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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On August 31 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote: I'm getting red vibe off forumite. If you read his post history it's all soft FoS's that he doesn't really follow through on. Are you saying that you don´t like the way I play, or that I´m playing like a scum in this game? Because I´ve been accused of being scum because of weak FoS many times. What do people think about Navilius? And no, it´s not a FoS, I just don´t have a good read on him. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257133&user=46485 The Erandorr filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257133&user=117613 If I had to choose which was which I'd call Eiii scum and Erandorr 3rd party. But there's really not a lot to go on with either. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 01 2011 00:32 Forumite wrote: Are you saying that you don´t like the way I play, or that I´m playing like a scum in this game? Because I´ve been accused of being scum because of weak FoS many times. What do people think about Navilius? And no, it´s not a FoS, I just don´t have a good read on him. Navillus started strong and has also gone into what appears to be lurk mode. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Sevryn
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On August 31 2011 09:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Wait, what? So, you think Jackal is scum, most likely EA, but because other people don't agree (before you've even posted an actual analysis), you just drop it? The point of analysis is to convince people to agree with you, and show them your reasoning for your reads. Even if you made an analysis, and came to the conclusion that Jackal is actually town, that's still useful for town. Dropping your suspicion so easily because people don't initially agree with your read, and without even trying to convince them, just makes it seem like you thought your case was weak to begin with, meaning you were just looking to start a bandwagon on someone. ##Vote: Chaos13 This is the only recent post(last couple of days) made by wiggles that does not mention the EA This can mean pretty much anything but I would like to ask wiggles to focus more on scum hunting. however he does raise a good point on chaos I'll look at him soon. but first he lurkers | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On August 31 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote: Player List 1. Mr. Wiggles 2. Cyber_Cheese 3. Sevryn 4. TheFerryman 5. chaos13 6. 7. Navillus 8. Eiii 9. 10. Jackal58 11. Forumite 12. Erandorr 13. tnkted These are my reads. So, before we start getting off track here, ##vote: sevryn like we should have been doing earlier. I'm getting red vibe off forumite. If you read his post history it's all soft FoS's that he doesn't really follow through on. I don't think chaos13 is scum, I just think he doesn't read very closely and gets too excited about his 'scumtells' that don't actually mean anything. That being said, Chaos, you aren't reacting properly to pressure at all. I think you're town, but if you keep acting batshit insane whenever people don't agree with you, I'm changing my vote to follow wiggles. EVERY VOTE SEVRYN NAO Okay so you make a post and declaring me the scummiest person. and saying "like we should have been doing earlier" but there is no case on me and you sure as hell didnt make one here. infact you just make two lines that are relevant to me and then ask everyone to vote for me without trying to convince anyone. this is the shittiest start to a bandwagon ever. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On August 28 2011 03:08 tnkted wrote: actually the C in Scum doesn't follow a period, but otherwise the message says 'im scum u mad' Reading Jee Jee's posts reveals he's replied to/agreed with/been focused on sevryn faaaar more than anyone else, so perhaps sevryn is our lynch tomorrow. Also town needs to start talking asap. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On September 01 2011 02:06 Forumite wrote: I think tnkted was refering to his post below, made just after JeeJee´s scumslip was found. ahhh thanks. Well that just goes back to my previous point about any connection between jeejee and me was all him and not me. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On August 30 2011 07:58 Jackal58 wrote: Show me your reasoning. And whoever the Psych is feel free to visit me. You'll be safe and sane in the morning. Stay away from Erandorr and Eiii though. Eiii doesn't normally lurk. I have no idea who Erandorr is though or how he plays. In 3, 2, 1........ HEEY .. Too late? (this is me catching up with the thread) I will actually participate today (promise!) | ||
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Erandorr
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On September 01 2011 03:00 Erandorr wrote: I should probably add xplain that I underestimated playing in 2 mafia games at once(see palmar) Same happening to me I'll try to give some thoughts soon, I'm catching up/looking through posts now. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On August 31 2011 23:29 chaos13 wrote: Well, your response seemed very odd to me, at least. You say yourself, "Ask me questions and decide if my responses are still scummy.", so I ask, "What are your reasoning for Jackal being the EA?". You respond to this, by promising me and the rest of town a future analysis of Jackal.I was frustrated yesterday. I've since gotten over it. If you really want to vote for me, tell me what mafia objectives I have been pushing this game. What does a mafioso have to gain by making such an outspoken accusation against Jackal, then backing off, and then continuing again? You can see from my games as scum that I like to lurk and lay low. Real analysis won't come from me for a few days, and then it will only be a result of becoming a major town suspect for not contributing. Show me how all my posts represent a mafia agenda. Pressure me today. Ask me questions and decide if my responses are still scummy. Address my analysis on Jackal and see what you think of it. Cyber_Cheese, where are you? You voted for me and left. Not very town-like. Then, shortly thereafter, you go back on your suspicions, and say, "General consensus seems to be that I'm wasting time. So be it. Jackal is no longer a suspect. I'll start looking elsewhere." This sticks out like a sore thumb. Until recently, you had an absolute conviction that Jackal was the EA, even to the point of asking the Psychologist to not visit him, because you believed he would die if he visited Jackal. So, I ask you for reasons about why you think he's EA, and you say you'll tell me later. Then, later, instead of telling me you reasoning, you just give up on your case. Now, this wouldn't be too unusual, if for example, you had said something along the lines of, "I looked back through Jackal's posts, and after re-reading, I believe him to be town", but instead you entirely gave up your case, because the rest of town wasn't supporting you without reasons. This looks scummy to me, because it seems like you mostly wanted to attack Jackal for finding out JeeJee, but when asked for other reasons for why he's the EA, you quickly go back on your accusations, using the lame excuse of "General consensus seems to be that I'm wasting time.". It shouldn't matter to a townie if he's being controversial, or going against majority opinion when he thinks someone's scum. It's his job to convince the rest of town that that person is scum, not just roll over and give up. By laying the blame on the rest of town not supporting you, you escape responsibility for not actually following through and posting an analysis. In fact, I doubt you would have actually posted the Jackal analysis if I hadn't pressured you to do so. This seems reinforced by the fact that you said you were writing an analysis on Jackal and that it should be done within an hour or two, but then after giving up, you don't actually post anything until 12 hours later, implying that you had no analysis started in the first place, and weren't planning on writing one either. So, after you actually post the analysis, you say the following Let me preface this by saying I am no longer at all sure that Jackal is EA. There's evidence for it, but when the whole town starts questioning you there comes a point where you begin to wonder if you're sniffing down the wrong trail. So, what is it? Is Jackal the EA because of the evidence for it? Or do you think he's not the EA because people don't agree with you? Evidence is objective, and the town's opinion doesn't influence it. Again you go back on what you were saying, shrugging off any responsibility you might have had if a mislynch happens, but still being able to post an analysis to satisfy the people asking you for one.So, do you believe Jackal is the EA or not? I also want your opinion, not what you think because of what town thinks. On September 01 2011 02:18 Forumite wrote: Do you mean bandwagoning? We don't know if he was bussing or not, because we don't know who his team mates are. Or maybe you do?I´ve been doing voting analysis, and one thing looks weird, JeeJee, confirmed Scum, didn´t buss at all, he put his vote on Cyber_Cheese, and left it there even after the others abandoned trying to lynch Cyber. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
Due to Host/Co-Host also being human beings we may be missing for the end of day 3. We are doing our best to resolve this. I'm letting you know there's a possibility that today will be extended free of charge. I will keep you up to date as I know more. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 01 2011 02:42 Jackal58 wrote: My suspicion is that JeeJee was trying to lynch Cyber, but when people dropped off, then either he didn´t want to do anything in case he made himself a target, or he didn´t want to tip the lynch on one of the others. Cyber a scum buddy? On September 01 2011 05:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Do you mean bandwagoning? We don't know if he was bussing or not, because we don't know who his team mates are. Or maybe you do? Well, yes, a bandwagon. He jumped on when the bandwagon was going on against Cyber, 4 players voted on Cyber in a row, among them JeeJee, but once they dropped off, he didn´t join the votetrains on tnkted and Palmar, and later Wiggles. Palmar has flipped, and he was never a prime target for the lynch, but JeeJee could have gotten you or tnkted lynched, if he had wanted to, you were both 1 vote away from a lynch. You and tnkted acted the same way, wasting your votes on players that would never get lynched. tnkted voted on Palmar and Cyber, you voted on Eiii and Palmar. That makes me think JeeJee, Mr. Wiggles and tnkted are the scumteam. This post of JeeJee doesn´t help. (emphasis mine) + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2011 03:23 JeeJee wrote: surely you're not serious. look hard enough and i'm sure you can find something like this in anyone's posts if they post enough. major fos on both tnkted and wiggles for just jumping on this without thinking it's simply a coincidence. FoS tnkted ##Vote Mr. Wiggles | ||
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