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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 09 2011 17:29 GMT
#41
Well, as far as I can tell the objection being raised around here is breadcrumbing unique elements of the role PM that might be shared with others who happen to have the same role.

I don't have any objections to this practice as I try to avoid imposing any sort of restrictions on what players can post, other than game rules required to keep the game fair and civil. But then I craft my role PMs so that any similarities are deliberate. With the investment of just a little effort other hosts can do the same.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 09 2011 22:15 GMT
#42
or, more hosts could like me:

+ Show Spoiler +
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN
VANILLA TOWN


YOU DON'T GOT NOTHING SON

YOUR TEAMMATE IS SEVRYN, VOTE THEM SCUMMY FUCKERS TO DEATH

HERE'S A QT!

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/AvZkkMkGR5nu



you got your wish

if you want, here's a QT for you: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vVhJxMWReQYnf

oh, and you're Vanilla Ice.

enjoy the game



you're............................

Mafia goon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your teammate is wherebugsgo

here's your private quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/QC3DhDfhpQQu

also, here's the shared mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iWxkggUv2bpN

your fellow scum are Kurumi&Rebirthoflegend playing as mafia role cop.



you're house md.

or something similar

heal people bittttch

+ Show Spoiler +
pro-tip, this means you're the Doctor



your teammate is hyshes

here's a QT if you guys want it: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TFQy48AZhbC9


Vanilla Town

You are Vanilla Town, all you have is your voice and your vote to save the village from the mafia. You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

Your teammate is iGrok

Here's your private QT if you wish to use one: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vVhJxMWReQYnf


supersoft & GreYMisT

you're vanilla town

here's a QT if you want: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/fmhyU3Lhmpi


Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop
Parity Cop



your teammate is redFF

qt: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/by3iNgiPFLJ


Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
December 09 2011 22:32 GMT
#43
The problem is not about the hosts, but the players who will grab capitalized "y" to call someone scum//faking claim or even an "i" missing in Vanilla.
I understand the concept of breadcrumbing, same flavour text for same roles is just dumb.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:59:44
December 09 2011 22:59 GMT
#44
LOL Palmar those role PMs were funny.

Anyway discussing role PMs hasn't been an issue AFAIK since PYP:I or XLV. I don't think any game since has had that issue.

Primarily it's been a problem in PM games, but also a problem of lack of consistency among hosts and co-hosts (in the same game)

There are a few obvious solutions, but the best is to simply keep consistency among the hosts. Also one can provide mafia the option to ask for fake claims, that works well too IMO.

iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 09 2011 23:00 GMT
#45
Up to the hosts. If they don't want it, be like Palmar, give examples, or write out separate flavor text.

Personally I don't mind breadcrumbing your role, just so long as players understand that it could go wrong: I once gave a town and mafia player similar flavor text.

I'll also be using my own OP, because this one is too long and most players know it
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#46
I strongly dislike players referencing their role PMs. If you want to convince me you are town, do it properly and play the game. It's the same reason you don't quote your role PMs or post the time you received it, just further down the spectrum. Play mafia, don't try to game the system.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 19:33:09
December 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#47
I don't have time to do the full update I promised a while ago, but I'm putting in something right now to stop the breadcrumbing thing. It has come up too often for my tastes and I'm sick of dealing with it. The way I see things, there are 2 options: mods can post their role PMs so breadcrumbing can't happen or we can just make a rule against breadcrumbing your role PM and be done with it. I prefer the one which makes less work for the mods, so I'll edit in a new rule. For the record, I still think it is moronic that this has to be put in here explicitly at all. It is cheating and people should know better.

EDIT: I made 2 changes to the rules:
1. I edited #6 to read "Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host."
2. I added #11 which reads "Breadcrumbing the specific wording of your role PM. Do not compare the wording in your role PM to prove your alignment."

Hopefully between the two, that fixes the breadcrumbing problem. Please let me know if you would like me to change the phrasing a bit.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 10 2011 08:58 GMT
#48
oh man this happened again??!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
December 10 2011 17:40 GMT
#49
Yeah hopefully this will be enough. It should not be happening period. The OP change is needed for games with closed setups.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 12 2011 02:44 GMT
#50
On December 10 2011 07:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
Anyway discussing role PMs hasn't been an issue AFAIK since PYP:I or XLV. I don't think any game since has had that issue.
[...]

Maybe not but the Model OP isn't for preventing issues with ongoing or past games, it's for preventing issues with future games.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 01:07 GMT
#51
Hey guys, I don't know if this is like, too much work for mods, but check this out:

1. prplhz
2. Ver

...you know, for the playerlist instead of linking to their profiles? Filter is arguably the best new function we've been graced with, and one of the biggest issues I have right now is like, trying to think of a page that had a post by someone so I can go filter them. What if we linked to their filter for the game they're in in the player-list? That way we could all just go to Pg1 and click their name for a filter of the game?

Food for thought.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 16 2011 01:12 GMT
#52
I did that in that 80 player game VE, fuck man... that was crazy amount of work.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 01:15 GMT
#53
Yeah, but I see mods linking to profiles and it occurred to me that it would be EASIER to do that than linking to profiles.

I see what you're saying though, it seems like it would be more work. But in my experience hosting (lolbad, you were there) it seems like something they could do like, between cycle changes when not much is going on.

Just a thought.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 01:16 GMT
#54
Also....THAT WAS 80 PLAYERS BRO
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
December 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#55
On December 10 2011 07:32 Kurumi wrote:
The problem is not about the hosts, but the players who will grab capitalized "y" to call someone scum//faking claim or even an "i" missing in Vanilla.
I understand the concept of breadcrumbing, same flavour text for same roles is just dumb.


LOL that was the greatest thing ever.

For people who don't get it in one game Kurumi was a Vigilante. Kurumi is known as the only person to capitalize everytime he types "You." He came under suspicion so we made him claim and in his role PM the "You" was capitalized leading everyone to think that he had faked the role PM and typed it up by himself.
wat
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
December 16 2011 19:37 GMT
#56
Huh I didn't know that was an option. I'll see what I can do about encouraging people to add it. Though in clue games it might be more useful to link to the profile (as we have done in the past).
Uff Da
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 16 2011 19:41 GMT
#57
Profile links are easy since you can just copy and paste the same url around the signup names and you're done. Filter links are a bit trickier since you have to find the user id of every player. Is there an easier way to do this? I suppose you can try and track down all the /in posts in the thread and use that to get the user id's.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
December 16 2011 20:37 GMT
#58
lol I was going to put filter links under every player in my LotR game but I got too lazy to do it.

I commend every host who makes that sort of effort!
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 16 2011 21:09 GMT
#59
For the mod spreadsheet for XLVIII I did that.

That's something the players could do for themselves if they want I suppose. Or the host. if the host feels nice.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 23:12 GMT
#60
Right-click on the filter button on a post and hit 'Copy Link Location'. You could do it from the "/in" post and it will be the same address the whole game. The two examples I used were literally from the two posters above me in this thread.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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