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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 01:23 GMT
#1152
On November 09 2011 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey bugs, since you're allowed to pm Radfield, would you mind messaging him to provide his thoughts?

I don't really expect to hear from RoL (though I would love to). He is posting in the website feedback thread and the mlg thread.

Hopefully this will attract kurumi's attention:

[image loading]


I have been PMing him and spamming our personal QT and also spamming him on skype (he's normally invisible)

I have received 0 replies in over 48 hours. It's not for lack of trying, trust me, I would've loved his opinion yesterday when I pushed team SS because I was clearly wrong and it would've been nice to have a second opinion.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 01:24 GMT
#1153
On November 09 2011 10:19 GreYMisT wrote:

GMarshal is saying he fake claimed medic as town to help the medic, and presented the ultimatum "lynch whichever one of us is alive"
.


this times 500
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 01:31 GMT
#1159
On November 09 2011 10:28 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 10:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:19 GreYMisT wrote:

GMarshal is saying he fake claimed medic as town to help the medic, and presented the ultimatum "lynch whichever one of us is alive"
.


this times 500

Because I would totally do that as scum and then shoot chaoser.

Totally.

I also enjoy claiming godfather day 1.

Anyway, I'm done explaining myself unless people have specific questions, it should be pretty clear how my actions could pretty much only come from a town viewpoint, unless you are accusing me of playing scum as well as I play a banjo with my feet.


More WIFOM!

yay.

red+Kita, all that matters now is the second scum. Let's move onto that.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 01:34 GMT
#1162
On November 09 2011 10:32 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 10:29 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:28 GMarshal wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:19 GreYMisT wrote:

GMarshal is saying he fake claimed medic as town to help the medic, and presented the ultimatum "lynch whichever one of us is alive"
.


this times 500

Because I would totally do that as scum and then shoot chaoser.

Totally.

I also enjoy claiming godfather day 1.

Anyway, I'm done explaining myself unless people have specific questions, it should be pretty clear how my actions could pretty much only come from a town viewpoint, unless you are accusing me of playing scum as well as I play a banjo with my feet.


On November 09 2011 10:21 GreYMisT wrote:
GM, I know you have been busy with the whole "trying not to get killed" thing, but what do you think about red21 withholding info? you have yet to mention it at all.


Could you answer this please? it got lost in the potatoes post.

I think they are plotting something with the info they have. Letting it play out. Its not a bad way to use it, I can't wait to see what trap they spring, because at this point its pretty much the only chance we have to pull out of this mess which I have managed to make


Who's that second scum, GM?

Who is my "scumbuddy"?

lolol
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 01:46 GMT
#1166
On November 09 2011 10:41 redFF wrote:

tldr gm is scum

dont vote tho please


[image loading]
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 02:28 GMT
#1171
lol we're running in circles.

Also Radfield is here! I talked to him a bit on skype and he says he's gonna post something.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 02:46 GMT
#1175
On November 09 2011 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Rad, what is your opinion on the GM medic claim? Do you agree that he was trying to trick us into checking him causing a day 3 mislynch?


wut

Radfield is no longer replying to me on skype; last thing he said was he's going to sleep. He's still online, though. I'll let him respond to this if he's still here.

I'm peacing now, though. I've been sitting on this thread for over 7 hours and I have a stats midterm in less than 15 hours. I'll pop back in every now and then as I'm studying.

I'll be back for sure after class tomorrow, since I have no school commitments (other than my midterm and classes) until Monday next week.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 16:10 GMT
#1201
Good morning guys, my midterm is in an hour I'll be back at around 11 am local (3 hr from now) until 2; class. Also there are gonna be demonstrations here which I wanna take part of lol. Radfield has told me he will be available after work so I assume at some point we will both be here for discussion.

For now I'll make this quick and simple. I'll elaborate on everything later, I promise.

Given that the check is real, we have to kill team S&G. Then, IMO the best kill will be GM's team afterward. The fact that nipple and GM's team are opposite alignments doesn't make GM look better.

Ultimately the only difference for me with respect to these two confirmed liars is that I am town. I don't think town would ever fake claim in GM's situation but there is still an incredibly remote chance he is not scum, and an incredibly low chance is still greater than 0.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 19:21 GMT
#1216
On my phone; I might actually not have computer access for several more hours.

Kurumi's last few posts don't indicate anything more of his alignment.

You can't fault him for talking about us when you specifically said anyone who pushes GM's lynch is anti-town, red. You also can't fault him for uncertainty when you said your check could be fake.

Honestly, your approach isn't going to give you anything. GM hasn't even responded and he'll probably come in the thread and nitpick now that he's seen everyone's reactions.

From my perspective S&G has to be scum if the check is real. Then either GM is scum or Kurumi is scum, with GM being far more likely since he's a confirmed liar and almost everything he's done in the last 48 hours has been anti-town. His activity patterns match his scum meta from SMG too; he smurfed in that game and landed scum vig. He was really active day 1, posted a big case, then shot his target and disappeared. Didn't get lynched cause no one noticed him afterward (Zona shot him tho)
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#1289
Scum isn't hammering because supersoft is one of the scum.

Rofl.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:06 GMT
#1297
On November 10 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
Scum isn't hammering because supersoft is one of the scum.

Rofl.

or because gm isn't here


Oh trust me, I bet GM is here.

Super is trying to bait a townie to vote on team nipple. Once that happens GM will hammer and the game is over.

Grey/super are playing good cop bad cop right now.

There is more than enough evidence right now to kill super+grey. If you don't see that then I honestly pity you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:12 GMT
#1304
Case in point:

as soon as you said your check made one of us scum, super said that GM is not scum. The check says nothing about GM's status as scum or not. He doesn't instantly become town. That connects them together.

I also noticed just now that super claimed I said meta is useless (that's not true). I never said meta is useless, I just said people need to learn how to use it. Meta from PM games doesn't carry one to one to regular games and vice versa. You have to be careful how you use it.

S&G have been trying to get on the "right side" all of today. Now they're trying to bait a mistake from town.

Finally, look at the night kills. It perfectly conforms to a GM+S&G scumteam. I've already explained why, if I were scum, it would make no sense for me to shoot chaoser. I would've either shot GM if he was scum, (who claimed first) or I would've shot the other townie, (which would be S&G I guess according to team S&G) That would allow us to hammer a GM lynch within like 10 seconds.

Why does GM have to be on the scumteam? Because he outed the medic. Any scumteam that doesn't have GM on it would need to get a baller night 1 rolecheck.

GM and S&G both being scum is the most likely scenario right now.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:17 GMT
#1315
On November 10 2011 06:12 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:06 redFF wrote:
the lynch is between chezinu and s&g.


so now i ask 2 questions

Chezinu, why is s&g scum?

S&G, why is chezinu scum?



I ALREADY POINTED THAT OUT FILTER ME I HAVE ONLY FEW POSTS!!!
wbg accepted me as town way too early to gain my trust
wbg wanted to turbolynch GM today for no reason
wbg said kurumi is an easylynch
wbg floods the thread and accused chaoser the medic

I accused Kurumi with good reasons day2
I have a good plan for today
I presented alternative lynches
I have a VT-Pm from palmar in my inbox

goddamnit. ##vote team nipples fuck


lol.

#1. I didn't "accept" you as town. You are the one who said I am sure town based on my posting history and meta. Nice attempt to twist history there.

#2. Your team wanted to turbolynch GM today too. Guess what, that's the most logical thing to do when the night kill confirms GM as a lying fake claimer.

#3. Kurumi IS the easy lynch, he's done nothing while you and GM can hide behind the tiny bit of extra activity you have over Kurumi.

#4. I accused chaoser the medic. Good. Now in what world would I then shoot chaoser when I kept saying he would make a good lynch the next day? The funny part about this is Greymist keeps referencing MLP and conveniently forgetting how Nisani was in that game. I was scum and I pushed Nisani HARD (who was convinced I was scum the entire game) Our team left him alive and I kept trying to push his lynch every day there on out.

#5. You accused team nipple of being scum day 2. Great, I accused them on day 1. You even pointed out to team SS that I was the first one to express concern about team nipple. Now you conveniently forget that? Jesus.

#6. Alternative lynches rofl

#7. So do I.

Then you randomly vote again. umadbro?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:19 GMT
#1318
Alright kita+red, you satisfied?

The lynch comes down to your vote.

If you let GM get away with this, the town loss is on your hands. We had him at the beginning of the day and you basically pissed it away by seeding doubt.

The simple fact that you said your check could be fake has allowed GM and S&G to muddy the waters.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:19 GMT
#1320
AND LOOK, I was right about GM being here.

Jesus.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:20 GMT
#1323
On November 10 2011 06:16 supersoft wrote:
HAHAHAHA they dont hammer!! i knew it!!


once again, scum can't hammer a 1 voted townie when YOU are one half of the scumteam.

All it proves is that scum cannot be GM+me. You're an idiot.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:21 GMT
#1324
On November 10 2011 06:20 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:19 wherebugsgo wrote:

The simple fact that you said your check could be fake has allowed GM and S&G to muddy the waters.

Deliberate and harmful lie! At no point did I accuse kita of lying about the check or anything of the sort!


Both Greymist and super expressed doubt about kita+red.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:22 GMT
#1328
On November 10 2011 06:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:15 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:14 GMarshal wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:13 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:11 redFF wrote:
great since everyone is here. gm, chez or s&g?


The Vote is going to ultimately come down to you team red21

Barring any sudden changes in opinion this is what we have thus far:
me and WBG are going to vote against each other, Kurumi has already said he thinks I'm scum, and GM said that he thinks WBG is scum. Thats 2v2, leaving you as the tiebreaker.

I'm going to vote for the opposite of whatever kurumi's team votes, because I know them to be scum.


err, that logic doesn't work.


Regardless, you must realize kita that this comes down to your team. All I can really do to sway you at the moment is say that I am town. at the start of the day WBG jumped onto my push for you to reveal your checks, but faded off while I stayed fanatical about it. Kurumi's argument about my increase in activity around LYLO is null, because he has done the same, just with overall less prior activity. When a town WBG exists in a game, he makes damn sure everyone is voting for his "target" of the day, or goes on a flipping rampage to make sure that happens. He has not done that this game, but rather has made sure to appear aggressive, while going after a wide range of targets. No where early on does he really try to push people to join his lynch.

Hopefully you come to the right choice, and lynch team chezinu.


That's real convenient when you SHOT my target of the day, right?

There are huge gaping holes in your arguments and you can't even see them because you're blind lying scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:23 GMT
#1334
On November 10 2011 06:21 supersoft wrote:
fakecheck makes sense, SS greenflip goes in gms favour. he seriously tried to find scum and didnt want to protect sandro


Do you even KNOW what the implication of the real check is?

The check doesn't confirm GM as town. Good god.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#1339
On November 10 2011 06:24 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:20 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:15 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:14 GMarshal wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:13 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:11 redFF wrote:
great since everyone is here. gm, chez or s&g?


The Vote is going to ultimately come down to you team red21

Barring any sudden changes in opinion this is what we have thus far:
me and WBG are going to vote against each other, Kurumi has already said he thinks I'm scum, and GM said that he thinks WBG is scum. Thats 2v2, leaving you as the tiebreaker.

I'm going to vote for the opposite of whatever kurumi's team votes, because I know them to be scum.


err, that logic doesn't work.


Regardless, you must realize kita that this comes down to your team. All I can really do to sway you at the moment is say that I am town. at the start of the day WBG jumped onto my push for you to reveal your checks, but faded off while I stayed fanatical about it. Kurumi's argument about my increase in activity around LYLO is null, because he has done the same, just with overall less prior activity. When a town WBG exists in a game, he makes damn sure everyone is voting for his "target" of the day, or goes on a flipping rampage to make sure that happens. He has not done that this game, but rather has made sure to appear aggressive, while going after a wide range of targets. No where early on does he really try to push people to join his lynch.

Hopefully you come to the right choice, and lynch team chezinu.


That's real convenient when you SHOT my target of the day, right?

There are huge gaping holes in your arguments and you can't even see them because you're blind lying scum.


and more WIFOM, damn we are getting tipsey aren't we.

Your assault does not phase me, I know I am town and therefore have nothing to prove to you, only to kita/red.


You accuse me of WIFOM when your team is the one seeding it everywhere. super is wallowing in it right now, he somehow thinks that by voting kurumi and him not dying it proves he's town.

That's the definition of WIFOM and you're both hypocrites for trying to accuse me of using it.

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