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On November 20 2011 18:42 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 14:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@ForumiteLSB is not going to be replaced due to inactivity. Expecting your read on him, preferably after the daypost. Given what the daypost contained, I can't help but ask...why did you want me to post my read on him after the daypost rather than before? Scum don´t shoot those they think are going to be lynched anyway. If you have a solid case on LSB and present it during the night, this will probably causes scum to avoid LSB, expecting Day 2 to be spent killing LSB. If scum don´t know who Town want to lynch the next day, then they might kill off a few of the suspects for the next days lynch. Scum always kill townies, but if they are not sure about Towns opinions, then they might kill off suspicious Townies instead of confirmed Townies. This is why I often urge analysis to be posted the next day or 2 minutes before the daypost, to give scum as little information to base their nightkill on as possible.
This should only be followed if you believe you're safe.
If you think you're a scum target and you might die, you should always publish your reads before the night is over.
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On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote:Chaoser has been subject to lynching for a long time, I'm starting to belive he might be town, either way I don't want to lynch him today. Imo I have better candidates for today, wbg and prphlz. I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie.
My current scumteam.Prplhz
xsksc
Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later.
You say you have a better candidate in me but you don't even talk about me in your post.
God you people...I just don't understand
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I asked this yesterday and no one answered.
For all I'm concerned he's terrible town. He could be scum too.
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What are you going on about?
I agree with Palmar because most of his opinions have been correct. Unlike the rest of you, his reads make sense.
Why Nisani isn't getting turbo lynched is beyond me.
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Greymist the simple fact that you have to ask that of Nisani should probably tell you that he needs to die.
He's not interested in being transparent or following through on what he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He's scum.
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He's not loud at all, he just looks loud when people call him out.
Look on the other side of it. Look at the difference between prpl and nisani. They both appear loud but prpl is far more consistent. That's why I think he's more town than nisani.
Nisani as town is loud and consistently loud. He tunnels hard, but he also doesn't let go of that tunnel even for a second. In this game he just OMGUSes and attacks everyone who thinks he's scum. Then, as you've noticed, he forgets people randomly. In MLP when he caught onto me being scum he never let go. He didn't even bother considering anyone else.
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On November 21 2011 13:23 prplhz wrote:
I'm inclined to believe Palmar's hit claim for now. I don't believe that there is a vig out there who hit him. This means that he got hit by mafia. If two people aren't hit by mafia tomorrow then we'll know a lot more about this situation. Palmar is a poor lynch today, we wait and see if scum really has 2KP, which doesn't sound far fetched.
@wherebugsgo
Isn't that exactly what he's doing here? Nisani201 has been on your back since the beginning of this game. I also don't think he's less loud than me, probably more loud. Loud is a bad thing here, Nisani201 is saying stuff like "herp" in caps.
No, read more carefully. In MLP Nisani attacked me before I attacked him. He built a reasonable case and then tunneled, ignoring everyone. He tunneled so hard that practically no other player existed to him.
In this game he just OMGUSed me and never built any sort of case. It's more similar to XLV than anything else.
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I've said repeatedly I don't think prpl is scum. Sorry for my absence, I'm going to be absent a little more today because of class and homework. I have about 20 minutes now (till the hour)
1. Whoever replaced chaoser should probably die. Chaoser was scummy enough that I don't care who replaces him. He should die.
2. Nisani is scum, so he should die. I've pointed out why he is scum, and he really hasn't done anything today to prove otherwise.
3. DCLXVI or whatever his name is should probably die as well, but I think prpl has been hammered, so we should probably leave him till tomorrow. Out of the three, I'm least confident on this guy, but he seems to be pushing a scum agenda every time he posts, so I'd like people to pay attention to him.
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##vote: DCLXVI
go die, scum. I forgot this earlier lol
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number of people voting already-hammered candidates = 3 and counting.
wtf come on you derps
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good god you guys are a bunch of ...
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On November 22 2011 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
good god you guys are a bunch of ...
-___- WBG, to repeat the question that was lost a page back, do you think we should still lynch nisani with prp's post-mortem blue claim? what makes him different now than sinani and prp?
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I feel like a broken record. Unless Nisani does anything additionally bad in the future, I will keep referring people back to this post specifically, since I do believe I've repeated my reasoning at least twice now.
Here's the bulk of the initial case:
On November 18 2011 05:40 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG you are so wrong... I provided a reason for every single one my votes. Okay, I think I understand now. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:55 Nisani201 wrote:
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.
But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.
##Vote: Kenpachi That's not a reason. "Kenpachi is irrelevant therefore he should die" is not a reason for him being scum. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote:
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.
##Vote: Palmar That sounds like a reason, but actually it's just bull. Completely unsubstantiated. Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 02:16 Nisani201 wrote:On November 17 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?
Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.
##Vote: Forumite Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201? Both of them are bullshit. First we have this case against LSB, which I already mentioned: On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:/confirm On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means. LAL?For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup. Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +Or it means don't get caught lying. Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean? Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously? Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post? FoS LSBAs for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once. And then we have this: On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote:On November 16 2011 22:09 xsksc wrote:On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote:On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same. FoS: xsksc Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost? No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started. And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him? He is pressuring them based on bullshit cases. ------------ In regards to chaoser, I don't think that Palmar's analysis has enough evidence to prove him guilty. Just because it's Palmar doesn't mean that we can't look at his analysees objectively. When Palmar asked you "what case is bullshit" you just picked the two and said they're bullshit. You didn't say why. You didn't point out anything that seemed fabricated. You just said they're bullshit. Real convincing, dude. Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.
Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?
##Vote: Drazerk This one makes you a hypocrite, since you also voted Kenpachi. The problem is that both you and Drazerk look terrible, and neither of you has amazing town play. Drazerk is straight up bad as town (no offense, Drazerk you defended yourself by saying that lol). I'd rather vote you over Drazerk right now since you seem to be soft-defending chaoser at every turn, and I don't like chaoser right now. So, you need to die. ##unvote Drazerk
##vote Nisani201
#2 is his shift in behavior from the way he previously plays.
here's more:
On November 18 2011 08:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nisani your defense is terrible and you are pushing bad lynches.
Notice how no one agrees with you, other than perhaps Drazerk? Yeah, that's cause you don't have a case on Forumite. Your vote on him is bad.
Drazerk is a bad lynch today too, for the simple reason that he's just been cocky. People are trying to use LaL to lynch him, which is honestly hilarious.
#3, he was one of the players who was on only one of the wagons yesterday. He voted Kenpachi for really dumb reasons, then appeared to back off when he got hammered. That was shady to me even before the flip.
#4, what separates him from sinani is that nisani actually has a discernible style as town and scum. In this game he has OMGUSed every single person who initially voted him (myself, Palmar, cyber) and as town he doesn't do that, generally.
He's not a very good player, but he's not this bad either.
Then, he continually pushed Drazerk for no reason, even going so far as to connect me and Drazerk. Unsubstantiated assumptions ftw. As town he doesn't tend to do such things, he just tunnels one player. He randomly voted multiple people day 1 and claimed he actually had reasoning for his votes despite failing to come up with them over and over.
Lastly, since I thought chaoser was scum, and he straight up refused to comment on Nisani, I was increasingly suspicious that they were scum together.
We can't determine that until one of them flips, of course, but it's a lead nevertheless.
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also DCLXVI is soft-claiming medic.
A real medic wouldn't do that...
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yeah, I'd prefer seeing nisani die.
also DCLXVI said something about not protecting Palmar. That's dead obvious if prpl is telling the truth, why restate it?
It sounds as if he's claiming medic. Real medic would not do that.
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also I don't think any competent medic would ever protect prpl, so him actually truly claiming medic is thrown out the window. DCLXVI should die.
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On November 22 2011 09:37 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I don't think any competent medic would ever protect prpl, so him actually truly claiming medic is thrown out the window. DCLXVI should die. He said he visited Tyrran, not prpl.
ah yes, my bad. I'm on my phone atm. I'll read through again before posting.
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On November 22 2011 10:01 Nisani201 wrote:
omg, it's working. You guys are all sheep for voting on me.
Palmar has not even attempted to defend himself, and you are still trusting him.
Why are you trusting a case made by obvious scum? Palmar is the enemy here. All of you should be lynching him. If you don't think he's scummy, read my analysis again.
WBG is just being his usual tunneling self, and I am starting to lean more towards him being scum than him being stupid town.
I don't think I'm going to get lynched today, but we have to realize that the true enemy is Palmar. He is the king of misguiding the town this game.
From now on, I want you to read everything he says objectively. Don't mindlessly trust him like you have been so far. WBG is sort of the same thing (except he's merely a parrot).
wtf?
bum what do you think of nisani?
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RoL, we don't have two medic claims. A medic flipped yesterday, prpl is claiming some sort of copycat (and he's already been hammered) and DCLXVI fucked up and soft-claimed medic.
Which, I doubt is a real town claim, I think it's a scumclaim. Now he continually soft claims without actually stating his damn role.
If you're town you would've disclosed full info by now. I highly doubt that you are at this point.
Bum, can you clarify why you chose to vote in the manner that you did?
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actually I should rephrase that:
if you were town and you made the mistake of soft claiming medic, you would full claim by now.
Since townies are very unlikely to soft claim medic like the way DCL did, he's pretty much guaranteed to be scum.
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On November 22 2011 11:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
WBG, Have you read all of his posts?
yep.
also the soft claim was him saying he didn't protect Palmar.
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