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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 21:42 GMT
#3381
On November 30 2011 06:38 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:33 supersoft wrote:
okay i just catched up via iphone;

redFF, sandroba, wbg and kurumi we need to work together.
i am not sure about BC/Palmar and want to exlpain why.
i am 100% sure that either palmar or bc are scum.
if we dont have enough time to decide this issue today, we got to talk tomorrow.
i am okay with lynching one of them. if you prefer BC lets do that.

another solid lynches are bum, prplhz and erandorr.
i wont commentate on that shitcase these morons built against me.
wbg did that already and i couldnt have done that any better.


That's the majority of my scum list right there. I'm simply making this post so that when one or more of you flip red tonight I'll be able to come back to this.


shut up! your one reason why we're loosing right now!
i hope our hosts didnt give you a powerrole! i'd be a waste! these players i listed there are the only protown players in this game! because of all the people flooding this thread with jokeposts like you do, it's incredibly hard to start a conversation about something!!!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 29 2011 21:42 GMT
#3382
On November 30 2011 06:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:37 Palmar wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:15 Drazerk wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:14 Palmar wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:11 Risen wrote:
And I have to run for now. This analysis shit takes way longer than I thought it would. I'll be back pretty shortly, though so hopefully I can get everything done in time for night 2.


Take your vote off me, you know I'm not scum and there is no reason for you to keep it there.


He doesn't want to be lynched and he knows voting for you will save his own hide.


No, he's reasonable and is attempting to win the game with town. What are you doing?


Did you see his original reasons for voting for you?


Yes, which is why I simply told him he knew I wasn't scum, and he complied and got his vote off me.

I have a town read, a pretty strong town read on Risen. If you're town, I'd recommend you start working with the sandroba/wbg/palmar + a couple of surprisingly clever new players faction.

Computer says mafia
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 29 2011 21:43 GMT
#3383
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 21:45 GMT
#3384
greymist you're scum this game. i feel it. this is not your townstyle!!!!

FUCK this last post is scummy!!! you know exactly that palmar says the truth!!!
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 29 2011 21:45 GMT
#3385
I think you missed how powerful having the mayor alive is for town... 3 votes in the end game helps to control the Lynch as we get closer to half the players left being scum. I am voting you to protect that because I am required to vote twice.

Ya some people don't like my logic about night posting but I will stand by it.

As far as ace dieing and me glad well I would have quit otherwise so duh. I never say or think I'm glad we lost a townie what I say is I'm glad that rule was enforced.

I Def justified my vote on you though the whole part of how powerful the mayor and how close the count is between you two.

You never really touched on the key of my choice today which is the power of a mayor that can't be passed to the sheriff.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 29 2011 21:45 GMT
#3386
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


Eurgh...
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 29 2011 21:46 GMT
#3387
On November 30 2011 06:45 supersoft wrote:
greymist you're scum this game. i feel it. this is not your townstyle!!!!

FUCK this last post is scummy!!! you know exactly that palmar says the truth!!!


You know that I hate WIFOM posts, how is that different than anything i have done as town before?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 21:47 GMT
#3388
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


that's such bullshit and you know it rofl

in what situation is it optimal play for a scum to tie himself so strongly to another scum, then tie himself even more strongly after both take suspicion?

You saw what I do as scum in both MLP and TMMM. If you watched Mini X you'd have even further evidence.

In every game I've ever played as scum I distance myself heavily from my scum buddies. This is not WIFOM, it's because I truly believe that's how to best play the game. I wouldn't tie myself to a scumbuddy such as Palmar because in the case one of us is suspected and lynched the other one gets vigged almost immediately after.

GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 29 2011 21:48 GMT
#3389
On November 30 2011 06:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


that's such bullshit and you know it rofl

in what situation is it optimal play for a scum to tie himself so strongly to another scum, then tie himself even more strongly after both take suspicion?

You saw what I do as scum in both MLP and TMMM. If you watched Mini X you'd have even further evidence.

In every game I've ever played as scum I distance myself heavily from my scum buddies. This is not WIFOM, it's because I truly believe that's how to best play the game. I wouldn't tie myself to a scumbuddy such as Palmar because in the case one of us is suspected and lynched the other one gets vigged almost immediately after.



what im saying is its impossible for us to know if that is what you are doing this game.

Make no mistake, im not saying that you two are scum this game and doing that, i just hate the type of logic that assumes "proper play"
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 29 2011 21:49 GMT
#3390
On November 30 2011 06:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


that's such bullshit and you know it rofl

in what situation is it optimal play for a scum to tie himself so strongly to another scum, then tie himself even more strongly after both take suspicion?

You saw what I do as scum in both MLP and TMMM. If you watched Mini X you'd have even further evidence.

In every game I've ever played as scum I distance myself heavily from my scum buddies. This is not WIFOM, it's because I truly believe that's how to best play the game. I wouldn't tie myself to a scumbuddy such as Palmar because in the case one of us is suspected and lynched the other one gets vigged almost immediately after.



That last line screams scum point of view... I need to reread your filter once I'm home at my comp.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 21:50 GMT
#3391
On November 30 2011 06:48 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


that's such bullshit and you know it rofl

in what situation is it optimal play for a scum to tie himself so strongly to another scum, then tie himself even more strongly after both take suspicion?

You saw what I do as scum in both MLP and TMMM. If you watched Mini X you'd have even further evidence.

In every game I've ever played as scum I distance myself heavily from my scum buddies. This is not WIFOM, it's because I truly believe that's how to best play the game. I wouldn't tie myself to a scumbuddy such as Palmar because in the case one of us is suspected and lynched the other one gets vigged almost immediately after.



what im saying is its impossible for us to know if that is what you are doing this game.

Make no mistake, im not saying that you two are scum this game and doing that, i just hate the type of logic that assumes "proper play"


There is no conceivable situation in which I would tie myself so strongly to a mayoral candidate as scum.

That's scum suicide, because the mayor is almost guaranteed to get lynched at some point in the game.

Your post about it being WIFOM is completely unnecessary because it just seeds doubt and doesn't contribute anything to discussion other than "I hate this type of logic."

vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 29 2011 21:50 GMT
#3392
Oh eh the whole post makes that make sense.


Whatever's can't wait to be off the phone and able to post/read better.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 29 2011 21:50 GMT
#3393
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


Who cares, you know that at some point in the game one of us will flip. I might get policy lynched on day 6 if I don't die today, which actually seems very, very likely.

If one of us flips scum, the other is dead.

Sure, it's wifom, but the simplest solution is almost always true. My alignment is town. WBG could be a very suave scum, but the simple explanation is that he's town. He's making way too much sense to be considered scum at this point.
Computer says mafia
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#3394
On November 30 2011 06:49 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 06:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 30 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, food for thought.

Wherebugsgo is the best scum player in this game (after Ace got himself modkilled), and apparently people consider my scumplay awesome. (Awesome enough for people to blindly oppose my mayor campaign out of fear)

The notion we're scum together is absurd, no scum team would sacrifice two such important members of their team in tying themselves together since day 1.


or maybe you WANTED us to think that!

try a non WIFOM line of reasoning please.


that's such bullshit and you know it rofl

in what situation is it optimal play for a scum to tie himself so strongly to another scum, then tie himself even more strongly after both take suspicion?

You saw what I do as scum in both MLP and TMMM. If you watched Mini X you'd have even further evidence.

In every game I've ever played as scum I distance myself heavily from my scum buddies. This is not WIFOM, it's because I truly believe that's how to best play the game. I wouldn't tie myself to a scumbuddy such as Palmar because in the case one of us is suspected and lynched the other one gets vigged almost immediately after.



That last line screams scum point of view... I need to reread your filter once I'm home at my comp.


of course it's scum point of view, I was using the hypothetical that we're both scum -_-
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 29 2011 21:52 GMT
#3395
Ya I'm slow but figured that out see my post after that one.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 21:55 GMT
#3396
okay, wbg do you think BC is scum and he jailed Ace to gain his trust?
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 29 2011 21:56 GMT
#3397
I'm still not convinced for prplz. Will go through the thread again before going to sleep but if you guys are actually convinced of him being mafia, it wond't hurt if you do a bit more to convince the rest. If I'm too tired of this thread to look for your thoughts about him, do you honestly expect the newbies to do it? Your only hope is for them to jump on the bandwagon.

My views of the others haven't changed, so my second vote is going to deconduo and we definitely have enough time to lynch him.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#3398
##Vote: deconduo
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#3399
yeah, BC had no choice.

the choice to jail Ace makes sense from both perspectives. It's actually almost completely irrelevant to BC being scum or not, although if he uses it as an argument as to why he's not scum then we should be more suspicious of him, since jailing Ace is not an indicator of either alignment.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#3400
On November 30 2011 06:55 supersoft wrote:
okay, wbg do you think BC is scum and he jailed Ace to gain his trust?


Yes.

Ace had already put up a firm stance against a Town Mayor and another very likely townie. The logical play for BC a this point is to allow Ace to run rampant and lynch townies until he comes to his senses, at which point BC pops him.
Computer says mafia
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