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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 22 2011 16:17 GMT
#1361
On September 23 2011 01:05 Palmar wrote:
possible, but not probable.


If Drazerk and iGrok were talking on irc or talking in realtime then it's possible that it's just the two of them that are mafia.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
September 22 2011 16:26 GMT
#1362
On September 23 2011 00:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 23:47 syllogism wrote:
So predictably igrok is completely worthless at least if we pick the target for him, assuming scum has a roleblocker


yes, that's why he should NOT shoot, and then we hang him tomorrow!


Do you believe that iGrok is malicious third party or mafia? Just curious.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 16:27 GMT
#1363
On September 22 2011 20:25 syllogism wrote:
Sandroba why are you not putting any effort into the game? Is it because you are scum/third party? Why did you flip flop about GGQ without stating your reasons? You wanted to keep the lynch between igrok and jackal and then suddenly wanted igrok to shoot GGQ?


Well who do you think he should shoot within these three? The dead guy? Himself? Actually my opinion is that he should shoot himself.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#1364
On September 23 2011 01:26 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 00:05 Palmar wrote:
On September 22 2011 23:47 syllogism wrote:
So predictably igrok is completely worthless at least if we pick the target for him, assuming scum has a roleblocker


yes, that's why he should NOT shoot, and then we hang him tomorrow!


Do you believe that iGrok is malicious third party or mafia? Just curious.


Mafia.
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 22 2011 16:43 GMT
#1365
On September 23 2011 01:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 01:26 GGQ wrote:
On September 23 2011 00:05 Palmar wrote:
On September 22 2011 23:47 syllogism wrote:
So predictably igrok is completely worthless at least if we pick the target for him, assuming scum has a roleblocker


yes, that's why he should NOT shoot, and then we hang him tomorrow!


Do you believe that iGrok is malicious third party or mafia? Just curious.


Mafia.


If you're talking about me being "maliciously dumb" then radfield but be acting an idiot. Two last minute bandwagons and two mislynches.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 16:48 GMT
#1366
On September 23 2011 00:49 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 00:32 Palmar wrote:
why do you care what I think chaoser?


Because you just called me a dumbass.

So I want to know WHY I'm a dumbass.

Just saying I'm a dumbass doesn't make me understand the situation.

I'm not going to read you calling me a dumbass and go:

"OHHHHH so THAT'S why my thinking was wrong, I'm just a fucking dumbass. I guess I'll try to be less of a dumbass and then I can see what the fuck Palmer is talking about."

So why am I a dumbass palmer?


He's been using OMGUS to dispel anything he feels like contending while never providing reasoning to the contrary, and it's part of the reason I'm sure he's scum.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 16:50 GMT
#1367
On September 23 2011 00:59 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 00:52 Palmar wrote:
I said I don't think you're a dumbass bro.

I think you're actually good enough to understand the situation, but you're just choosing not to because unfortunately you rolled scum again. Actually I know you're one of the best players in this game, so anything silly you do paints you red like the ocean.


Right, and I'm saying you overestimate my abilities. I'm not foolishness and I'm not radfield. They're both WAY better players than I am. I'd say I'm above average at most. The only game I did super well in was the one where I fake claimed DT as Vet and even then that was a crapshoot. I made a bunch of wrong reads in the prot game (really only catching GM and Jackal and the GM one was more based on meta since I had just played a PM game with him where I talked to him the whole game on skype) and aside from that I'm not a scum catching machine (you can look at my long history of games, I only started getting "good" recently.)

I can see that Drazerk and iGrok are connected, clearly. And I can also entertain the thought that they are both mafia, but in that case this whole balrog/medic protect/cleave thing is probably pre-planned in which case all three of them (drazerk, igrok, and syllogism) are mafia.



For the last paragraph. Yeah, me too. Drazerk started to give out medic hints AFTER iGrok was shot by syllo. My opinion is, that Drazerk - iGrok are connected somehow, either Drazerk is town medic who made a pretty bad call, or he's lying, or he's mafia medic (both of the last 2 need to iGrok flip mafia), so it's impossible to tell at this point for sure.

I'd like to add Radfield to this scenario, becouse of this quote from him:

Here's the thing, if iGrok was confirmed Third Party, we would absolutely NOT be lynching him. Thing is, this is a totally bullshit claim, and nothing stacks up in that claim.

One thing is for certain, iGrok is certainly not town as no townie would ever make that claim. If no one is willing to back me on Jackal(or Pyo) then we should bring the hammer down on iGrok.


Either he was lying about knowing the RB thing (cos i really thought his plan was good), or then he just made a bad call. What makes me suspicious is that he himself started the final wagon against Jackal.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 16:53 GMT
#1368
Radfield why were you so sure iGrok actually is 3rd party just before the lynch and pushed it, but not when he claimed? And arn't you sure anymore? Why?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 22 2011 16:54 GMT
#1369
listen to this newbie, he's using at least twice as much brainpower as the rest of you guys.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 16:54 GMT
#1370
* I meant pushed Jackal lynch. Why didn't you push Palmar instead?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 16:59 GMT
#1371
Also i still like to hear these players responses, why was Errandor "lying";

TS
chaoser
supersoft

Becouse he clearly wasn't. If you don't agree with me, please explain to me why he was lying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 17:04 GMT
#1372
On September 23 2011 01:54 Palmar wrote:
listen to this newbie, he's using at least twice as much brainpower as the rest of you guys.


I also would like you to state more precisely why do you think your scumlist is so scummy. Becouse I can't understand it, i'm noob but not stupid. So i need to trust my own judgement, and when i'm clearly inexperienced, i make bad calls based on more experienced players. And i hate myself for that :D
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 22 2011 17:08 GMT
#1373
Oh cool I am not going to die tonight because I am going to be used as a lynch target instead...

I am going to laugh so much when I flip

Also as for the posting restriction... lets just say I had one and now I don't.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 22 2011 17:09 GMT
#1374
That makes sense actually
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 17:11 GMT
#1375
On September 23 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote:
That makes sense actually


What makes sense? Drazerk?

And do you care to answer my question i stated before?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 17:18 GMT
#1376
On September 23 2011 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i still like to hear these players responses, why was Errandor "lying";

TS
chaoser
supersoft

Becouse he clearly wasn't. If you don't agree with me, please explain to me why he was lying.


And i'd like to add Drazerk to that list.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2011 17:19 GMT
#1377
On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


Why do you think syllo as a day vigi has some "extra powers on top"?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#1378
On September 23 2011 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


Why do you think syllo as a day vigi has some "extra powers on top"?


Because I didn't protect him and he managed to survive a hit.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#1379
On September 23 2011 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 03:25 Drazerk wrote:
Right lets kill two birds with one stone shall we?

I am a medic

I protected iGrok and that's how he survived Syllo's cleave.

I got a notification about iGrok getting hit so we can confirm Syllo is a day vigi with some extra powers on top.

Now can we vote for someone more productive?


Why do you think syllo as a day vigi has some "extra powers on top"?


He claimed to survive a hit too, and never did explain how, but acted like he knew. Check his filter.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
September 22 2011 17:22 GMT
#1380
On September 23 2011 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote:
That makes sense actually


What makes sense? Drazerk?

And do you care to answer my question i stated before?

Drazerk does yes

And you are right about sandroba sort of being consistent as jeejee was modkilled (before that he found him scummy, so clearly he would have wanted to lynch/vig him next). Anyway, this still isn't townie sandroba play unless he is just extremely busy. If he was town he would by now be certain that I'm also town and he enjoys playing town with me, which likely would motivate him to post more. Extremely unconvincing reasoning for someone who doesn't know us, I admit.
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