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Drem903
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No experience at all playing mafia, so hopefully i don't screw this up for anyone | ||
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Drem903
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He only seems to post to try and appear active. | ||
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Drem903
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If you're not able to change you're vote, then we also have to be very suspicious of zanfada. We both randomly chose a person to try and encourage discussion, but he actually voted. If you can't change you're vote, then that seems suspicious to me, as he seems in a hurry to lynch someone (anyone). If you can change you're vote, then it's no big deal, but it's still something to consider. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
On October 31 2011 05:04 IMABUNNEH wrote: Hmm good point, that'll teach me to reread better. We still haven't heard from Skrammen though, and I still think Toad is dodgy. Since other than telling people they should post more posts, he hasn't really said anything. Zanfada also has not posted at all since his initial accusation, so he should also be one to consider for now. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
His only notable post just recounts information that everyone should know (though some may not have read the thread too carefully and could've forgotten). Although i feel the need to point out, that SKrammen did call out Zanfada for being hasty to vote (even if he could later rescind the vote). If they were both scum, then it wouldn't make sense for them to call suspicion upon one another. Zanfada also hasn't posted in a while, and the only notable parts of his posts were: asking the blues to post more frequently (though not to identify themselves), and to defend himself from hacklebeasts own accusations. So, the people i'm currently very suspicious of are: SKrammen and Zanfada. When i get more time to really look at everyone's posts this might change, but it's just those 2 for now. ##vote Zanfada | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
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Drem903
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Mostly because he seems adamant about convincing us that he is town, and constantly restates that point over and over again. Which seems like something mafia would do if they were desperate to avoid a lynch. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:36 Toadesstern wrote: was that about me? If yes than I'll ask you a question: If someone said you're mafia and in reality you're town. So given that situation: You would not try to convince people you're town? Because that's going to get people on the right track and town will avoid a town lynch. I'd say in both cases I'm going to try and convince you I'm town :p As town you should have nothing to be afraid of, and shouldn't have to to keep saying "trust me, i'm town". You're actions will show people if you're town more so than you saying it. To me, the latter is far more suspicious. If people think you're scum, then telling them you're not doesn't change their mind. That's just my opinion on it. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
Although it is noteworthy to say that Toad does have a point about Risk not really posting that much. He's actively defending SK, although he immediately tries to spurn attention back on SK when he is called into question, and a few of his posts are just updates on him lurking. He has also tried to get people to look at Toad. So if Toad is mafia, then risk probably isn't. If risk is mafia, then toad isn't, and SKrammen is also mafia because risk wouldn't defend him if he wasn't. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
Something to consider is that Mafia may have killed Risk to try and reinforce the current FOS on Toad. | ||
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Drem903
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On November 02 2011 11:16 risk.nuke wrote: good luck town. We will avenge you good sir! | ||
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Drem903
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Reasons: 1) His posts are long when a simple reply could answer the question (disregarding his analysis post on risk). As scum he's using longer posts to try and cover all possible points that could indicate him to be Mafia. 2) The only person who would benefit from Risk's death is Toad. Now, my earlier statement on that was it could be a Mafia ploy to distract us, but that would also be immediately obvious so it could be a double trick (kill risk to get suspicion on toad, but we realize that and stop focusing on toad, and then toad is mafia so it was just a convoluted trap that could work). At this point it just gets into an infinite chain of back and forth. 3) one of his earliest posts was to tell blues to post more frequently, which could have been a way to encourage the new Blue's to help the town, or (more likely) try and make them a mafia target. Anyway, now that i'm a genuine target. As i said, my reasoning for not lynching SK was that my suspicion was not enough to risk lynching him if he's town. If Rammen was town, then we would have ended up losing two townies on day 1, leaving us with a bare majority (we would have 6 out of 10 people), which means every one of us would have to agree. The risk is that if one or two mafia make even an ok case, some town may agree with them and then we get split vote once more. I wasn't convinced enough on SK to vote for him so i didn't. This is only my first game, so maybe that's just a nooby mistake and it's usually worth it to take a chance on the lynch, but i just didn't think it was in the town's best interest to take that chance. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
We still have a much larger majority, so it's still not the worst situation. Also, even if we did succeed, all it would take was 2 other indecisive townies to vote differently (or vote with mafia unwittingly), to have nothing done today. Either way i could have screwed up much worse, and i do apologize for making the noobiest mistake possible. | ||
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
To go into some posts on those 3: chocolate+ Show Spoiler + - last post was about being more agressive against people who make mistakes While we should keep what risk said in mind, imo we should not hesitate to vote someone just for making a noob mistake that could very well be a scum mistake, such as asking, " detective what did you find" or something along those lines. and he has contributed next to nothing to any of the conversations. His only other notable post was to just say what everyone else said and point out that SKrammen was the prime suspect. Major point to take from this: If chocolate is Mafia, then SKrammen likely isn't. Also, as SKrammen pointed out in one of his posts, chocolate never made a case against him, but was quick to vote for him. Not once did you FoS on me, yet you preffered to vote me instead of zanfa. You also FoS'd Ciry but claim you didnt. You seem to be a bit everywhere, throwing suspicions left and right. To me, it appears like you are trying to be a bit of an instigator while saying very little of substance. You've posted nearly as little as I have done, and you say you vote me because of lack of activity? SKrammen + Show Spoiler + - His last post was to defend himself after Zanfada questioned him for poor word choice in an earlier statement If you decide to lynch me anyway, and I do flip green, there's a good chance all of the scum will be among those who are most adamant about lynching me. If I flip red, then risk and bunneh got some 'splaining to do. I.E. he only really posted under the conditions that he accused Zanfada was posting under What about you. So far, the only thing you have done is come in, instigate somthing on someone else, defend yourself when you got under pressure only to disappear again. And here you are again. He accuses Zan of only posting when under pressure, yet when the heat drops off of him and goas back to toad, he's nowhere to be seen.Hacklebeast + Show Spoiler + he's probably posted the least of anyone here, so he's either Scum, or an inactive townie. His only notable post to discussion was voting for Toad on day 1 (his vote could also have had SKrammen lynched). Now prior to choosing Toad as his target, he was trying to implicate Zanfada, and he jokingly tries to claim not to be scum because he loves ponies. ## vote toadesstern There is not a lot to go off of when trying to discern if if he's town/mafia, but there is one notable comment, he is the only person to defend chocolate, and then immediately try and turn all discussion back on Toad. It should be noted, that if hackle is mafia, then so is chocolate, as hackle would have no reason to defend chocolate if he wasn't.I think his moves have been shady since the beginning. First tries to get the important figures to revel themselves (not explicitly, but if a lurker suddenly started posting significantly after it would give mafia a good clue), then follows it up with a lot of talk about the necessity to kill lurkers. To top it off he fingers chocolate only to rescind his vote after no one else follows suit. ##unvote Toadesstern I'm unvoteing Toad, because i think i was too hasty in my judgment on him. These three above, are the most suspicious people we have, and should be the ones we put more pressure on. | ||
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You seem to leave out Chocolate despite have earlier suspicions on him? What has happened to change that. You claim i'm lurking despite that fact that i post pretty regularly, but seem to disregard the fact that chocolate hasn't posted in ~21 hours. Again i reiterate my samepoint, it's likely that if hackle is mafia, then chocolate would be also. The reciprocal isn't necessary true, as chocolate never references hackle, but we can't disregard hackles defense and chocolates even more suspicious lurking. | ||
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