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xtfftc's post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261732¤tpage=13#250 Full of contradictions. He is pressing Palmar for calling GGQ a bad lynch, then goes and calls GGQ a bad lynch in the very next paragraph of the same post. Also the hedging of his vote by calling TAA possible "bad Town." | ||
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If you think TAA will flip Town why not try to push someone you feel is a better lynch or actually stop his lynch instead of pre-emptively trying to assign blame? | ||
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On September 09 2011 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote: I say we keep it between TAA and iGrok. Either is an acceptable lynch to me but I'm not sold on GGQ. I'll switch off iGrok if we require lynching assistance To "Curu is scum because he started the votes on TAA" before the lynch has even gone through. If you think he's an acceptable lynch clearly you think there's a decent chance he will flip scum. And yet you're acting sure now that he will flip Town. What gives? | ||
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I actually agree with Zona's post, most of the votes on TAA's wagon are pretty sheepish. Reading through TAA's past games though, the ones where he's been scum he never has a strong opinion, which fits with his play here, whereas as Town in AA he hooks onto Pyo as a scumread and pushes him hard over and over, and in XLIII he was sure enough of his day 1 read on JeeJee to fakeclaim Vig in spectacularly derp fashion. | ||
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It took me 3 games to come to that realization myself after watching Town self destruct in Personality, hope you'll learn that lesson faster  . | ||
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If anyone else has questions shoot for the stars. | ||
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I'd like to hear more from sandroba who is playing far below his Town standards thus far. | ||
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@Palmar It was in postgame discussion for Personality Mafia, I was complaining about every Town Vig being neutered in dying if they shot Town, Ace said he was thinking about using that mechanic in his upcoming game. | ||
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On September 10 2011 12:52 Mig wrote: I voted TAA for the same reasons everyone else did. Inconsistent opinions, contradicting himself and his play was far far below what I know he can play as town. Look at his play in WaW2 (scum) and compare it to his town play in RTM. He can be quite good and do a lot of scum hunting but this game he obviously was putting 0 effort in. But looking back on it it was a dumb vote. I should have put more weight into looking at the people who were on his bandwagon. Curu, Sandroba, palmar, iGrok are the 4 people I am most suspicious of and all of them jumped on TAA very quickly. Curu and palmar both went out of their way to defend iGrok yesterday. Not only did they defend him saying they thought he was town but Curu then began the TAA bandwagon. His play is extremely similar to XLIV where we were both mafia. I was in danger of being lynched early so curu started up counter lynches against weak targets to save me. He thought TAA was a good lynch but then turned around and says I am scummy for starting what he thought was a valid wagon. I can understand where WBG is coming from from that angle because he thought TAA was a bad lynch all along, but this just looks like posting with an agenda from Mig. He's also a good enough player to know that me and Palmar aren't herpderp stupid enough to go blatantly defend iGrok from pretty much nothing. I did not see anything legitimately scummy from iGrok's posting besides some herpderp language (once again, herpderp language posting is what I used to secure multiple mislynches in XLIV). If all three of us were scum then the moment iGrok flips me and Palmar would be screwed. | ||
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Of three of you sandroba has put in the least effort with the scummiest vote. Mig is posting but the actual content is much worse than what should be expected from him. Palmar I can't tell one way or the other right now. Outside of those three would be GGQ. sinani is being attacked as the easy target but what motivation would he have for purposely avoiding the thread instead of just jumping on the easy TAA wagon if he was scum? Nisani/sinani always look like the scummiest players in the game no matter what alignment they are, attacking them for derp posting rather than actual Mafia objective pushing is like attacking Kenpachi for lurking. Again this is something I'm pretty sure an objectively posting Mig would notice. sinani if you're Town step the hell up too. Going after small-fry for derp posting is a bad habit I had in my first few games and each time Mig could see that I was on the wrong track (supersoft in AA, Sevyrn in XLIII). And come on Mig, you know better than that. When I think someone is scum I do the same drown-out-arguments-turn-everything-you-say-into-something-scummy thing WBG is doing now. I realized that the tunnely overaggressive crap is anti Town and dropped it. What points from WBG do you think are accurate? Point them out for me. | ||
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People who jumped onto TAA after me with poor reasoning: Jackal58, no mention of iGrok, says that GGQ isn't a good vote. iGrok, quick jump onto TAA, cites a reason as TAA attacked someone for defending himself, doesn't mention sandroba for attacking iGrok himself for pretty much the same reason. sandroba, doesn't think GGQ is a good lynch, wants iGrok, quick jump onto TAA. xtfftc, attacks Palmar for saying he likes TAA as a lynch better than GGQ, then turns around and says the exact same thing that he likes TAA as a lynch better than GGQ or iGrok. Basically attacks Palmar for something he showed in his post that he agreed with. bumatlarge, likes both iGrok and GGQ lynches, then switches gears into TAA and liking Mig/Palmar instead. Of these, I think sandroba looks the worst. sandroba because of meta reasons mostly; it isn't like him to only lightly push iGrok then switch completely. In XLIII he was scum and when his teammate came under fire day 1 he pushed lightly/FoSed him but with no real weight behind it. He's also been a lot more useless compared to his usual Town play. Finally Mig's contributions and reasoning have been a lot worse than what I would expect from him. He wagons onto WBG's attack on me for starting the TAA vote when he admits during the night that he himself thought TAA was a valid vote. His pushes on Palmar because of Palmar defending iGrok are really weird considering he just finished a game where Palmar did the exact same thing and his attack on sinani for derping around is very unlike him, especially when there's more solid material in the thread to work with. The situation is almost exactly like supersoft in AA where supersoft lied about being active in PMs when he hadn't PMed anyone at all, except I was the one foaming at the mouth wanting to lynch supersoft for his lie and Mig was the one telling me that that alone did not show super was Mafia. | ||
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On September 10 2011 23:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Did you read my post on the last page? When I reread the thread I didn't find anything that Mig said that scummy. I don't see how his behavior aligns with a mafia agenda...yet. The difference between your suspicion on me and Mig's suspicion on me was how you two viewed the TAA wagons. You actually pointed out that the votes were piling too fast and made some effort to stop the wagon, Mig did not. In fact Mig himself admitted he thought TAA was a good vote but then turned around and followed you in calling me scummy for starting the TAA vote. He's bandwagoning and calling me scum for voting on a lynch that he agreed with me on. | ||
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Let's kill Mig. ##Vote Mig | ||
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