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On November 30 2011 14:55 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:52 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:42 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:36 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
these 7:
Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
Serejai
vaderseven
Ciryandor
ey215
voted in the vote thread at the last minute and should be killed just based on that. That's why they are all first on my vig list.
prplhz
Hier
Benjef
Steveling
These four based on analysis, and voting palmar.
AmericanUmlaut
Soap
these two for voting me, and voting palmar. Also uselessness.
Coagulation
Lemonwalrus
Both for being useless.
Vigilantes, take my list and shoot into it based on your position in the player list. This will ensure that shots do not overlap.
Medics please protect me.
Sigh, again look at the vote. If I was scum wouldn't I have voted BC on my switch instead of prpl? Use your head. Vigs I have no problem with the other six, but you'll be wasting a shot on me and I don't want that. no. You die with them. I don't give a shit for your excuses, you voted me yesterday based on terrible reasons and you were caught ninja voting when you shouldn't have been. NO ONE gets away with that this time, you ninja vote, you die. DIE SCUM DIE Right and now you're using terrible logic to try to get rid of someone that's actually fought back against you. It's the same reason you've decided anyone voting for you must be scum. You're just looking for control and vengeance. Oh well, it's on you when I flip town. the chance of you flipping town is less than 10% at this point. No one who votes in the thread with 6 other people in a massive vote switch off (now confirmed) scum right before/after the deadline gets away unscathed. Even if you were a townie that was a retarded move. You don't get to live for doing that. Sigh, I switched off you to the same damn person you voted for. What reason would I have to do that when I could have been the deciding vote against BC if I was mafia? Are you saying BC is mafia even after that shit they just pulled? I mean come on, think for a minute. Whatever I would have ended up on your list even if I hadn't. You decided I was scum the minute I bothered to speak up against you, just like other townies. Way to keep up a collaborative atmosphere. Vigs, don't listen to him about me. I am town. No, I gave you the damn benefit of the doubt. Not my fault you screwed yourself by voting at a time when 6 scum were saving their buddy. For all I'm concerned everyone who voted in that thread 2-3 minutes before/after the deadline is scum. And yet risen has already flipped town? Don't you see the fallacy of this thinking yet?
RISEN DID NOT VOTE WITH YOU
-_-
he edited a post. That's why he was modkilled.
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On November 30 2011 14:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:49 Serejai wrote:
I'm just going to afk until the day post while you guys have a dick waving contest or whatever it is you're doing. I feel at this point wherebugsgo has brainwashed all of the new players with his mafia agenda so much that it's just going to be a lot of sheeping tonight.
Look forward to the drama when me and probably most other people on his list flip green/blue tomorrow. Hopefully a townie can step up and help sway people towards killing wherebugsgo soon or we're not going to have a chance of winning. vaderseven kenpachi ciry sprungejeezy lemonwalrus coagulation Those should be the priority shots. I want to add kurumi purely for trolling and serejei play more non trollish  The last two names on my list are both lurking as hell so LURKER VIGI"S SHOOT THEM. Our reg vigi's should clear the ones who have been active enough to dodge a lurker shot.
I'm actually not really trolling. I mean, I've had a few posts... but everyone I've listed as mafia thus far I 100% believe to be mafia. I'm just really, really terrible at this game apparently. Now my last game... THAT was trolling -_-
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I'm still so baffled. I cannot fathom why scum would do such a thing. I do not disagree with parts of WBG's hitlist (especially the useless people), but I personally do not think BC is mafia.
I'll be back when it's morning in my timezone.
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On November 30 2011 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop calling me dbg damn it
I already posted one earlier.There were 7 people involved.
The thing is that it's very scummy for people to have been on both Palmar and me, because voting me was essentially an abstention. Both cases were total trash and only supported because Ace was an idiot.
I want to hear what sandro has to say. That slippery bastard left the thread over 9 hours ago. He hasn't done anything yet.
He very well could be scum too, but gah...idk...this vote switch incriminates so many people, I just can't wrap my head around a gamble that stupid.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that BC is scum. Otherwise why would such a huge gambit be necessary?If BC is scum he's easily the most important scum member and he'd definitely be worth 10 other scum, let alone 6.
I can't believe this, are you actually making these leaps of logic that BC is scum because of that obvious gambit TO KILL HIM? 3 of the people that I completely agree with you are scum (Ciry, Kenpachi, vader), had their vote on him. One more vote off zeks and on him would have killed him, and by the last minute votes, scum were CLEARLY not trying to save BC at all.
Please stop pushing a case them makes absolutely no sense, you are much smarter then this.
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On November 30 2011 14:54 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop calling me dbg damn it
I already posted one earlier.There were 7 people involved.
The thing is that it's very scummy for people to have been on both Palmar and me, because voting me was essentially an abstention. Both cases were total trash and only supported because Ace was an idiot.
I want to hear what sandro has to say. That slippery bastard left the thread over 9 hours ago. He hasn't done anything yet.
He very well could be scum too, but gah...idk...this vote switch incriminates so many people, I just can't wrap my head around a gamble that stupid.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that BC is scum. Otherwise why would such a huge gambit be necessary?If BC is scum he's easily the most important scum member and he'd definitely be worth 10 other scum, let alone 6.
Dude, As scum with the names of the bodyguards palmar would be dead night 1. Period, dead. As i said earlier in the thread I would have been lynched instantly and I would have lul's you to hell. no because you would be an autolynch day 2 if that were to happen. Don't be stupid, this is terrible reasoning.
No its not? day 2 deny double lynch, remove 8 town players factor in modkills, misslynch day 1? You'd be fucked right now and you know it. All of day 1 would have been made useless and double lynches would be instantly locked as of day 2 lynch. Unless town is stacked with vigi's who shoot properly or loaded with medics who make amazing saves chances are double lynches are needed. Me for locking down that much town kp is worth it. Factor in that I have no idea if any or how many of the bgs are red? I potentially could have still been killing the mayor + a ton of vets. The tradeoff to trade 1 for a fuck ton of people would have been worth it.
Did you read the last game where I was scum? I personally directed a town suicide hater onto a lurking mafia (the first mafia death of the game) purely to gain town cred and make sure his hit did not hit an active member of my team. Trading 1 mafia for insane chaos / tons of town deaths is worth the trade regardless of who the mafia member is.
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On November 30 2011 14:58 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop calling me dbg damn it
I already posted one earlier.There were 7 people involved.
The thing is that it's very scummy for people to have been on both Palmar and me, because voting me was essentially an abstention. Both cases were total trash and only supported because Ace was an idiot.
I want to hear what sandro has to say. That slippery bastard left the thread over 9 hours ago. He hasn't done anything yet.
He very well could be scum too, but gah...idk...this vote switch incriminates so many people, I just can't wrap my head around a gamble that stupid.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that BC is scum. Otherwise why would such a huge gambit be necessary?If BC is scum he's easily the most important scum member and he'd definitely be worth 10 other scum, let alone 6.
I can't believe this, are you actually making these leaps of logic that BC is scum because of that obvious gambit TO KILL HIM? 3 of the people that I completely agree with you are scum (Ciry, Kenpachi, vader), had their vote on him. One more vote off zeks and on him would have killed him, and by the last minute votes, scum were CLEARLY not trying to save BC at all. Please stop pushing a case them makes absolutely no sense, you are much smarter then this.
you're also looking pretty bad scumatlarge
On November 30 2011 11:48 bumatlarge wrote:
wow douche move bro, douche move
##Unvote supersoft
##Vote: palmar
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On November 30 2011 14:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:51 vaderseven wrote:
You were the one protecting him yet you said like the most retarded scummy coverupish thing about his softclaim.
You said it was good play to fool people with. The only people a softclaim like that fools is COPS.
You said its smart (i think you said clever actually) to do what he did. There is nothing pro town about what zeks did there unless you peg him as dumb and not knowing that miller is like an exclusive role and instead some kind of random status that may be hidden even. You never once bring that up. Its just instead well a miller claim will fool the mafia and the evidence on him is just clues which isn't good at all. what I am saying is this. IF you thought I was mafia and that I was not being logical. then why the hell would you decide to believe he was town? I was the only one defending him and you just said his defenses were bad so were mine. Yet you pulled your vote off. That is scummy as hell.
I tried to feed you the idea of the soft claim being the key thing to look at and you totally handled that in the scummiest way. Thats my point. You were defending zeks and saying things like this:
On November 30 2011 11:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
How is hiding you have a blue role anti town? Seriously. Claiming miller/vanilla for purposes where he said he thought a dt checked him is fine. It would explain why someone received a red check from him.
Palmar has done more than lie...
I mention how he went from softclaim miller to fricking vigi and you say thats fine he was prolly trying to explaing a red result.
Totally dumb and yet you couldnt be bother to care about that or anything else really because you were making your case on Palmer even as the votes were bleeding off of him.
I would say alof of those votes bled off cuz of how bad your case looked too.
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On November 30 2011 14:56 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 14:49 Serejai wrote:
I'm just going to afk until the day post while you guys have a dick waving contest or whatever it is you're doing. I feel at this point wherebugsgo has brainwashed all of the new players with his mafia agenda so much that it's just going to be a lot of sheeping tonight.
Look forward to the drama when me and probably most other people on his list flip green/blue tomorrow. Hopefully a townie can step up and help sway people towards killing wherebugsgo soon or we're not going to have a chance of winning. vaderseven kenpachi ciry sprungejeezy lemonwalrus coagulation Those should be the priority shots. I want to add kurumi purely for trolling and serejei play more non trollish The last two names on my list are both lurking as hell so LURKER VIGI"S SHOOT THEM. Our reg vigi's should clear the ones who have been active enough to dodge a lurker shot. I'm actually not really trolling. I mean, I've had a few posts... but everyone I've listed as mafia thus far I 100% believe to be mafia. I'm just really, really terrible at this game apparently. Now my last game... THAT was trolling -_-
yes, yes it was.
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On November 30 2011 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:55 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:52 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:42 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:36 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
these 7:
Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
Serejai
vaderseven
Ciryandor
ey215
voted in the vote thread at the last minute and should be killed just based on that. That's why they are all first on my vig list.
prplhz
Hier
Benjef
Steveling
These four based on analysis, and voting palmar.
AmericanUmlaut
Soap
these two for voting me, and voting palmar. Also uselessness.
Coagulation
Lemonwalrus
Both for being useless.
Vigilantes, take my list and shoot into it based on your position in the player list. This will ensure that shots do not overlap.
Medics please protect me.
Sigh, again look at the vote. If I was scum wouldn't I have voted BC on my switch instead of prpl? Use your head. Vigs I have no problem with the other six, but you'll be wasting a shot on me and I don't want that. no. You die with them. I don't give a shit for your excuses, you voted me yesterday based on terrible reasons and you were caught ninja voting when you shouldn't have been. NO ONE gets away with that this time, you ninja vote, you die. DIE SCUM DIE Right and now you're using terrible logic to try to get rid of someone that's actually fought back against you. It's the same reason you've decided anyone voting for you must be scum. You're just looking for control and vengeance. Oh well, it's on you when I flip town. the chance of you flipping town is less than 10% at this point. No one who votes in the thread with 6 other people in a massive vote switch off (now confirmed) scum right before/after the deadline gets away unscathed. Even if you were a townie that was a retarded move. You don't get to live for doing that. Sigh, I switched off you to the same damn person you voted for. What reason would I have to do that when I could have been the deciding vote against BC if I was mafia? Are you saying BC is mafia even after that shit they just pulled? I mean come on, think for a minute. Whatever I would have ended up on your list even if I hadn't. You decided I was scum the minute I bothered to speak up against you, just like other townies. Way to keep up a collaborative atmosphere. Vigs, don't listen to him about me. I am town. No, I gave you the damn benefit of the doubt. Not my fault you screwed yourself by voting at a time when 6 scum were saving their buddy. For all I'm concerned everyone who voted in that thread 2-3 minutes before/after the deadline is scum. And yet risen has already flipped town? Don't you see the fallacy of this thinking yet? RISEN DID NOT VOTE WITH YOU -_- he edited a post. That's why he was modkilled.
Oh ok.
So noone on that was paying attention and cared enough to micro manage thier vote as things changed rapid fire has flipped?
I guess the point is really the same as mine.
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On November 30 2011 14:51 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:49 Serejai wrote:
I'm just going to afk until the day post while you guys have a dick waving contest or whatever it is you're doing. I feel at this point wherebugsgo has brainwashed all of the new players with his mafia agenda so much that it's just going to be a lot of sheeping tonight.
Look forward to the drama when me and probably most other people on his list flip green/blue tomorrow. Hopefully a townie can step up and help sway people towards killing wherebugsgo soon or we're not going to have a chance of winning. I was actually thinkinh you were town before before that vote dude. What would possess you to make that vote other then being mafia?
As I said earlier, I kinda just wanted to see a three way tie. Curiosity got the best of me and I wanted to know what would happen if they tied. It didn't even occur to me that mafia might bandwagon on to Palmar, mostly because I thought Palmar was mafia myself and if anything I expected more votes to go on BC because he was rising in votes very quickly. But then all of a sudden everyone switched to Palmar.
To be perfectly honest I fucked up and didn't really think that through at all. As a result of Palmar flipping town, I'm questioning all of my previous reads as well. The only ones I'm still confident of are Kenpachi, vaderseven, Lemonwalrus+coag (at least one of these two is mafia), and I really want to say wherebugsgo but I'm starting to think he's town, too.
Oh, and supersoft. That guy is for sure mafia. The other guys like redFF, Kurumi, and sandroba I'm starting to think may actually be town because I can't find enough evidence to convince myself they're still scum after my blunder with reading Palmar.
Take it as you will though. I'm a bad player so it's not like shooting/lynching me would be a game ender for town anyway.
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On November 30 2011 15:01 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:55 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:52 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:42 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:36 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
these 7:
Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
Serejai
vaderseven
Ciryandor
ey215
voted in the vote thread at the last minute and should be killed just based on that. That's why they are all first on my vig list.
prplhz
Hier
Benjef
Steveling
These four based on analysis, and voting palmar.
AmericanUmlaut
Soap
these two for voting me, and voting palmar. Also uselessness.
Coagulation
Lemonwalrus
Both for being useless.
Vigilantes, take my list and shoot into it based on your position in the player list. This will ensure that shots do not overlap.
Medics please protect me.
Sigh, again look at the vote. If I was scum wouldn't I have voted BC on my switch instead of prpl? Use your head. Vigs I have no problem with the other six, but you'll be wasting a shot on me and I don't want that. no. You die with them. I don't give a shit for your excuses, you voted me yesterday based on terrible reasons and you were caught ninja voting when you shouldn't have been. NO ONE gets away with that this time, you ninja vote, you die. DIE SCUM DIE Right and now you're using terrible logic to try to get rid of someone that's actually fought back against you. It's the same reason you've decided anyone voting for you must be scum. You're just looking for control and vengeance. Oh well, it's on you when I flip town. the chance of you flipping town is less than 10% at this point. No one who votes in the thread with 6 other people in a massive vote switch off (now confirmed) scum right before/after the deadline gets away unscathed. Even if you were a townie that was a retarded move. You don't get to live for doing that. Sigh, I switched off you to the same damn person you voted for. What reason would I have to do that when I could have been the deciding vote against BC if I was mafia? Are you saying BC is mafia even after that shit they just pulled? I mean come on, think for a minute. Whatever I would have ended up on your list even if I hadn't. You decided I was scum the minute I bothered to speak up against you, just like other townies. Way to keep up a collaborative atmosphere. Vigs, don't listen to him about me. I am town. No, I gave you the damn benefit of the doubt. Not my fault you screwed yourself by voting at a time when 6 scum were saving their buddy. For all I'm concerned everyone who voted in that thread 2-3 minutes before/after the deadline is scum. And yet risen has already flipped town? Don't you see the fallacy of this thinking yet? RISEN DID NOT VOTE WITH YOU -_- he edited a post. That's why he was modkilled. Oh ok. So noone on that was paying attention and cared enough to micro manage thier vote as things changed rapid fire has flipped? I guess the point is really the same as mine.
had he not edited his post I was dead, pure and simple. Within seconds of his "vote" on me you and 4 other people did a mass vote switch almost saving zeks and killing me + palmar.
You are very obviously scum, sit down and take your death like a man,
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On November 30 2011 14:59 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:58 bumatlarge wrote:On November 30 2011 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop calling me dbg damn it
I already posted one earlier.There were 7 people involved.
The thing is that it's very scummy for people to have been on both Palmar and me, because voting me was essentially an abstention. Both cases were total trash and only supported because Ace was an idiot.
I want to hear what sandro has to say. That slippery bastard left the thread over 9 hours ago. He hasn't done anything yet.
He very well could be scum too, but gah...idk...this vote switch incriminates so many people, I just can't wrap my head around a gamble that stupid.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that BC is scum. Otherwise why would such a huge gambit be necessary?If BC is scum he's easily the most important scum member and he'd definitely be worth 10 other scum, let alone 6.
I can't believe this, are you actually making these leaps of logic that BC is scum because of that obvious gambit TO KILL HIM? 3 of the people that I completely agree with you are scum (Ciry, Kenpachi, vader), had their vote on him. One more vote off zeks and on him would have killed him, and by the last minute votes, scum were CLEARLY not trying to save BC at all. Please stop pushing a case them makes absolutely no sense, you are much smarter then this. you're also looking pretty bad scumatlarge Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:48 bumatlarge wrote:
wow douche move bro, douche move
##Unvote supersoft
##Vote: palmar
I explained that vote thoroughly. I felt BC was town over palmar, and 25 minutes before the lynch, zeks looked pretty much like a shoe in lynch. My vote makes perfect sense, since I already had prplhz voted.
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Look guys Im sorry that my 'ah ha gotcha!' play turned out to be dumb over reading and over wifoming of BC/Palmer/Zeks but that doesn't make BC's play of TUNNEL the town mayor with the worst case ever and protecting a player while dismissing the fact that his defense was based on him saying that the player did something scummy and that was good.
BC tunneled Palmer so Much.
Palmer acted like a huge fake emo quit (SERIOUSLLY he does that quit post and even reposts lol as he is slowly bleeding votes and others catch up)
BC defends Zeks saying YA Fake Claiming miller is totally a legit move for a town player, in fact, he is prolly a power role for town.
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Omfg I am really behind in the thread, I have asked for a replacement but I doubt that one is coming. I hate to ask but has anything significant happened in the last 40 pages, or is it just arguing?
...or have I been replaced?
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On November 30 2011 15:04 Nisani201 wrote:
Omfg I am really behind in the thread, I have asked for a replacement but I doubt that one is coming. I hate to ask but has anything significant happened in the last 40 pages, or is it just arguing?
...or have I been replaced?
not replaced
missed voting completely
missed lynch post
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On November 30 2011 15:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 15:01 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:55 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:52 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:42 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:36 ey215 wrote:
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Sigh, again look at the vote. If I was scum wouldn't I have voted BC on my switch instead of prpl? Use your head.
Vigs I have no problem with the other six, but you'll be wasting a shot on me and I don't want that.
no. You die with them. I don't give a shit for your excuses, you voted me yesterday based on terrible reasons and you were caught ninja voting when you shouldn't have been. NO ONE gets away with that this time, you ninja vote, you die. DIE SCUM DIE Right and now you're using terrible logic to try to get rid of someone that's actually fought back against you. It's the same reason you've decided anyone voting for you must be scum. You're just looking for control and vengeance. Oh well, it's on you when I flip town. the chance of you flipping town is less than 10% at this point. No one who votes in the thread with 6 other people in a massive vote switch off (now confirmed) scum right before/after the deadline gets away unscathed. Even if you were a townie that was a retarded move. You don't get to live for doing that. Sigh, I switched off you to the same damn person you voted for. What reason would I have to do that when I could have been the deciding vote against BC if I was mafia? Are you saying BC is mafia even after that shit they just pulled? I mean come on, think for a minute. Whatever I would have ended up on your list even if I hadn't. You decided I was scum the minute I bothered to speak up against you, just like other townies. Way to keep up a collaborative atmosphere. Vigs, don't listen to him about me. I am town. No, I gave you the damn benefit of the doubt. Not my fault you screwed yourself by voting at a time when 6 scum were saving their buddy. For all I'm concerned everyone who voted in that thread 2-3 minutes before/after the deadline is scum. And yet risen has already flipped town? Don't you see the fallacy of this thinking yet? RISEN DID NOT VOTE WITH YOU -_- he edited a post. That's why he was modkilled. Oh ok. So noone on that was paying attention and cared enough to micro manage thier vote as things changed rapid fire has flipped? I guess the point is really the same as mine. had he not edited his post I was dead, pure and simple. Within seconds of his "vote" on me you and 4 other people did a mass vote switch almost saving zeks and killing me + palmar. You are very obviously scum, sit down and take your death like a man,
Men don't die just cuz a bad player calls them out on a mistake.
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On November 30 2011 15:05 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 15:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 15:01 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:55 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 14:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:52 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:42 ey215 wrote:On November 30 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
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no. You die with them.
I don't give a shit for your excuses, you voted me yesterday based on terrible reasons and you were caught ninja voting when you shouldn't have been.
NO ONE gets away with that this time, you ninja vote, you die.
DIE SCUM DIE
Right and now you're using terrible logic to try to get rid of someone that's actually fought back against you. It's the same reason you've decided anyone voting for you must be scum. You're just looking for control and vengeance. Oh well, it's on you when I flip town. the chance of you flipping town is less than 10% at this point. No one who votes in the thread with 6 other people in a massive vote switch off (now confirmed) scum right before/after the deadline gets away unscathed. Even if you were a townie that was a retarded move. You don't get to live for doing that. Sigh, I switched off you to the same damn person you voted for. What reason would I have to do that when I could have been the deciding vote against BC if I was mafia? Are you saying BC is mafia even after that shit they just pulled? I mean come on, think for a minute. Whatever I would have ended up on your list even if I hadn't. You decided I was scum the minute I bothered to speak up against you, just like other townies. Way to keep up a collaborative atmosphere. Vigs, don't listen to him about me. I am town. No, I gave you the damn benefit of the doubt. Not my fault you screwed yourself by voting at a time when 6 scum were saving their buddy. For all I'm concerned everyone who voted in that thread 2-3 minutes before/after the deadline is scum. And yet risen has already flipped town? Don't you see the fallacy of this thinking yet? RISEN DID NOT VOTE WITH YOU -_- he edited a post. That's why he was modkilled. Oh ok. So noone on that was paying attention and cared enough to micro manage thier vote as things changed rapid fire has flipped? I guess the point is really the same as mine. had he not edited his post I was dead, pure and simple. Within seconds of his "vote" on me you and 4 other people did a mass vote switch almost saving zeks and killing me + palmar. You are very obviously scum, sit down and take your death like a man, Men don't die just cuz a bad player calls them out on a mistake.
I am far better than you. Even the best of us make a mistake. Ace is considered one of the best players in our community and even he tunneled palmar.
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On November 30 2011 14:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 14:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
stop calling me dbg damn it
I already posted one earlier.There were 7 people involved.
The thing is that it's very scummy for people to have been on both Palmar and me, because voting me was essentially an abstention. Both cases were total trash and only supported because Ace was an idiot.
I want to hear what sandro has to say. That slippery bastard left the thread over 9 hours ago. He hasn't done anything yet.
He very well could be scum too, but gah...idk...this vote switch incriminates so many people, I just can't wrap my head around a gamble that stupid.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that BC is scum. Otherwise why would such a huge gambit be necessary?If BC is scum he's easily the most important scum member and he'd definitely be worth 10 other scum, let alone 6.
Dude, As scum with the names of the bodyguards palmar would be dead night 1. Period, dead. As i said earlier in the thread I would have been lynched instantly and I would have lul's you to hell. no because you would be an autolynch day 2 if that were to happen. Don't be stupid, this is terrible reasoning. No its not? day 2 deny double lynch, remove 8 town players factor in modkills, misslynch day 1? You'd be fucked right now and you know it. All of day 1 would have been made useless and double lynches would be instantly locked as of day 2 lynch. Unless town is stacked with vigi's who shoot properly or loaded with medics who make amazing saves chances are double lynches are needed. Me for locking down that much town kp is worth it. Factor in that I have no idea if any or how many of the bgs are red? I potentially could have still been killing the mayor + a ton of vets. The tradeoff to trade 1 for a fuck ton of people would have been worth it. Did you read the last game where I was scum? I personally directed a town suicide hater onto a lurking mafia (the first mafia death of the game) purely to gain town cred and make sure his hit did not hit an active member of my team. Trading 1 mafia for insane chaos / tons of town deaths is worth the trade regardless of who the mafia member is.
modkills wtf
Okay so you want me to believe, that scum did this massive gambit, ONLY to kill Palmar....for the lulz?
the top four vote-getters were you, prpl, Palmar, and zeks. Zeks is confirmed scum, Palmar confirmed town.
That most likely means prpl was scum, or you were scum, or both of you were scum.
I'm want to believe that BOTH of you were scum, since your reasoning for defending zeks was piss poor and you are certainly more than capable of looking like town after such a massive ballsy gambit.
Yeah, scum just sacced 6 people but they wouldn't sac 6 people just to kill the mayor. Even if you just kill the mayor with a town sheriff town still has all the double lynches and most of the electoral office power at its disposal. That would be a massively terrible trade seeing as we certainly have vigilantes and that basically just gives them all free shots into the scumpool.
Not all of them will die, certainly, since we don't have a massive amount of vigis and scum surely have medics, but you do NOT look more town after that exchange and gambit, BC.
In addition I think bum actually might be a better choice for vig than ey215.
ey215 has a good point in that he actually didn't switch off zeks onto palmar. He switched onto prpl.
Bum you make some excuse about having a reason for your vote switch but it was obvious that ninja was premeditated. You did it like 10 minutes before lynch and your reasoning was really freaking bad.
Good job on pissing all over Palmar's credibility though, that really worked. Now you have to deal with me, and I don't go down without a fight.
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Since I'm probably gonna die tonight for that analysis on wbg, I might as well claim. I was a detective and I got guilty on wbg. I claimed vet earlier to keep from dying n1. I doubt that I'm paranoid/insane or that he was framed because of his truly scummy play. So, gg all.
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On November 30 2011 15:02 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 14:51 bumatlarge wrote:On November 30 2011 14:49 Serejai wrote:
I'm just going to afk until the day post while you guys have a dick waving contest or whatever it is you're doing. I feel at this point wherebugsgo has brainwashed all of the new players with his mafia agenda so much that it's just going to be a lot of sheeping tonight.
Look forward to the drama when me and probably most other people on his list flip green/blue tomorrow. Hopefully a townie can step up and help sway people towards killing wherebugsgo soon or we're not going to have a chance of winning. I was actually thinkinh you were town before before that vote dude. What would possess you to make that vote other then being mafia? As I said earlier, I kinda just wanted to see a three way tie. Curiosity got the best of me and I wanted to know what would happen if they tied. It didn't even occur to me that mafia might bandwagon on to Palmar, mostly because I thought Palmar was mafia myself and if anything I expected more votes to go on BC because he was rising in votes very quickly. But then all of a sudden everyone switched to Palmar. To be perfectly honest I fucked up and didn't really think that through at all. As a result of Palmar flipping town, I'm questioning all of my previous reads as well. The only ones I'm still confident of are Kenpachi, vaderseven, Lemonwalrus+coag (at least one of these two is mafia), and I really want to say wherebugsgo but I'm starting to think he's town, too. Oh, and supersoft. That guy is for sure mafia. The other guys like redFF, Kurumi, and sandroba I'm starting to think may actually be town because I can't find enough evidence to convince myself they're still scum after my blunder with reading Palmar. Take it as you will though. I'm a bad player so it's not like shooting/lynching me would be a game ender for town anyway.
Well the best thing you can do at this point is give us your thoughts, because there really is no reason for you to be kept alive as town. Vader and lemon should make it in their top interests to post their thoughts on the game before the day ends. If you are mafia, we have nothing to lose assuming we will kill you through whatever means necessary. If you are town, well I'm pretty sure you know the value of your opinions at this point.
Ciry and Kenpachi cannot be town obviously. If they are town I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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