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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#581
Yes I am pretty much aware of that sandroba, what do you want me to do? Convince wherebugsgo to vote for deconduo?

wherebugsgo, how would you like switching to deconduo instead of sandroba?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 18:44 GMT
#582
How about you convince wherebugsgo to vote for deconduo, I'll switch.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 25 2011 19:36 GMT
#583
So you'd rather lynch me and lose the game then lynch decon or no lynch.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 19:54 GMT
#584
I have to think about this.

You're both scummy for almost opposite reasons. (ofc not decon particularly, it's all what Meapak did lol)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 20:03 GMT
#585
Yes.

I mean .. what kind of question is that?

I'd rather lynch wherebugsgo than lynch anybody else. If neither sandroba nor deconduo thinks that wherebugsgo is scum, then there's a good chance that he's town. If wherebugsgo is town then he's probably better at judging this situation than I am. That's why, if I can't lynch wherebugsgo, I'm going to follow him. It is up to sandroba and deconduo if they want to lynch the other dude then you have to reason with wherebugsgo. You must realize that if he is town, then he's a lot easier to reason with than I am, he is better at playing town than I am. If somebody wants a no lynch we can do that but you need to have something to add tomorrow 'cause other than that you're just going to lose a townie in exchange for WIFOM, or you'll have a repeat of today and I see no reason for that unless you have something to actually add. If you tell me you need more time I will no lynch, if not then I will proceed with voting with wherebugsgo.

You've been lazy all game and you've lynched two townies. I don't see why you couldn't be scum even though I think it would be weird how you acted on day1 and how you've acted today. I still think that wherbugsgo is the last scum but I gotta listen to sandroba and deconduo, one of them is town right? Also, I'm sick and tired of pushing wherebugsgo, I've been doing it for like a week and there's only ever been one single other vote on him, for like a couple of hours.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 20:06 GMT
#586
Since sarcasm doesn't really work over the internet, no I would not like to lose the game. I guess we can no lynch if any of sandroba or deconduo wants but of course the guy who is getting lynched wants to no lynch. I guess I'll have to say that if wherebugsgo thinks he knows who the last scum is then we will lynch that guy, if sandroba and deconduo agrees to vote wherebugsgo then we'll lynch that guy.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 25 2011 20:49 GMT
#587
I don't want to no lynch. I want to lynch decon who is the last scum. Filter him and you see him posting cases all game long and then disregarding it to lynch whoever has more votes (day 2 and 3). The sole exception to this rule is when wiggles was up for lynch where he said "Wiggles is scummy, but Hiro is scummier."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 20:51 GMT
#588
prpl can you please reread the thread and make an argument for one of sandro or decon?

Obviously asking sandro or decon will get them to simply attack each other. I need your input on this.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 20:51 GMT
#589
Then why doesn't wherebugsgo want to lynch him?

Can anybody answer this question?!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 20:52 GMT
#590
I already said I think Meapak_Ziphh/deconduo is scummier than sandroba but not by so much I'd want to put all my eggs in that bag. If you agree that we should lynch him then lets go ahead.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 20:56 GMT
#591
omg. I keep flip flopping today, it's like almost literally 50/50 to me. What sucks is that there are no outside opinions because everyone is dead and you have done nothing but focus me.

If we ask one of decon/sandro they just attack the other and there's no real progress. If I ask you, you just say "pick one."

Right now my brain says sandro is not scum anymore. 12 hours ago it was saying sandro IS scum. In 3 hours will it think the same?

god damn.

If you prefer Meapak/decon, explain.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 25 2011 21:04 GMT
#592
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 21:17 GMT
#593
I think if sandroba had been scum he wouldn't have doubted your claim. Your claim was very breadcrumbed and I had already made a post saying that I thought that sandroba was very town so he would have no reason to not just say that you and I are confirmed town and that we need to lynch Meapak_Ziphh. I think sandroba would have tried to close the game.

I also don't think he is scum because he just shut down the option of him voting hiro protagonist on day1. He just said "I don't feel that his posts are genuine" and that is characteristic lazy sandroba, and he couldn't really flip flop on it. At that point there were a lot of people who were starting to take a good look at Mr. Wiggles and I don't think scum sandroba would have tried to shut down hiro protagonist so hard if he was scum, he would have left the door open.

I think that him lynching hiro protagonist and jaybrundage was shit. This speaks against him but it's classic lazy sandroba again. He already said day1 that he has problems with bad/scum distinction but I don't know how true that is since I only have his word for it.

Meapak_Ziphh has not been very impressive. Nothing speaks in his favor except how I don't think that scum would bus on day1, and if they did they would probably do it harder. When Mr. Wiggles started his case on Meapak_Ziphh the lynch would very likely be between the two, why didn't Meapak_Ziphh vote Mr. Wiggles for town credit then? Instead he stayed on hiro protagonist. Maybe they were afraid that the distancing would be too obvious if Meapak_Ziphh bussed on an OMGUS of sort, maybe Meapak_Ziphh had attacked hiro protagonist too hard to think that he could switch, but a lot of people had switched from hiro protagonist on hardly any reasonable other than "dun thnk hes scum" why shouldn't he be able to do that too?

Conclusion: Meapak_Ziphh is more scummy than sandroba.

As for words like "genuine" and "fabricated" and stuff like that, I have no idea. Mr. Wiggles' stuff looked fake, but the reads I'm getting from sandroba and Meapak_Ziphh are too weak that I'm gonna trust them. If you held a gun to my head I'd say that sandroba looked more fake but that's nothing to go on at all.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 21:19 GMT
#594
What do you make of sandro trying to take credit for being the first to point out Wiggles' scumminess day 1?

I take it you think that Meapak was distancing?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 21:33 GMT
#595
I say that Meapak_Ziphh wasn't distancing, but Mr. Wiggles was. I think this is a bit weird, since there was no reason for Meapak_Ziphh not to jump on Mr. Wiggles at that point and claim some town credit for the lynch of a red. He could have been the 4th vote on Mr. Wiggles but instead he ended up on hiro protagonist. Why would he do that?

Why would Mr. Wiggles, who had already been called out for being fake and fabricated, try to make a case on Meapak_Ziphh? He could have doomed his scumbuddy if he had slipped up somehow.

I'm the wrong person to ask about the credit thing, because I have a hard time caring about stuff like that. I believe sandroba is telling the truth from his perspective, he probably thinks he was the first one to point out. If he wasn't, then he made a mistake, a mistake that might just as well have been a townie mistake as it could have been a scum mistake. This is a 20 page game, not some 200 page monster. He will be called out when he says stuff like that, to me it's a null tell really. I ,too, actually thought at some point during this game that I was the first to call Mr. Wiggles out but then I reread the thread and I think you were the first one to call him out. It seems like lazy sandroba to me, and I don't think it says very much about his alignment.

I don't think there is any denying that sandroba had a big role in Mr. Wiggles demise on day1, but that is mainly due to his opposition to the hiro protagonist lynch and his support of the Mr. Wiggles lynch, not so much his vote even though it obviously did something too.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 21:39 GMT
#596
alright. I think everything you've said makes sense; thanks for the clarity. I agree with you. I leaned toward Meapak being scum at the beginning of the day when sandro didn't CC me. Then I was confused for a bit since Meapak didn't either, but I realized that would still make sense from his perspective because he didn't know whether you were green or blue. (although he could've probably still jailor CCed me)

I guess he didn't come up with it or something, who knows. Everything else makes more sense now from the perspective that Meapak was scum than sandro. Sandro hammered wiggles, which you might think was a bus, but he was influential in getting Wiggles on the lynch candidacy for day 1, so that pretty much rules out a bus. Meapak all game has been soft FoSing me despite having the exact same reads as me, and that has been making me feel strange. It makes some sense but at the same time it's almost like he was setting me up for the fall this entire time.

Now of course he couldn't do that because I claimed jailor, so he switched off me into the only thing left that makes sense, attacking sandro. Okay. I'm good with that.

Let's lynch decon and win this game.

##unvote
##vote deconduo.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 21:45 GMT
#597
wherebugsgo changed his vote.

##Unvote
##Vote deconduo
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#598
I don't think I'm going to change my mind at this point, anything further will just make my head explode.

Now we just wait till the flip.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 25 2011 21:57 GMT
#599
I am very uncomfortable with you listening to me. We all know that you're jailer now, you can start being KICKASS again, you can't hide behind your "Oh I'm trying to not attract any scum attention because then maybe they'll kill me and I'm blue!" anymore. I'm not really the best townie around and I can mention 5 things I missed on those points I just made, and it would surprise me if wherebugsgo couldn't mention 500 things more.

If deconduo and sandroba find out that they'd rather lynch wherebugsgo I'm still all for that, lol.

Also, this has been a very fun game. It's really hard to tie scum to somebody else when he dies night1. I think we wasted 2 lynches just blindly following sandroba on his crusade against newer players. These things have left us in a pretty hard situation here at mylo.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#600
On November 26 2011 06:57 prplhz wrote:
I am very uncomfortable with you listening to me. We all know that you're jailer now, you can start being KICKASS again, you can't hide behind your "Oh I'm trying to not attract any scum attention because then maybe they'll kill me and I'm blue!" anymore. I'm not really the best townie around and I can mention 5 things I missed on those points I just made, and it would surprise me if wherebugsgo couldn't mention 500 things more.

If deconduo and sandroba find out that they'd rather lynch wherebugsgo I'm still all for that, lol.

Also, this has been a very fun game. It's really hard to tie scum to somebody else when he dies night1. I think we wasted 2 lynches just blindly following sandroba on his crusade against newer players. These things have left us in a pretty hard situation here at mylo.


I don;t have much of a choice it seems if I can't convince you Sandro is scum.

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