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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 01:01 GMT
#2861
##vote cyber_cheese
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 01:23 GMT
#2862
On October 03 2011 04:04 heist wrote:
I'm Elrond, the Lord of Rivendell. yes I'm the second medic. I protected jcarl first night. I protected Drazerk's ass every subsequent night except for last night where I protected Trancestorm.

Also, Drazerk was shot under my protection. So I know for sure he's not mafia.


Post your paraphrased protect PM. We can see if it matches, in any way, to Drazerk's
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 01:24 GMT
#2863
Also, why am I the only one posting -_-
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 01:33:55
October 03 2011 01:33 GMT
#2864
Ahem I just noticed a mistake in my OP. syllogism died on night 2, not night 3 like it says. This has been rectified.
wat
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 03 2011 01:36 GMT
#2865
cyber and trance both need to get in here -_-

chaoser, what's your thought on this? After not mentioning heist the first three days, greymist makes a case against him and asks multiple people their opinion. That night, greymist gets singled out as a night hit and flips dt. He switches off heist later in the day, so it might just be that he was suspicious of him, rather than getting off a red check or it could be he didn't have the votes and didn't want to claim yet.

On September 26 2011 08:43 GreYMisT wrote:
I Think that Heist has been acting really oddly throughout day1 and day2.

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 02:35 heist wrote:
As a side note, the reason we want at least two majority candidates is it forces everyone to make a choice. If we have just one easy target everyone votes for, we will gain absolutely no information based on the lynch since everyone voted the same. Being forced to choose creates liability and patterns will start to emerge that can be worked with. If the situation is 1 townie and 1 scum on the chopping block, and the mafia try to swing majority votes for the townie, that's a lot of information that we can use.


Remember day1 he was the guy who advocated having 2 leading candidates each day?


Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 19:31 heist wrote:
Gone the entire day and just found out I forgot to place my vote on Navillus. Oh well. I no longer feel like he's scum based on his subsequent responses, just a townie with some bad decisions.

WBG, DrH, and Drazerk are terrible lynches right now. WBG is definitely the easy lynch right now and most likely NOT SCUM. DrH is arguably one of the most active and most town player we have right now. Frankly, the justifications for Drazerk are weak, really really weak.

However without much better alternative, I'm liking Syllogism's plan for now. No more lurking from those that could be such an asset to the town. I will go ahead and double that pressure.

##Vote: Jackal58


He soft Defended DrH day1

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 14:14 heist wrote:
Neutral survivors can be whatever Curu wants esp as it fits with the lore. Honestly, would you make Balrog mafia or neutral? He's not part of the central conflict AT ALL in the story. I'm assuming everyone who has special powers with the ring don't have the ability to obtain it on will. How do you know Sauron has an active ability with the ring? perhaps his main purpose is just to locate it and give to a mafia member who can most use it.


And defends iGrok with a burning passion using only lore, speculation, and WIFOM.

Heist is scum

##Vote Heist


On September 27 2011 03:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 03:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 27 2011 03:09 Archon_Toilet wrote:
Pretty sure heist needs to go.

He called out DrH as a terrible lynch on day 1, defended Drazerk to the death then voted for him, called out iGrok as a terrible lynch, was on the original name train.

Low activity, atrocious voting, defends scum then disappears. Heist needs to go. Vote for heist.


Low activity and atrocious voting? Sounds much like someone I know...
That is the very first time you have mentioned heist all game.


What is your actual opinion on him (Heist) though?


On September 27 2011 13:25 GreYMisT wrote:
What is your opinon on Heist Kitaman?


On September 28 2011 05:45 GreYMisT wrote:
Im going to go ahead and ##Unvote Heist. He has not posted much at all today. While I still think he should be looked at, we have much bigger targets.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 03 2011 01:38 GMT
#2866
cyber, if you're on heist, does that mean you don't think trance is scum still?

trance, who do you prefer, cyber or heist?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 01:59 GMT
#2867
GGQ, what do you think about heist?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 02:00 GMT
#2868
I agree, heist is kinda scummy, i'm going to wait for everyone else to voice their opinions first before taking everything in an deciding.

GGQ, cyber or heist?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 03 2011 02:04 GMT
#2869
Wraith!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 02:05 GMT
#2870
Yeah i know...I wasted my 4k post
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 03 2011 02:46 GMT
#2871
Boss new picture :D
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 03 2011 02:50 GMT
#2872
On October 03 2011 10:38 kitaman27 wrote:
cyber, if you're on heist, does that mean you don't think trance is scum still?

trance, who do you prefer, cyber or heist?


+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2011 11:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 10:51 chaoser wrote:
In that case I'd vote for you


I was aware it lead back to me. I bet there's still scum left around me.
What makes GGQ seem town to you, compared to TranceStorm and Heist?

You seem to think I'm scum, so lets work under the assumption that I am for a minute.
TranceStorm and GGQ were the ones who voted me yesterday.

What seperates the two that makes TranceStorm look like the mafia?
I've been FOS'ing him a lot this game, and he did it back yesterday, was that to distance myself like Radfield and DocH were doing?

It's going to seem strange for me to back down on voting TranceStorm having said that, but I was pushing TranceStorm because he voted both times with Radfield's late wagons, along with ON, Drazerk and Kitaman.
I didn't believe that all four of those people would be town, but with Drazerk and Kitaman still alive, it seems viable that one of them might be the scum that I was accusing Trance of being.

Therefore, the two people I want to look into most at this point are GGQ and Heist.


On October 03 2011 02:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 23:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmmm. Why have Cyber_Cheese and heist moved off from voting for me (and to voting for each other at the moment). Nothing has changed from the previous day to this day so why should they have seemed to change their minds?


The fact Drazerk and Kitaman are alive this late in the game means there is a good chance at least one of them is mafia. They were both on Radfield's late swings like you, and I figured there was another mafia voting with Radfield. You being that other mafia was my reason to push you, but that doesn't seem so logical now they are both alive.

I only believe one of you three to be mafia, and somehow chaoser looks trustworthy, so I think the other two mafia are Heist and GGQ.



On October 03 2011 04:03 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:50 Drazerk wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 02 2011 23:48 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmmm. Why have Cyber_Cheese and heist moved off from voting for me (and to voting for each other at the moment). Nothing has changed from the previous day to this day so why should they have seemed to change their minds?


The fact Drazerk and Kitaman are alive this late in the game means there is a good chance at least one of them is mafia. They were both on Radfield's late swings like you, and I figured there was another mafia voting with Radfield. You being that other mafia was my reason to push you, but that doesn't seem so logical now they are both alive.

I only believe one of you three to be mafia, and somehow chaoser looks trustworthy, so I think the other two mafia are Heist and GGQ.


The fact that I have been saying I was going to protect Kita most nights probably swayed scum into only role blocking Kita. As for myself well I have no idea why I am still alive especially after Curu basically mod confirmed me as a medic.

Of course they could of chosen the kills purely because they are trolling at this stage or simply are not following the game.


Even if you and Kita are town and I was right about Trance all along, there is likely two other mafia, and Chaoser seems less scum than GGQ and Heist at this point, with the hit you saved him from.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 03 2011 02:52 GMT
#2873
If syllo wasn't the one protecting Drazerk then Heist's story sounds legit, so I'm changing that just in case vote to GGQ.
##Unvote
##Vote GGQ
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 03:35 GMT
#2874
Ok, so here's what everyone should know. Drazerk said he got hit on Day 4. He also got motivation and used it on Night 3 to protect prplhz and me. This is confirmed by Curu. He later protected me from a hit on Night 4.

This means that syllo must have given him motivation on Night 2. But Syllo died on Day 3. That makes it impossible for him to protect Drazerk for day 4 since he wasn't around on Night 3 to do it. That means the only way Drazerk could have survived a hit was if there was another medic. This confirms heist as the other medic.

At the same time, it explains why mafia didn't shoot Drazerk since they knew he was being protected but not by who.

That leaves:

27. heist
22. Cyber_Cheese
5. kitaman27
30. TranceStorm
6. GGQ

Mafia would obviously all pile onto heist since I just said I'm willing to lynch him. There's a 3/5 chance to hit mafia here, and 3/4 if you think kita is town tracker.

I feel however, Cyber_Cheese is 100% mafia.

On wherebugsgo, I get the distinct impression he's just a townie who wanted to have the ring and decided acting as Smeagol and demanding the ring until people got bored of it was better than trying to defend himself actively. I'm willing to bet there is no posting restriction, in fact I think it was explicitly stated somewhere that there wasn't.
That said, I'd be comfortable with a lynch on him on the off-chance he is telling the truth about being third party, purely because that seems to make him a safer bet than most others.


He's ok with lynching third-party.

He then says iGrok is suspicious but is "giving hi a break".

IGrok seems a little bit suspicious, but since I'm giving archon_toilet a break I guess I'll be doing the same here.


He then goes on to defend iGrok when iGrok claims third-party.

Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.


but he wants to lynch me over iGrok if I'm third-party.

[quote]LOL WHAT
I collapse in my bed with a few hours to go, and out of nowhere someone who hadn't even been considered previously was lynched.
Bad call on Errandor, I really didn't see that happening, and I guess I'm not the only one[quote]

He also pulls exactly what people have said about mafia leaving their vote on prp and then going WHAT STUPID TOWNIES when Errandor gets lynched.

##vote: Cyber_cheese
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 03:46 GMT
#2875
EDIT:

22. Cyber_Cheese
5. kitaman27
30. TranceStorm
6. GGQ

Mafia would obviously all pile onto heist since I just said I'm willing to lynch him. There's a 3/4 chance to hit mafia here, and 3/3 if you think kita is town tracker.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 03:47 GMT
#2876
Or, if you want to be safe cause Cyber is voting for GGQ and GGQ is voting for Cyber, we can go with a TranceStorm vote since he'll be mafia for sure.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
October 03 2011 03:49 GMT
#2877
Why do people believe there are still 3 mafia left?

And guys I am confirmed town. I don't know why I'm even up for debate...

Kita answer me this. In your best guess, why haven't mafia RBed Drazerk and killed you?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 03:50 GMT
#2878
On October 03 2011 12:49 heist wrote:
Why do people believe there are still 3 mafia left?

And guys I am confirmed town. I don't know why I'm even up for debate...

Kita answer me this. In your best guess, why haven't mafia RBed Drazerk and killed you?


Because if there's not 3 mafia then town already lost. Are you saying there's 2 mafia left and somehow they have 2 KP? Not likely. Are you saying there's 4 mafia left? We'd have lost the game.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
October 03 2011 03:51 GMT
#2879
I don't understand why you asked that question.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
October 03 2011 03:55 GMT
#2880
Why would 3 mafia have 2 KP? Doesn't it round down? But anyways, irrelevant. I'll be keeping my vote on cyber_cheese.
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