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can i /in conditionally that if this starts before zonas game ill /out of that one lol zonas game is taking forever : / /in | ||
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On November 13 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote: lolll or in my case: "wtf I wasn't here that lynch was terrible" I can't remember a day 1 lynch I liked. I don't think such a thing exists. Im liking the sounds of a day 1 lynch wherebugsgo. Do ya like da sound of that :D | ||
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Till i finally gave up and joined this one | ||
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On November 15 2011 08:03 prplhz wrote: Since this is only your second game and your first game wasn't exactly spectacular, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you the following: Are you fucking kidding me? Hm funny thing is that this is my first game so you obviously have the wrong person. And a no lynch would not be good from what i hear so why not? | ||
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As i am new tho this how would you suggest we start a lynch. | ||
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On November 16 2011 03:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Wow, this is going really slow. Here's something to get people talking: If you could pick one player (Not yourself) to make mayor (decides day 1 lynch + a couple night's worth of protection), who would it be and why? I would personally pick MZ. He's level headed, and a decent scum-hunter, so I don't think he'd do anything crazy with a day 1 lynch, and the protection would come in handy with letting him live until later when he could scum-hunt more effectively. Back to you guys. Honestly I do have to agree that the only Mr.Wiggles post seems very off topic. He says its going slowly and then decides to start a discussion that is pretty irrelevant. Did you have any point in this pick a mayor thing, and if so what? I also am rather dismayed that WBG hasn't posted yet. On November 15 2011 10:49 hiro protagonist wrote: Im not trolling Also this in regards to lynching wbg On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote: I know you where trolling  Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot! TO this is quite worrying. Although i do see the point of this post not completely irrelevant just establishing some guidelines which maybe obvious to some but always good to have a reminder imo. AND I STILL WANT WBG TO POST especially seeing as he was the first topic of discussion | ||
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On November 16 2011 10:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote: jaybrundage: Right now, he's being a sheep. That's either due to the fact that he's new, or because he's trying to blend in. He got called out early, and after that he's just sort of been going along with majority opinion. Case in point: | ||
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Well as i see it we have to good votes for today hiro and Wiggles. Everyone seemed to agree that hiro was acting very scummy. And that his votes had alot of scum tells honestly im not sure if i should recap and quote and stuff that he has said or if that would just be repeating what has been already On November 16 2011 07:02 hiro protagonist wrote: No shit mafia want to look like town without actually trying to help. They also want a bad atmosphere to hide in. By saying my post is worthless, your saying that its cool to spam, argue, and tunnel, which mafia love. You are pushing pro mafia ideas. So my FoS still stands. Kinda doesnt make sense he gets attacked by meapak and then says your pushing mafia ideas while my read on meapak was that he was doing a good job trying to find mafia tells. and push leads. On November 16 2011 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote: I want to lynch Meapak. I would love to see more/any posts from Sandroba, Palmar, Wiggles, and WBG but there on my radar too. If you were not voting for me, who would you like to lynch? I guess people said this was a big tell i guess it shows lack of commitment but maybe i dont see as much because im new AS EVERYONE HAS POINTED OUT jeesh On November 16 2011 10:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote: jaybrundage: Right now, he's being a sheep. That's either due to the fact that he's new, or because he's trying to blend in. He got called out early, and after that he's just sort of been going along with majority opinion. Case in point: I though it would be important to voice my opinion while i did agree with others everything i said was what i though as well lets be honest your first post was fluff i agreed on that because it was true it was baseless and useless. And as for wanting WBG to post ofc i voted for him i was hoping to elicit some response On November 16 2011 19:10 sandroba wrote: I don't like the hiro lynch. I've read his posts and while his logic path is not stellar, his posts seem genuine and doesn't seem like he is trying to hide. I see him arguing controversial issues and not thinking carefully before he posts. Not mafia imo. People that don't seem genuine to me as of now are Mr.Wiggles (his "atempt" at catching scum was the most optimistic plan ever known to man) and jaydude (seemed, but has posted very little, only one liners without any thought behind and after people's reaction to his posts has gone missing -> good match for inexperienced scum, but a poor choice for a lynch today since I know nothing about his play). I'm not quite sold on any lynch in particular yet, but I'm against lynching hiro. I find it interesting that you got a scum read on you not sure what you mean about "intusiastic about mafia" partly because its not a word :p and but even enthusiastic about mafia does make much sense to me. Can you extrapolate? I have tried to post with a bit more content my last one way back and this one. And the reason i think Mr.Wiggles could be mafia is his first useless post and after he voted for Meapak who i think i got a good town read from. And his low post count shows hes not contributing much although we have to try to factor RL ofc On November 17 2011 00:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Meapak_Ziphh on the other hand, has shown that he's definitely scummy. He was trying to play the hyper-aggressive townie, but he hasn't played his role quite well enough. Notice that he makes aggressive moves towards multiple players in a short period of time, before settling on hiro. This is enough to establish himself as "scumhunting", but then he never follows up. There's barely any additional pressure on hiro after his vote, he doesn't try to convince anyone else in the town to vote for hiro, he doesn't respond to what I said about him, and he basically disappears from the thread. This is incredibly scummy, and contrary to everything a townie should be doing after early aggression. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh At this point i would be fine voting for Mr.Wiggles or Hiro Although im confused why people stopped voting for Hiro from what i got about people talking about his other games is he just bad at town (lol) I honestly would not be able to tell who is more mafia like. But i want to hear more about why Sandroba would not to vote hiro you said hes geniune and just not thinking his posts thru but the counter FOS on meapak that seemed rather off imo. | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Sure thing. I'll leave out the hiro stuff though, because that's apparent. + Show Spoiler + On November 15 2011 10:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Guys guys guys. Did I really just read palmar call for a lynch of a player who hasn't posted in the thread? And even worse, people are listening to him? -_- Are we stll pregame trolling? Call out Palmar On November 16 2011 04:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I guess this will be one of Palmar's off games then. Anyway, I'd feel good about lynching Wiggles right now. While it's true that the game has been slow there's still stuff to talk about. Wiggles decided to ignore the whole Palmar thing and told everyone to sit back and talk about completely irelevant things for no appparent purpose. Also I'd feel grand lynching hiro. This post is so unbelievable worthless that my mind has a hard time comprehending it. This is like a textbook example of contributing without contributing and fluff posting. The part in red had me laughing it was so hypocritical. Call out Palmar again. Threaten me with a lynch, and act aggressively towards Hiro some more. On November 16 2011 05:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also WBG, it's time to show your ugly mug in here. Call out WBG. On November 16 2011 06:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: ...lol What you said had no value. I'll just let you know that. Scum like to say things that have no content because it doesn't force them to defend themselves. I'll let you know that as well. Calling you out on bullshit isn't scummy. Nice FoS bro, the heat getting to you already? @Mr. Wiggles and Palmar: I know you both are active on TL right now, get in here and post. Call out me and Palmar again. Part of what to look at is not just that you're calling people out, but how you're doing it. It's not just saying that someone's inactive or that you think they're scummy, but taking a threatening tone towards them that makes it aggressive. I'm guessing this is what you're referring to when you say "Hiro's case" against you: Hiro calls you out here for what he perceives as promoting " pointless tunneling and reckless arguing and spam, resulting in a mislynch and bad reads", and that's basically the thesis of his argument against you. So, thanks for trying to misrepresent my argument which doesn't resemble what Hiro said at all; it just helps cement my read on you. I never said that you were scummy for acting aggressively like Hiro did, I said that you're scummy for how you acted after you were aggressive. Instead of continuing to aggressively pursue a lynch in the same way that you were calling out other players, you completely disappeared. This is scum calling out a bunch of people and making an early vote to look like he's contributing before dropping into the background. I would hardly calling for activity calling some one out. Its funny that you say your self say[QUOTE]On November 16 2011 10:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote: The "let's lynch random player X" train wasn't exactly full of content when it was completely off-hand and based on nothing. and when meapak was talkign to palmar about lynching WBG about how he though it was trolling you call that calling out or aggressive i think meapak saw a lead on hiro and pursued it | ||
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so ##Unvote ##Vote Mr.Wiggles | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:13 sandroba wrote: Fuck man, there is not much argument against lynching wiggles. No one is really pushing a second candidate (MZ is pushing hiro, but not too strongly, I would expect him to put a lot more effort into it if he was mafia with wiggles). Jaybrundage is looking real scummy to me and voting wiggles too. =/ Plz explain | ||
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While i would love to have some concrete reasons about why people think im the mafia like i asked for here On November 16 2011 06:42 hiro protagonist wrote: Heres the thing Meapak, I was leading by example because I dont think that post is worthless. It would be worthless if that was my only post, or if it was made 2/3 into day 1, but thats not the case. perhaps we should agree to disagree ^_^ Heres my beef thou. You say that everyone is all ready against pointless argument and tunneling, but it happens in lots of games. I think it needs to be said because lots of towns have self imploded on day 1 with pointless tunneling and reckless arguing and spam, resulting in a mislynch and bad reads. I want to avoid it now, so I said something preemptive. To call me out and say Im scum because of that, As well as insinuate that what I said has no value, Is not townie thinking. Its scummy. FoS on Meapak. Here we see hiro claiming Fos on Meapak. And then later On November 17 2011 00:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Meapak_Ziphh on the other hand, has shown that he's definitely scummy. He was trying to play the hyper-aggressive townie, but he hasn't played his role quite well enough. Notice that he makes aggressive moves towards multiple players in a short period of time, before settling on hiro. This is enough to establish himself as "scumhunting", but then he never follows up. There's barely any additional pressure on hiro after his vote, he doesn't try to convince anyone else in the town to vote for hiro, he doesn't respond to what I said about him, and he basically disappears from the thread. This is incredibly scummy, and contrary to everything a townie should be doing after early aggression. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh Mr.Wiggles does the same thing it seems pretty obvious to me that they were trying to both go for the same target. However after it didnt work out Hiro backed out and bussed Mr.Wiggles to save face. With both me and Sandroba voting very late in the game it would have been irrelevant if hiro voted for Mr.Wiggles or not as we had a above the majority anyway. I was waiting to see if we were voting for Hiro or Mr.Wiggles and Sandroba ended up voting very late in the game. So i think this paints Meapak_Ziphh as a townie and Errandor as well as Mr.Wiggles also went after him On November 17 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:"Wiggles is suspicious of me? Better keep my vote on him then. Also, I think Palmar is acting like scum but also like not scum and here's a paragraph that says nothing. I'm also gonna AFK, ciao.". Everything he's saying so far is super non-committal and tells us nothing. Even notice how he's voting for me, but looking through the filter, I don't see once where he actually calls me scum. All I see is: "I would be okay with lynching Wiggles." "I think Wiggles is the best lynch right now." "Okay I read Wiggles last post and am actually still completely fine with lynching him." I think that's the most non-committal posting I've ever seen. He doesn't call me scum and he doesn't say I'm scummy, just that he's "okay" and "fine" with lynching me. He's floating along with what other people have said without committing strongly to his position. ##FoS: Erandorr Also Mr.Wiggles called out Palmar as scum. But he's no longer with us Rest in Peace. Also keep in mind that Mr.Wiggles while not straight up calling me scum did On November 17 2011 00:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote: jaybrundage: Right now, he's being a sheep. That's either due to the fact that he's new, or because he's trying to blend in. He got called out early, and after that he's just sort of been going along with majority opinion. Case in point: He would only try to call me out as trying to "blend in" if he knows im town and wants to make me look scummy. Keep in mind heres a main point not once did Mr.Wiggles call Hiro Scummy, However this is what i think is the twist neither did he ever call out Sandroba. Something to think about. | ||
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On November 16 2011 06:30 jaybrundage wrote: Honestly I do have to agree that the only Mr.Wiggles post seems very off topic. He says its going slowly and then decides to start a discussion that is pretty irrelevant. Did you have any point in this pick a mayor thing, and if so what? | ||
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On November 18 2011 15:55 sandroba wrote: I don't feel like mafia is ever going to get rid of jay for us, I feel unloved : ( | ||
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1. 2. 3.Wherebugsgo 4.Meapak_Ziphh 5.Erandorr 6.prplhz 7.hiro protagonist 8.jaybrundage 9.Sandroba 1 of 2 MAFIA remaining: 6 of 7 TOWN remaining: While im obviously town i left it out because some people are suspicious of me. hm im still not sure if Hiro is town or not maybe hes just bad in pressure  I still find it wierd that he FOSed Meapak as well as WigglesThat leaves me WBG and Sandroba I have to go look over there posts a bit more but considering WBG didnt vote for Mr.Wiggles and Sandroba's Vote was after i waited for him he took forever On November 17 2011 09:13 sandroba wrote: Fuck man, there is not much argument against lynching wiggles. No one is really pushing a second candidate (MZ is pushing hiro, but not too strongly, I would expect him to put a lot more effort into it if he was mafia with wiggles). Jaybrundage is looking real scummy to me and voting wiggles too. =/ He though i already voted Wiggles if i had it would of been majority however i was holding my vote plz dont ask me why its dumb (sigh ok i wanted to be the decided vote to feel like a badass and shit yes dumb i know) On November 17 2011 09:19 sandroba wrote: Oh nevermind jay didn't vote wiggles, he said he would be fine voting him. Anyway I'm having a hard time tieing wiggles toghether with any other player. And this could be seen as a soft defense as Wiggles Keep in Mind i was waiting on Sandrobas vote On November 17 2011 09:02 jaybrundage wrote: And we need sandrobas vote asap I have to go over WBG posts a bit more before i comment about him | ||
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I see how you guys think Sandroba is town. Im curious btw can the mafia still talk to each other after one is dead about the game specifically? Well as i see it WBG and Hiro are the best candidates for mafia. Its wierd i wanted to go for Hiro but after Sandrobas read lots of people backed off. The assumption that mafia wouldnt bus day one is one we cant completely rely on. If Hiro was under suspicion and then Mr.Wiggles Hiro has to act quick to obtain town cred. And still the fact that Mr.Wiggles never once called out Hiro as scum. He did just about call out everyone else tho. Hiro seems like the next logic go for mafia. The only reason i have been so vocal is because i am town and all i got are my voice and my vote And i think the other reason people are defending me is because the DT prolly checked me and i showed up green. | ||
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On November 19 2011 16:37 prplhz wrote: What did you find when rereading wherebugsgo's posts? What made you vote for him? Be honest dude. Oh and the reason i made a case against against Sandroba and then voted for WBG is because i trust your guys judgement Better then my own. Im obviously new at this so well i made a case against Sandroba. I can hear your guys feed back and change my judgement accordingly. 1. 2. 3.Wherebugsgo 4.Meapak_Ziphh 5.Erandorr 6.prplhz 7.hiro protagonist 8.jaybrundage 9.Sandroba (I guess ill trust you guys) I still think MZ is town even tho he voted for me : ( IDK i guess another reason i didn't think Sandroba was town was because he was always gunning for me. I think we should go for Hiro today. | ||
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On November 19 2011 16:37 prplhz wrote: @jaybrundage What did you expect and why? What do you mean "throw this game too", what other game did he throw? What other games did you read? I heard he single handily lost a game for his team XVI or something like that. What did you find when rereading wherebugsgo's posts? What made you vote for him? Be honest dude. I did answer this in my last post i trust the people who i think are towns judgement And the reason I voted for him was because I think that you and MZ are town | ||
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1. 2. 3.Wherebugsgo 4.Meapak_Ziphh Ok so MZ went really strong after Hiro while we didnt find out if hes mafia or not had it been a mislynch it would of looked terrible on him. As he pretty went balls to the wall trying to lynch him. 5.Erandorr Erandorr was one of the first votes on Mr.Wiggles and has seemed like he is always posting pro town imo Erandorr would not be defending me as town because if he was mafia he would be pushing a mislynch 6.prplhz Again was one of the first votes on Mr.Wiggles and always seems like he is very protown putting in good posts active also defending me so there is not mislynch 7.hiro protagonist 8.jaybrundage 9.Sandroba (I guess ill trust you guys) and i do see what you said about changing the vote from hiro to Mr.Wiggles and because everyone else has seen you as town so gotta trust the vets judgment :p It would only be in the mafias advantage to have a easy mislynch thats also why i was suspicious of you and am also suspicious of WBG. Suprising Hiro hasnt said anything about it. Hiro what do you think of lynching me? | ||
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On November 20 2011 02:28 sandroba wrote: This interaction with mr.wiggles seems very legit. This is actually a really good point. And considering Erandors post about Hiro Im going to change my vote to Hiro ##Unvote ##Vote hiro protagonist I think no lynch would be viable if we were guaranteed to have a cop but we dont know : / I would like to hear hiros point of view | ||
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On November 20 2011 03:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Sandroba I don't think no lynching is a good idea. Relying on blues just isn't something I want to do. We don't know for sure if we have any of those roles and even if we do they might get sniped and then that ruins the plan. Other things. Re hiro protagonist: I thought it was already established that he wasn't the most suspicious because he was the fourth vote on wiggles. I dropped my case against him when several people pointed that out. Re jaybrundage: After reading the thread this morning I'm starting to think you're being coached. You make these absolutely TERRIBLE posts but then you come back with one or two decent ones. I wonder if anyone else has this feeling? I'm going to have spotty activity today, I'll do my best to keep up on my itouch. Maybe im getting better :D yay. MZ the assumption that scum wouldnt bus day one is a mind set thats hurting us. They had a choice either Hiro was going to get lynched. Mr.Wiggles and Hiro tried to get a case against you but it failed. So the only chance Hiro had was to bus Mr.Wiggles. Consider this If Hiro hadnt voted for Mr.Wiggles He would be automatically the next logical target. He didnt have much choice thank you for the compliment :D | ||
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Heres a question after i flip green who's the next target. If i get mislynched i at least would like for us to obtain information from it. Ugh if i do get killed im not looking forward to my death lol the last one was nasty. | ||
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It seems like im the one to go atm Rofl at Hiro putting a case on Sandroba Kinda ironic | ||
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On November 20 2011 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote: We lynch Jay, and if he flips town we brush that off and reevaluate again Eh so nothing can be learned from my death? And you also agreeing with me about scum bussing all of a sudden. | ||
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On November 20 2011 08:14 hiro protagonist wrote: yeah, your reads are right. my post saying "would anyone like to lynch someone other than me/wiggles" looks bad, but I was tying to spur some discussion, albeit badly. Wiggles makes a few post subtly referencing me. As well as not bringing me up when I was the major lynch target. I know Im town, so I think He was looking buddy up to me in case he dies, to make me look bad. Thats a really weak case. It doesnt even make much sense. He didnt mention you as a possible lynch because he wanted to buddy up with you because if he dies it makes you look kinda bad. How about this he didnt mention you because your his mafia partner and after a bandwagon formed you had to join it or you would look even worse. If Hiro had not voted for Mr.Wiggles he would have been so obvious as mafia. | ||
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Hiro and WBG should be next on the list gl :D | ||
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