Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VI

On September 27 2011 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:


So this clears the uppe FoS of Zany_001.



Ciryandor, you are the only one i've played with in LoTR. I have no idea about anyone but you. And there you died at night 1 :/

For all ppl. If you are either medic or detective, in any circumstances don't leave any breadcrumbs about your role day 1. Becouse then your gonna be an easy target to mafia. I would also like, if all townies would contribute as much as possible. Becouse those people are easy to mafia to push them for a mislynch without much explanation needed afterwards.

On September 28 2011 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ciry, btw have you played with any other of these ppl?

On September 28 2011 12:39 JoshKirby wrote:


You forgot me.
It's understandable why there are a fair amount of lurkers on the first day. Outside of zany, no one has done anything unusual, and we don't even know what the setup is yet. There's not a lot to add.

On September 29 2011 10:24 Toadesstern wrote:
My point was that we're having serious trouble getting 6 votes on someone and every vote counts. If there's going to be 6 modkills and we got 3 votes on someone else it's still a wasted day because we don't get a lynch at all.
Then I guess if that's going to happen we don't even have the chance to change that.

To sum it up it's something like this:
We're pretty screwed right now with only 6 guys voting, however if 2 or three guys more show up we might get something done and even in that case it's going to be hard to get 6 guys voting for the same. The guy I quoted said he's not online => he's not going to change.
If we get 6 modkills we won't get a majority anyway, however if we don't that one vote might make a difference.
In my opinion it's the only way to not screw up day1 for town, although it's probably still not enough.

On September 29 2011 10:39 Toadesstern wrote:


yeah, just came to my mind as well. The real problem here is that it's np for mafia to just act like they're town as well. I mean we got 6 guys voting, even if edwin was mafia they'd have no problem switching a couple votes on edwin because hell. At least that's what I'd do if I where mafia (talking about us 4 right now, obviously now I'd not get more votes on him if I where mafia)
As mentioned we got pretty much zero info right now except for one statement that sounds stupid in a noob game.
I might be doing this right now, just like you could or zany, knowing that 6 guys aren't here voting and there's probably not going to be a lynch on day 1.

So I am questioning this right now, because it makes it realy easy for mafia on day1 looking like they care about getting a lynch.
Than again I can't think of something better right now. Surely giving up on day1 sounds no good to me as well.

On September 29 2011 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah I really was just talking about that vote-for-edwin-move out of context thinking it's a standard for both mafia and town right now. We'll see more after night post.

On September 29 2011 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:


I was voting him to get him post, that's why I also said said i won't be around here when the day ends (which was anyways true).

Wasn't the day supposed to end Thursday 5AM (CAT, +2 GMT)?

If the day really continues, we need to think about our voting more. Ciryandor, isn't it better to vote someone who's gonna be modkilled, than some random person, given that at least I have no clue who could be scum? People seriously need to post more, this way we are pretty sure gonna lynch a townie, mafia is gonna kill a townie over night, and when day 2 begins, we are in a pretty much same situation that we were in day 1, and there are 2 dead townies. :/

On September 29 2011 19:39 JoshKirby wrote:


I agree, since lynching a player who will be mod-killed is like performing a no-lynch this round. In the worst (and likely) case, the inactive player is a townie. Then there are 3 mafia and 8 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they can win after 2 day cycles.
If we lynch an active player, then there are 3 mafia and 7 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they still have to play 2 day cycles. Furthermore, the detective has a better chance of finding a mafioso since there are less people to consider, and the doctor has a greater chance of saving someone.
The downsides to killing an active player are
1) If there's a doctor they get one extra chance to save in the worst-case scenario. The chance of succeeding in that save is small, though (1/6).
2) We might kill the doctor/detective, and revealing their role probably won't help them since in 2/3rds of the setups they're by themselves and will get killed during the night. There's at most a 2/11 chance of that happening, though.

Toadesstern is the only active player who's gotten a vote, so I'll vote for him this round.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE Toadesstern

On September 30 2011 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:


You are right. I wasn't thinking people would follow me in my Edwin vote, as i said i just wanted him to post at least something. That is also why i said, that if the day continues, we should think about our votes again (becouse he turned out to be inactive).

But yeah, basically what you said in the paragraph i bolded, is true. What i was thinking i agree is wrong.

On September 30 2011 13:04 GreYMisT wrote:
I'll replace in gmarshal. But how will I ever convince them I'm town?
Oh wait

On October 06 2011 12:11 GMarshal wrote:
I want to apologize for the huge clusterfuck this game turned out to be, sorry for the 5 or so people who cared, I sincerely hope your next game goes better than this.

Bans will be handed out as soon as flamewheel posts the new ban list. As promised I will be handing them out like candy. Please take all ban discussion to the ban thread.

On October 05 2011 12:27 JoshKirby wrote:


Please elaborate.



It'd be odd, but definitely possible. A couple scenarios:
1) Knowing that he'll be called out for using "clues," zany uses a clue to accuse you, sacrificing himself in order to make one of the mafia members look like a guaranteed townie.
2) zany is a troll player who simply likes causing havoc in the games he plays. The post where he accuses Toadesstern of being mafia could support this.

The wide range of strategies mafia can use is why it's very difficult to win when there's no information from a doctor/detective.