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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 01:28 GMT
#261
@Wiggles There is not much you can say that will change my mind tbh. Reading all your posts they come off to me as fabricated and convinient, not actually a genuine thought process of a townie trying to find scum. The only thing that actually bothers me is the lack of resistance against your lynch, but it's indeed possible that you have a non influential player as your partner. You raise a few good points on MZ, but the evidence is kinda of thin imo and it seems like you are streching it to save your own ass. The same with errandor.
The fact that you chose these 2 to acuse seems extremelly convinient to me when the main people calling you out are suspicious of one or the other. It seems you are specifically trying to alter our reads towards you, not actually trying to find scum on our own, and this only makes sense if you are scum yourself.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 17 2011 01:29 GMT
#262
On November 17 2011 10:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 10:14 Palmar wrote:
On November 17 2011 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Wow, are you all actually going to go for a day 1 mislynch?

Can anyone even tell me why they're voting for me? (And if you say my first post I'm going to be mad at you)

I want to convince you guys that I'm town, and I'm trying to get you to vote for scum (Meapak), but you aren't giving me anything to argue against to change your minds.

This is stupid. -_-


You only chose to contribute to the game very late. Your initial plan for getting information, while not terrible, is something I would never expect someone as town to do, all you had to do was to build a case and run with it, but you chose the passive route over the active one.

I don't agree with you at the moment about MZ, I do kinda share your thoughts about Errandor, but that's an issue for later.

Your first post containing anything of value was only forced out of you after a wagon being established against you. Maybe you just had unfortunate timing, but nothing in that post did much to make me consider you being town.

It wasn't forced out of me though, I was just being pressured so I posted what I was going to anyways in response to you guys. I posted during pretty much all the time periods I had available to me (Breakfast, Lunch, After school). Instead of forming a case around (what I believed) to be pretty bad information at that point, I decided to procure more information and go from there. It actually told me something useful about Meapak and Erandorr too, and I think it was a ton more valuable than the floundering from before. I couldn't draw anything from that.

I feel like a lot of people are voting me just to avoid no-lynch, and because they're "fine with it", as they're not bothering to look at other people themselves. Besides me arguing against Meapak, and him pushing Hiro a little, this lynch is pretty much characterized by complacency.It's going over way too easily, and I don't get why no one sees this.


Of course we see how easy the vote is, we're not retarded. That doesn't change the fact that having good reads is not the entire key to playing town, you also have to look town. Something I'm not seeing from you.

However, I do know you're a smart player, so in case I am wrong about you, can you please do your best and post all the reads, thoughts and information you have just before the deadline. Having your reads could be valuable later on.

Preferably you comment on everyone in the game, so we can at least understand what you were thinking on day 1.
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 02:00:28
November 17 2011 02:00 GMT
#263
Day 1 - Crushing Pressure


The town was out for blood. And blood it got. Dragged screaming and struggling from his house in the middle of the night, Mr Wiggles was black bagged and his hands and feet were bound by thin steel wires. This was so that he would bleed as he struggled and they dug into his skin.

After what felt like an eternity, he awoke and found himself tied down to a cold hard operating table and completely naked. Hooded figures gathered around him and muttered under their breath "Guilty! Guilty!". Throwing his head back, he noticed a man who was in a compeltely white robe. In his hand, he held a scapel. In a quick movement however, the scapel made a longitudinal incision between his bottom most ribs all the way down to his upper abdomin. Using a separator, his abdomin was then pushed apart. Mr Wiggles screamed the whole time. Finally, after completely opening up his abdominal cavity, a large clamp was placed around both his kidneys and his pancreas. Connected to a machine they slowly increased their pressure on his organs until finally his right kidney burst, and then his left. Mr Wiggles' screams filled the room, never ending. Finally, his pancreas was crushed in an explosion of blood and his screams were no more. He had bleed out red.

Mr Wiggles the Mafia Goon is dead
Night 1 Starts and will end in 24 hours.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#264
nice.

with this flip I think we need to look at jay carefully tomorrow.

Hiro's probably still a good bet but I think jay looks worse now.

Everyone go back and read with this flip in mind!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 02:20 GMT
#265
Rofl man, voting wiggles never dissapoints.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 17 2011 02:22 GMT
#266
I need to roll town, lol. GGzzz~~~~
you gotta dance
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 17 2011 02:34 GMT
#267
Creepiest night post ever.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 03:03 GMT
#268
Wtf chaoser, that's some gross shit.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 17 2011 03:09 GMT
#269
On November 13 2011 01:37 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 01:23 Radfield wrote:
OK, we're filled up. Meapak asked if we could wait till Monday to start, so I'll check with him and see what works. Once roles go out the game has begun.

Chaoser will be co-hosting this game, so make sure you send a copy of your night actions to him, as he will be making the night and day posts on Fridays and Saturdays. It's important that you send your night actions to both of us each night though, not just on those days.

Deadline will always be at 9PM EST.


You will all die horribly morbid overly detailed deaths.


Don't say I didn't warn you all
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
November 17 2011 06:57 GMT
#270
Ha! My pregame prediction came true:

On November 13 2011 17:46 hiro protagonist wrote:
I shall be voting for Wiggles first, Seeing as every game we have played together, we never had the same alignment. I see no reason why this game will be any different


Thats like, 6 games in a row now
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
November 17 2011 07:12 GMT
#271
Also, chaoser, your like a doctor or something right?I dont know if I would ever want to seek Medical attention from you now 0_0
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
November 17 2011 07:12 GMT
#272
Ok so going on the assumption that a scum wouldn't bus another scum day one we have: Palmar, Sandroba, Erandorr, and prplhz as town (best part is I had town reads on all of them anyway :D). I know I'm town and I'm fairly certain jaybrundage is town for the simple reason that it would be terrible balance wise to put a complete noob as mafia in a mini (plus he hasn't done anything more stupid then nomal for a noob so I feel fine with him).

That leaves us with WBG and hiro protagonist as mafia. I think we all know who's gonna be my suspect out of that combo. I also reread hiro's posts for any mention of Wiggles and there are a few that I'll talk about tomorrow when I'm on my comp (the one that most caught my attention was in hiro's summary post where he talked about how he felt on each player).

Day 2 win looking possible here folks.

Night everyone.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 17 2011 08:30 GMT
#273
Meapak I don't think you should disregard Jay so easily. Balance considerations might be very useful in larger games, but I don't think we should make unnecessary assumptions here about game setup to ignore potential scum candidates.

If we use the assumption that scum don't bus then we should look at jay.

Meapak why do you think we should consider hiro if we think that scum wouldn't bus? Hiro was the fourth vote on wiggles. Do you think that, if hiro+wiggles were scum and they knew the lynch would come between them, then hiro pushed Wiggles later? Because wiggles was goon? It's a possibility I suppose, but I don't understand why you would say hiro should be a consideration under the assumption that scum wouldn't bus another scum. If you hold that to be true then from your perspective the focus is on me and jay, and probably not hiro. Jay came in and voted Wiggles when it was irrelevant. You and I never voted him.

At this point though, I understand why Palmar would say scum would be more likely to bus in this situation. If we subscribe to that notion then the scum is among the rest of the remaining players.

At any rate I think this game is locked in. We shouldn't be cocky though, it certainly is still possible we can lose.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 17 2011 08:32 GMT
#274
also chaoser isn't a doctor, he's secretly a brutal serial killer!

+ Show Spoiler +
jk jk jk :p
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 17 2011 09:19 GMT
#275
lol, look at that!
Computer says mafia
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 17 2011 09:52 GMT
#276
I don't think that any of the first 5 people voting for Mr. Wiggles yesterday is scum. You just get too far behind if you start out by bussing your teammate, 1v7 is not a great situation for scum.

This leaves wherebugsgo, Meapak_Ziphh, and jaybrundage.

jaybrundage strikes me a genuinely new at this game, and I think a newbie would be more giddy about the QT, about making plans and talking to his scumbuddy before doing something crazy. I don't think a newbie as scum would overplay his newbieness in his very first game. I don't see him voting for wherebugsgo if he were scum, he'd be a lot more worried about getting caught and about his QT.

This leaves wherebugsgo, and Meapak_Ziphh.

I think this is very hard to decide but I don't think that Mr. Wiggles would have pushed for Meapak_Ziphh if Meapak_Ziphh had been his scumbuddy. This is again the "You don't bus your teammate 2v7 day1" idea, they wouldn't want the lynch to be between them as one of them would clearly get lynched then. I think if Meapak_Ziphh had been scum, Mr. Wiggles would have had better targets for lynch that day, such as hiro protagonist but also jaybrundage and Erandorr.

This leaves wherebugsgo.

I think it would be very hard to catch wherebugsgo doing anything overly scummy because, as Palmar stated, he is quite good at scum.

- He doesn't hammer Mr. Wiggles on a flaky foundation of "liking his points about Erandorr".
- He tries to make us focus on hiro protagonist and jaybrundage after lynch, two people who might appear as easy targets but I doubt that either of them is scum.
- He needlessly softclaims power role in his very first post.

I don't think that this alone is enough to pin wherebugsgo as scum but by the process of elimination, I think he's the player who is most likely to be the last scum.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 17 2011 09:58 GMT
#277
EBWOP: ... I don't think that Mr. Wiggles would not have pushed for Meapak_Ziphh if Meapak_Ziphh had been his scumybuddy. ...
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 17 2011 09:58 GMT
#278
Lol no that was actually right in the first place ... my brain just short circuited, sorry about that.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 17 2011 10:08 GMT
#279
It's ok, Imma lynch you tomorrow
Computer says mafia
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 17 2011 11:12 GMT
#280
... single handedly?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
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