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On November 20 2011 08:14 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
We lynch Jay, and if he flips town we brush that off and reevaluate again Eh so nothing can be learned from my death? And you also agreeing with me about scum bussing all of a sudden.
Sure something can be learned from your death.
If you're scum, we win.
If you're town, like I said, we reevaluate again and move on. If you're town and you die, like I said, that probably means we need to heavily reconsider that scum bussed on day 1, because to me it is unlikely that Meapak is scum.
I will reread again since Erandorr has posted something (I just kinda skimmed it, sorry) about Meapak and I want to see for myself again if there's anything that I missed.
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On November 18 2011 10:44 Palmar wrote:
just ignore the things ive a said during the night.
oh found what prpl was talking about.
I thought this was in reference to what he said about jay being cute. But, if you think it was game-relevant...then...okay. lol.
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I'll be rereading the thread again and will post my thoughts in the morning when I'm awake. Feel free to discuss, Europeans.
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Prpl you don't make any sense.
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I don't have much time ATM, I'm on my phone. Today I'd like to hear from hiro, meapak, and sandro. I'm torn between meapak and hiro; you can make a case for either player for either alignment. Hiro vote Wiggles, so that makes him less likely to be scum to me. Meapak's behavior is more town-aligned, but he didn't make a vote on Wiggles. They're like opposites.
Sandro I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Prpl I'd strongly suggest that you build a case, since I really can't say anything other than "I'm not scum" at this point. I've already addressed your earlier points and defending myself will be a further waste of time today. I'll answer any questions you have, but if you are town (which think you are) then you should weigh in on Meapak/hiro.
If you don't want to do this, then I really wonder if I've got the wrong read and you're not actually town.
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Actually that's dumb, I could've just said I want to hear from everyone.
I'm tired :/
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On November 21 2011 18:38 prplhz wrote:
@Meapak_Ziphh
You help me lynch wherebugsgo today, I'll help you lynch sandroba tomorrow. Deal?
Also, if there is a cop somewhere he kinda needs to claim today, but yea I agree with sandroba that that is very unlikely.
yo this isn't Pokemon card trading, it's mafia. Since I'm town and I'm leaning town on sandro that little trade of yours would, I bet, lose us the game.
Hiro is sliding by with no activity. He's done absolutely nothing, never sticks his neck out, never contributes to discussion. IIRC his vote yesterday was useless, it was made after the hammer. He's most suspicious to me because of those reasons. Erandorr also pointed out very good reasons why hiro was scum. So I disagree with you, Meapak, on why Erandorr died. It's certainly possible Erandorr died because hiro is scum.
As of now I'm pretty unsure too but I really don't have anything better.
##vote hiro protagonist
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also happy birthday Radfield, you scum.
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yo, where the hell is everyone?
are we going to let scum just slide by today? Wtf??!
*pokes thread with a stick*
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The frustration that shall appear in the following image is reflected by my opinion of this game:
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+ Show Spoiler +fwiw, I'm going to cancel at 30 minutes
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Meapak what do you think of prpl?
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prpl you just keep saying I'm scummy and your case is terrible. You're wasting our time right now.
On November 22 2011 10:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
Meapak what do you think of prpl? I'm leaning town on him. He was the 3(?) person to vote for Wiggles. Had he not voted for Wiggles the lynch might have stalled out. He could have voted for Hiro with you and I and suddenly it's Hiro who's close to the majority. Look here's the thing WBG. I am really having a hard time thinking you're scum. You've acted fairly protown in my eyes especially when compared to someone like hiro. Now we could lynch you and then lynch me (or the other way around) but I just have a terrible feeling about that. If you don't flip scum then we lose (I'm town, I'll be the next mislynch if we decide to lynch you and I). I don't think you'll flip scum. This then means that scum voted Wiggles and it's much more likely to be hiro than prp imo. I'd love to hear what sandroba thinks.
I actually agree with you, since I think you're town as well. Lynching you and me in any order will lose us the game.
Let's kill hiro, and then afterward we'll need to reevaluate. I'm not convinced on the sandro case as of yet but atm anything is a possibility. prpl looks town and he's normally weird, but the things he is saying aren't making any sense at all.
Palmar was right in that scum would probably have bussed day 1.
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Actually prpl that still doesn't make sense. Scum not bussing still leaves meapak. Why are you so dead set on focusing on me? Why is it that you do nothing but tunnel me when you can use the same reasoning for another player in the game?
If your argument is that Wiggles mentioned Meapak, then I don't think you understand the difference between bussing and distancing.
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I'll comment in full once I'm out of class. I'm reading now on my phone while eating breakfast lol (it's 7:45 here)
I should hopefully have adequate time to respond in about 5-6 hours.
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fuck it, I keep writing things and realizing sandro has already said them. hiro has to be scum at this point, 0 defense and it's like 1 hour to lynch.
I agree with everything sandro has said. In the amazingly remote chance that hiro is town, we can reevaluate later, with hiro gone it'd be only 4 left. Nothing to do but wait.
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prpl can you explain the point of that post?
You said all that stuff about sandro only to call him town at the end rofl
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I was gonna post this right before deadline but I was in a LoL match.
I'm the jailor.
I protted Erandorr night 1 and then prpl night 2. This makes prpl 95% town (the only chance he's not is that I was roleblocked by him). Last night I chose to prot sandro.
This either means sandro is the scum, or sandro was hit by Meapak.
I don't believe I was roleblocked when I checked prpl because he called me out on my soft blue claim in my first post (though I never asked him how he knew because I was afraid other people would catch onto me being blue if I mentioned it) and since he caught it I'm sure he would have killed me instead if he was scum.
So, yeah, prpl pretty much has to be town, it's sandro or meapak. I'll come back with more thoughts later.
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On November 24 2011 10:59 prplhz wrote:On Meapak_ZiphhRight so before Mr. Wiggles died he made this post about some Palmar, me, and more importantly, Meapak_Ziphh. I am saying "scum does not want scum to die on day, so Mr. Wiggles wouldn't push for another scum when he's on the chopping block, because this would mean that scum would die". People are saying "lol haven't u herd about distancing?". I understand the concept but this is not what Mr. Wiggles was doing, he was actually trying to get Meapak_Ziphh. If you don't trust me, then trust Palmar who said it looked like a genuine push in the next post. Now you can say "but this is still all just distancing." but if they had already decided that the lynch was going to be between them, that one of them would have to die, then why the hell didn't Meapak_Ziphh just move his vote over to Mr. Wiggles? If, at this point in the game, they had already decided to distance themselves from each other then why the hell didn't Meapak_Ziphh distance himself from Mr. Wiggles? Meapak_Ziphh's play this game hasn't been totally impressive, but it is very hard to do something impressive in a game this small. He voted hiro protagonist because hiro protagonist was way scummier. I totally agree with him on this actually, the amount of scummyness that hiro protagonist had displayed at this point was way bigger than what Mr. Wiggles had done, but in the light of what you should expect from those players Mr. Wiggles was still the scummier. I don't expect Meapak_Ziphh to know this I don't think he's ever thought very hard about hiro protagonist before. He also very subtly and offhandedly points out very important points throughout the game, but not for the purpose of bringing them up later as a defense or anything. I think this is very townie of him. I had more but ... On wherebugsgoOh shit it's almost deadline. Well he's scum and I have some points but I can't post them lol. I'll post if I'm still alive in 5 mins.
Not only is wherebugsgo the last scum, he's also the role blocker. If there is a role cop and he didn't claim then the guy is a moron, and nobody here is a moron so we can rule that out. This makes this a 2of3 setup. If there is a jailer out there and he didn't claim yet, that's is slightly more understandable, but it is still useless and I think it's very unlikely. This makes this a 2of2 setup. I'd say that there is a 98% chance that town has a doc left and no other blues. wherebugsgo probably knew this way before I even said anything. I think he has a good chance of pulling off a shot tonight though it all comes down to WIFOM. I think he's been enjoying this game so far, keeping me alive knowing that he's scum but not being able to do anything about it like a modern day Cassandra. If I'm not alive tomorrow, which is very likely as nobody would protect me but WIFOM, please please don't make the lynch between you two Meapak_Ziphh and sandroba. Lynch wherebugsgo.
The last scum is the roleblocker, what's your point?
Either I'm the only blue (the jailkeeper) or there's a doctor/cop with me.
In either case, the last scum is between Meapak and Sandro. I really don't know why you still think I'm scum. You don't have a case, and you just keep reiterating that you think I'm scum without actually saying why. You say that scum wouldn't bus, but you don't address the fact that I was one of the first (if not the first? I don't remember) to call out wiggles on his shitty first post. I was fine with hiro/wiggles day 1, I just chose to vote the wrong person that day. I was wrong, and that doesn't mean I am scum. It just means I was wrong.
Then, I believe you were the only one who picked up on the blue claim that I seeded in my posts. Were you not? I recall you saying something about it. I ignored it because I didn't want to draw attention to myself. I knew from the start that I would only be of use if I lived to the end. Unfortunately, I chose Erandorr over Palmar (the choice was a close one) for night 1 and Palmar ended up dying. Oh well.
For the townie between Meapak/sandro:
WBG's Traveling Circus
Awesome Guide to Catching Scum!
I highlighted my own name blue in the first post I made. Literally right at the top.
On November 17 2011 17:32 wherebugsgo wrote:also chaoser isn't a doctor, he's secretly a brutal serial killer! + Show Spoiler +
I said he isn't a doctor, and then in the spoiler said "jk jk jk". This is a breadcrumb. JK=jailkeeper.
On November 17 2011 17:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
At any rate I think this game is locked in. We shouldn't be cocky though, it certainly is still possible we can lose.
Locked in=another jailkeeper breadcrumb.
On November 18 2011 15:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Jailkeeper roleblocks too -_- also Show nested quote +Q: Do people get notified if they are roleblocked?
A: No one gets notified, If the cop gets roleblocked his investigations will return no results.
So we should treat any roleblock claims as liars unless they claim cop as well.
I shot down Meapak's idea of people calling roleblocks almost instantly after he posted it. Why? Because I'm a jailkeeper.
Then note I mentioned Erandorr several times early that day, asking for his thoughts, mentioning how other than him nothing was happening.
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If I were scum how the fuck would I know there is no jailkeeper? Are you stupid?
No blues have flipped yet, from scum perspective it's still equally likely for all setup combinations to be possible.
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also why on earth would a blue claim before today, since the remaining scum is also a roleblocker?
If the blue claims he essentially just becomes a vanilla townie the rest of the way. If he found the scum it's game over but if he found a townie the scum basically will just shoot the townie and then roleblock the blue, gg and only vanilla townies left unless you luck out and there's another protective blue.
Then even if there is another protective blue he has to figure out who to protect. Use your brain prpl and stop spouting nonsense.
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