voting begun or do we have to wait for the thread? I see people saying ##(name here) or are the voting threads just for lynches? People are copying their votes in here for clarity, because generally they provide explanations for the votes in here. I would suggest doing that so people don't suspect that you are scum for ninja voting. They WILL eventually see if you vote in that thread without posting why in here. The only official vote will be the one in the voting thread. All voting for mayoral candidates and lynches happens in the voting thread. Today we vote for the mayor, so all day 1 votes go toward selecting the mayor.
that question was rethorical and not ment for you. i was pointing out the weirdness in Youngminii's behaviour
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On November 25 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
you got lynched for being a total dumbass
you were full of shit?
you have the mental capacity of a goldfish.
On November 25 2011 09:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
you were just a complete retard.
Whatever about anything else, I'd be happy to lynch you for this alone. It doesn't help anything.
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On November 25 2011 09:33 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
you got lynched for being a total dumbass
you were full of shit?
you have the mental capacity of a goldfish. Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
you were just a complete retard.
Whatever about anything else, I'd be happy to lynch you for this alone. It doesn't help anything.
way to read one side of the argument, decon.
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I'm going to change my vote to palmar right now
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On November 25 2011 09:38 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:33 deconduo wrote:On November 25 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
you got lynched for being a total dumbass
you were full of shit?
you have the mental capacity of a goldfish. On November 25 2011 09:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
you were just a complete retard.
Whatever about anything else, I'd be happy to lynch you for this alone. It doesn't help anything. way to read one side of the argument, decon.
I was only going off this page, but yes, redFF isn't helping either, though he isn't as bad as you:
On November 25 2011 09:14 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 09:10 redFF wrote:
sore loser is sore bad player is bad you've been here like a month, go fuck yourself seriously.
On November 25 2011 09:10 redFF wrote:
sore loser is sore
On November 25 2011 09:10 wherebugsgo wrote:bad player is bad
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On November 24 2011 23:16 bonifaceviii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 21:15 hyshes wrote:
I've totally a null read on anybody. If this isn't changing, i'm gonna vote randomly for mayor (we outnumber the scum, so playing the game of numbers) But i do hope i can make a logical decision. Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 23:10 hyshes wrote:
I voted errandor just to have a vote atm. Probably will change. I'm not sure this is scummy or not, but it's definitely dumb.
hyshes played very poorly the last game we were in, probably just keeping up appearances IMO
On November 25 2011 04:25 Nokarot wrote:Woke up from a pre-thanksgiving nap and came back to a good 5+ pages of conversation. + Show Spoiler [youngminii contradiction] +On November 24 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:
See you guys have already been sucked in by Palmar's smooth talking. When did I ever say Palmar's scum is better than his town? That's just a strawman that Palmar invented to make his own points stronger.
On November 24 2011 18:37 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad
Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory. You have so much sway with the majority of people that if anyone actually calls you out once you have your tight rein on town, you'll get your herd to quick lynch the offender. As minus_human initially pointed out, this is quite a slip up. I'm not sure it defines him as mafia, but it certainly makes me question his credibility in making accusations. I said if YM failed to convince me I might be inclined to change my vote from prplhz to Palmar. I'm not quite ready to do that yet, because I feel prplhz has said some additional things that make sense to me, but I am willing to dismiss any suspicions against Palmar. ______________________________________ Ultimately, my main concern now for picking Palmar is the "what if" factor. What if he is mafia? Even if his former mafia play is poor, as he claims, people evolve and learn. The simple fact is that if a veteran becomes mayor and ends up being mafia, I trust them above anyone else to be careful enough to hide themselves, even whilst they are under extreme scrutiny. On the other hand, what if he is town? He claims to be an excellent mafia hunter. Making him mayor would prove a valuable asset, as he would presumably have bodyguards to keep him alive and do his job. If he wasn't elected mayor as a town, from what I understand, veterans townies are often first-turn targets. Unfortunately, I fall under a mindset of "plan for the worst, hope for the best." The 5:1 town to mafia ratio may or may not include RNG veteran dispersion. On the chance it doesn't, the odds shift in a way I'm not comfortable with them shifting. That goes for any veteran, not just Palmar. Some people have claimed to play a few games with prplhz, but I gather he is less of a veteran than others. In hindsight, I believe his policies require some revision, but I still believe his words to be very town-like. supersoft and redFF have quoted prplhz in saying that he is appealing to a newbies emotions to gather votes and not logic. I don't quite read him that way- when prplhz said "If you are afraid that you might make a silly mistake because this is your first game, and scum will jump on you for it and try to get you lynched, you need to vote me for mayor" I do see the emotional connotations behind it, but the logic as well. He is willing to apply critical thinking before incriminating a newbie for a minor mistake, where others with LaLiars policies may automatically assume newbie mistakes are evidence of mafia affiliation (man, I really hate the words scum/scummy.) My vote stays with prplhz for now- however, is still very up for grabs. I think it is safe to say I won't vote for Palmar, though- not because he doesn't make good arguments, but because of my maybe-irrational "what if" fear.
I should note the italicized part, because it sounds like you know something about the scum count versus town...
Right now, I'm still voting Sandroba over Palmar because I think that Palmar would make a better jailer than a mayor; and that Sandroba is more level-headed yet has the same overall plan that Palmar has.
Specifically, I have concerns that I think should be addressed by town as well, since they are linked to the mayoralty race we have right now.
1. How are we to pick the Sheriff of the town? The role can make or break the mayor and his ability to help guide town in two ways; by increasing his survivability through jailing people who might be potential threats or need saving, and by ensuring that no leaks in the mayor's protection are present. If the Sheriff turns out to be scum, it would be trivial to take out the Mayor and his bodyguards and render our voting useless today.
2. What would be potential candidates' policy be on multiple lynchings? Are there concrete plans already in the works that you wish to tell us, or will you be playing it by ear and timing it for days where there are clearly multiple lynching candidates that need to be run up?
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So much nonsense bickering going on. Are redff and wbg both "veterans"? because they aren't putting on a great example for newbs in this thread.
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