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On September 02 2011 08:22 sandroba wrote: @wbg nah, the rb mechanic + no flips will generate a huge amount of misinformation if we do that.
Palmar what is your reasoning on varpulis? Care to point out why he is scummy, I only see people pushing this wagon nitpicking on every single post he makes. Show me some actual evidence.
I tried doing a little reaserch on jcarl and couldn't find a single game he is scum. Care to point me to one if it actually exists JC? The reason I went through all this trouble is because in his previous post, despite not seeing any point to my sugestion, he still behaves nicely and obliges. From what I've read from the previous games he played as town his ideas regarding what is scummy and regarding lurkers are pretty much the same, but I'd like to see a game he played as scum to draw further conclusions.
Aww that means a lot that you cared that much! ;P
As far as I can remember, I don't think I've had a game where I've been scum (aside from IRC mafia).
The reason I went through all this trouble is because in his previous post, despite not seeing any point to my sugestion, he still behaves nicely and obliges.
I am capable of being objective. I can understand multiple sides of an issue, despite my own bias. I can admit when I'm wrong.
That being said, the more I think about this focus 3 targets thing, the more uneasy I am about it. You're right that the no flip will seriously hurt us. Also, the pious could hurt or help us. Nobody has any idea who the pious is, including scum. So the scum can't roleblock the double vote reliably.
Focusing on just two will prevent the scum from roleblocking and doing a switch on us, AND it will keep the pious vote from messing with us.
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On September 02 2011 08:40 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 22:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 01 2011 17:54 Kenpachi wrote:ok sorry guys. i had to sleep early to wake up early but i never slept so i never woke up. Its the morning and im tired but who cares (ps. happy birthday ON, wasnt able to tell you on LoL) Im a townie and im sad because im not an awesome role that is the priest or the necromancer in an epic setup like this. le sigh my gut feeling is telling me that if varp is scum, his team doesnt consist of me I would also like a summary of these following players: Sknowman Wherebugsgo jcarlsoniv i dont know who these guys are and i would like to know if they are fellow lurkers or not.
I want to say varpulis is scummy but i have seen too many useless introductory posts that i dont know anymore. Aside from that i want to bring your attention to this: On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote: /confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now. The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. On September 01 2011 12:36 redFF wrote: wait why are you fosing me? Red was pretty senseless in posting this. Instead of atleast justifying or defending himself, he asks what does not need to be asked. fos redff You want a summary of 3 players after literally 2 pages of play? You can't take 10 minutes to ready through to find what we posted, but you have time to find what sinani posts and accuse Red of being scum.What Red posted is not senseless at all. Here Red is, pressuring Varp at the very start of the game, giving analysis (correct or not), getting reactions. I think it's definitely warranted for Red to ask why he's being FoSd. Tunneling works. It puts pressure on an individual, and obtains reactions from the other individuals. It exposes those who are grouping together. So far, I see: VarpulisKenpachisinanigrouped through defenses.
oh of course, silly me. totally convinced now...
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On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote: bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games
I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake.
But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful.
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On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote: bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three?
I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me.
#vote sinani206
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On September 02 2011 12:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm thinking it might be beneficial to get the holy priests (if we have one/more) to resurrect immediately before the mafia have a chance to capitalize. But...I'm not really sure because there'll be two dead thanks to the lynches and then probably at least two thanks to the mafia kills.
And what if we have the holy priest rez immediately, and we ended up lynching scum? Then we have living scum still, and that hurts us.
The only problem is that we need to get information from the coroner eventually. That'll probably be the hardest part, IMO, especially if the coroner dies someday and we don't know it, he'll miss a check.
The coroner basically is the most important role (that we know of) in this game right now.
You're right, and I've been thinking about this for a while. With lynches being no-flip, it's going to be very difficult for the town to get any information at all. Whichever player(s) is/are the coroner(s) needs to be very careful.
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On September 02 2011 12:20 wherebugsgo wrote: The only comforting thing to me is that the mafia don't know who they've killed anymore than we do.
Unless, of course, there's some sort of mafia role checker. Which would suck balls.
Well they certainly know they're hitting townies. Whether or not their blue or green they may not know, but they still know a hell of a lot more than we do or will.
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On September 02 2011 12:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 12:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 12:20 wherebugsgo wrote: The only comforting thing to me is that the mafia don't know who they've killed anymore than we do.
Unless, of course, there's some sort of mafia role checker. Which would suck balls. Well they certainly know they're hitting townies. Whether or not their blue or green they may not know, but they still know a hell of a lot more than we do or will. Right, I meant more as in, if they want to deny us whatever information we ARE getting, they have no ability to aim directly for a coroner or whatever without actually having a role detection role themselves. I'm pretty sure iGrok said that mafia can choose to hit mafia too, so that might fuck us with respect to who we should revive, as well. I'd say, if there's a scummy player around who we plan on lynching, but he dies due to a mafia hit, he should get checked anyway and then if he gets revived we should examine him carefully. Mafia can take advantage of the fact that they know alignments by killing their own players and tricking us into reviving them and keeping them around.
Yes, iGrok did say mafia can kill their own. And I was thinking the exact thing you said.
But even if scum can't hit our blues reliably, how will the town get information? I'm afraid all the information is going to sit with our coroner. This will certainly be tricky.
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On September 02 2011 21:09 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 11:57 bumatlarge wrote:On September 02 2011 11:51 wherebugsgo wrote:Nightless. All actions must be submitted by the appointed time. Double Lynch Every Day - At the end of the day, the 2 highest vote-getters will be lynched. Priests Resurrect, Necromancers Reanimate. Resurrected Players will live until they are killed again. Zombies die on the 3rd Day after Reanimation. So a Zombie reanimated on Day 2 will die at the start of Day 5. Players who are returned to life may not be returned to life in the future. No players are told how a character is returned to life. Mafia KP is N/2 (rounded up). Zombies count towards KP. This should answer your question, bum, about whether or not players can be repeatedly revived (no, once they die twice they're gone) Okay, so let's go over a couple things... We should only use bum's "plan" when we absolutely HAVE to. As in, in an endgame situation where we can win in 1-2 days by lynching the lynchproof guy and some suspect, then resurrecting the lynchproof, having the coroner check the suspect, and having the lynchproof shoot another suspect after resurrection but before he gets shot by the mafia. Second, I underlined what's really interesting to me. If mafia KP is n/2, and zombies count toward KP, does that mean a townie who is resurrected by a necromancer will count toward mafia KP? i.e. if there are 4 mafia members and 1 town who is resurrected as a zombie, is mafia KP 3? Well, I disagree in utilizing it that late, as an unlynchable confirms himself, forces two bullets which won't be hitting a coroner or a priest. And the zombie thing hmmm, I revoke what I previously said. With two kills, it's better to keep what we want done to who, since a necro can easily zombify the other and start racking up their KP. I'm assuming we won't be told if a player is zombie or not as well. What wat A daykiller is also a vet?
No, daykiller is unlynchable.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2011 19:12 Palmar wrote: @Bumatlarge: I already figured everything out.
@OriginalName: That's surprisingly bad, you should know Kenpachi always claims town.
So, I think it's unanimous that Varpulis should hang today. Everything from his apathetic "nice tunnel" defense to trying to deflect the lynch onto a random lurker screams that he should be lynched. He insists we should be scumhunting yet has not provided any scumhunting of his own, aside from "Kenpachi lurks, let's lynch".
sinani206 is a weird one, thing is even when he's town he is always up for lynching because he just posts incredibly scummy. He's also a favourite candidate for scum to try to lynch, but it's very hard to make the distinction of scum and well... townies who just think he's scummy. I'd rather not lynch sinani206 today.
redFF is posting in a manner that seems very fluent and unrestricted. This is unusual for him, although he's been known to make one-liners as scum too. Problem is that I feel like he's not making careful one-liners, but extremely dangerous one-liners. I think lynching redFF would be a really bad idea today.
chaos13 is another person that feels really open in his posting. He's slowly settling into what I'd consider his town meta of asking questions and being completely unable to find scum unless everyone is holding hands and being happy. I think he'd be one of the worst lynches today.
I think Wherebugsgo is town.
jcarlsonv also looks like he's town, I was sceptical at first, but all his posting looks like someone who is just earnestly trying to contribute to the discussion.
I'd not be cool with lynching Sandroba right now, no reason to lynch one of our best town players, especially when he seems to be putting effort into reading past games to form his opinions, I need to keep an eye on him though, because if he starts being wrong I should get him lynched.
Bumatlarge:
I don't like this post, I don't like it at all:
##Unvote varpulis
I still find it likely that varpulis can be scum (redff has made good points), but in the event that he is not, I would look heavily into these people, in order of scuminess IMO.
This is so weird, if you think it's likely he is scum, why do you feel necessary to coddle up to redFF's arguments, yet try to find some other lurkers, your list almost smells of "Let's make a list of people who are scummy and see which one picks off". Which is basically fishing for town opinion.
Thing is, it's ok not thinking Varpulis is scum, like, there's nothing wrong with being wrong, but the way you present this idea is... not something I like. I think you could possibly be a good lynch candidate today.
Ace and Jackal are just derps at this point, Jackal kindly provided us with a useless post about double lynches, and Ace is roleplaying. They've provided nothing that can be used to determine their alignment.. I expect a contribution from them or we get our daykiller guy to gun one of them down.
OriginalName is someone I'd strongly consider for scumderp, because he's just playing uncharacteristically bad. He's the person of the three I feel least strongly about though, if we can I'd lynch Varp and Bum.
And finally Drazerk and Sknowman, along with that Kenpachi person. Nothing to read, nothing to analyse. With Jackal and Ace that means there are in my opinion 5 complete null-tells in the game, and some of them are bound to be town. Those of you who are town really need to start posting so we can determine your alignment.
So without further ado, I think Kenpachi stupid and bad lynch. I think the race should be between:
Bumatlarge Varpulis OriginalName
So, i'm asking you all to take a bit of a leap of faith here, consider switching your votes to one of these guys, because any vote outside the three is going to be a wasted vote.
Ideally, we will have at least 5-6 votes on Bumatlarge and Varpulis each, but if someone feels one of my reads is blatantly wrong, I present a third option.
I'm going to switch my vote to Bumatlarge to get the ball rolling there. Anyone voting outside of those three should do one of the following:
a) Move your vote to one of the three.
b) Explain why the lynch is a bad lynch.
##Unvote Varpulis ##Vote Bumatlarge
@Palmar: The only person on your list I don't feel get too much of a scum read on right now is ON. However, my personal scummiest read is on sinani, so I'm going to leave my vote on him for now. I want to see how this day unfolds more to see if I get other scummy reads.
Person to watch out for: Drazerk
He's made two posts this game:
On September 01 2011 22:00 Drazerk wrote: Thought this game was going to start tonight >.>
only scanned through the thread so far but I have FoS on Varp / 206
Ill post a bit more later but those are my main suspects for now.
On September 02 2011 18:48 Drazerk wrote: For all the people voting kenpachi, I really don't know why we are dealing with him on day 1
And your wondering why he claims green? He has done it every single game he has played.
so no I don't think there is enough reason to vote for ken but I do believe 206 is scum, people are claiming kenpachi is useless but 206 has been a lot worse so far.
#Vote: sinani206
Both have been pretty contentless. At this point I'm not sure how to read him, but I'm definitely watching him.
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On September 03 2011 02:28 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 19:12 Palmar wrote: Bumatlarge:
I don't like this post, I don't like it at all:
##Unvote varpulis
I still find it likely that varpulis can be scum (redff has made good points), but in the event that he is not, I would look heavily into these people, in order of scuminess IMO.
This is so weird, if you think it's likely he is scum, why do you feel necessary to coddle up to redFF's arguments, yet try to find some other lurkers, your list almost smells of "Let's make a list of people who are scummy and see which one picks off". Which is basically fishing for town opinion.
Thing is, it's ok not thinking Varpulis is scum, like, there's nothing wrong with being wrong, but the way you present this idea is... not something I like. I think you could possibly be a good lynch candidate today.
I don't think it smells like that at all. I voted varpulis, same time as redff, then a bunch of people jumped on it, including you, with very little reason. In fact you have very little reason voting me here as well, which is extraordinarily unlike the palmar I know. This has to be the most passive thing I have ever seen you done. If you vote me for reason, you don't go ahead and do the exact same thing yourself. See bolded sentence. And sandroba is just as bad, sayng I haven't been pro-town, when he clearly has not read through my unlynchable idea by thinking the coroner uses his power by day. Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 21:00 Sknowman wrote: I don't agree with focusing on the mechanics/roles so much. Yes, it is good to understand them. But mechanic/role analysis is such an easy way for scum to get solid town points, make big posts and derail conversation. That's why we discuss and figure everything out now day 1, where there is little to derail, because day 1 conversations are hard to move. I feel this game should garner the same discussion a PYP game would. The High Priest should use his power everydayI'll explain why. But first we need to ask more green questions I think. There is a lot of stuff we could miss just by ignorance. iGrok, when two revivers (priest or necro) target the same person, is there a precedence given? Also, can you add all questions answered to the last of the OP posts? If it's not too much trouble. I'm fairly certain it will revive according to when the PM is sent, but it will have to be confirmed. IF A HIGH PRIEST CAN RESURRECT A PERSON RATHER THEN THEM BEING A ZOMBIE THEN THAT IS GOOD. Denying zombies will be a key job for the high priest, as a necromancer will not just revive dead teammates but also any townies he can whenever he can. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Day 1 is where the chances are higher to do this, 50%. I'll gladly take criticism or argue the point. Day1 is usually a mislynch and a double lynch on day 1 is unlikely to be successful. We will undoubtedly lynch a townie, you can't argue that. So resurrect the one you think is town as fast as you can, and hopefully you stop the zombification. Even if they target different people, the zombie does a have a time limit and the resurrected person does not. Most likely mafia will revive the less pro-town of the two, and high priest the more pro-town. Ok now you can yell at me for speculating. There is a lot of WIFOM in this topic as to who would revive who, so please refrain from using that as a counter-point. Also Ace please post I know you figured some stuff out too, probably more then I did.
From the OP:
If two players try to bring the same player back to life, whichever message I receive earlier will correlate to how the player is brought back to life (reanimated/resurrected).
The Coroner Ability returns information privately to the coroner.
Resurrected players retain their powers, as do Reanimated players
Daywalkers may be killed by night kills. They do not get "reloaded" if returned to life after using their power.
I agree with the High Priest resurrecting someone everyday. When the Necromancer reanimates a zombie, they count as scum KP. So, if they reanimate a townperson, that will make their KP stronger, and we could very quickly get screwed. The Reanimations die in 3 days, while the Resurrections last til they're killed again.
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On September 03 2011 03:27 wherebugsgo wrote: I'll be honest, all the current lynch targets suck.
If we have only 6 hours left in the day, we have a problem. We need to concentrate our votes very soon. If we're making the first day 72 hours (which I would prefer) we'll get some more information and we can make a better educated guess at who we should be lynching, as time isn't so crucial. On that note:
how much time is left in the day? if we're all in support of making the first say 72 hours I say we do it. It'll give us 24 hours more to deduce and think clearly about this.
I'm going to assume this won't happen, seeing as probably 90% of the players posted during Day 1. But what will actually happen if we delay it another 24 hours? I'm not sure we're going to learn much. That gives scum more time to sway votes while town still has no information at all.
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On September 03 2011 03:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 03:27 wherebugsgo wrote: I'll be honest, all the current lynch targets suck.
If we have only 6 hours left in the day, we have a problem. We need to concentrate our votes very soon. If we're making the first day 72 hours (which I would prefer) we'll get some more information and we can make a better educated guess at who we should be lynching, as time isn't so crucial. On that note:
how much time is left in the day? if we're all in support of making the first say 72 hours I say we do it. It'll give us 24 hours more to deduce and think clearly about this. I'm going to assume this won't happen, seeing as probably 90% of the players posted during Day 1. But what will actually happen if we delay it another 24 hours? I'm not sure we're going to learn much. That gives scum more time to sway votes while town still has no information at all.
EBWOP: I mean, the vast majority of players posted in the first 24 hours of the day, while we have gotten posts from everyone Day 1. I see no reason iGrok would actually delay it.
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On September 03 2011 04:00 OriginalName wrote: If a Necromancer and a High Preist res the same target which one takes priority?
sigh...I really wish people would read the thread...
Quoted this half a page up, but apparently I need to quote it for everyone.
If two players try to bring the same player back to life, whichever message I receive earlier will correlate to how the player is brought back to life (reanimated/resurrected).
The Coroner Ability returns information privately to the coroner.
Resurrected players retain their powers, as do Reanimated players
Daywalkers may be killed by night kills. They do not get "reloaded" if returned to life after using their power.
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On September 03 2011 04:24 Varpulis wrote: Palmar 1 -chaos13 -redFF
Varpulis 1 -bumatlarge -redFF -Palmar -Kenpachi
Kenpachi 2 -bumatlarge -OriginalName
redFF 0 -sinani206
bumatlarge 2 -Palmar -sinani206
jcarlsoniv 1 -Sknowman
Chaos13 1 -Jackal58
I count 8 votes, which means almost half the town hasn't voted yet.
This is not accurate. I know at least myself and Draz have voted for sinani.
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On September 03 2011 04:36 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 04:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 03 2011 04:24 Varpulis wrote: Palmar 1 -chaos13 -redFF
Varpulis 1 -bumatlarge -redFF -Palmar -Kenpachi
Kenpachi 2 -bumatlarge -OriginalName
redFF 0 -sinani206
bumatlarge 2 -Palmar -sinani206
jcarlsoniv 1 -Sknowman
Chaos13 1 -Jackal58
I count 8 votes, which means almost half the town hasn't voted yet. This is not accurate. I know at least myself and Draz have voted for sinani. did you ad "##" to the beginning of your vote? because if not i didn't find it. I did a search for "##" with the thread set to all.
Ah, sorry, I only did one #. I'll make sure to do two from now on. Interestingly, Draz also only did one #...
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On September 03 2011 05:03 OriginalName wrote:NOTE THE BOLDED/ITALICS/UNDERLINED SECTION OF THAT -_-
What would you like us to note about that?
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On September 03 2011 05:41 Kenpachi wrote: lol this might be a stupid question but can the coroner check more than 1 corpse a day?
Coroner Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).
I was about to get real mad at people not reading the thread again, but that description seems rather ambiguous. I'm going to assume it's once per day, but clarification would be nice.
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On September 03 2011 06:32 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 06:08 sandroba wrote: Igrok, can we please get a vote count?
We have to consolidate the votes now, so mafia can't lynch whoever they want. There will be no vote count. I will tell you who has voted for who.
Jackal58 =====chaos13 RedFF=======Varpulis Sknowman====jcarlsoniv Kenpachi=====Varpulis wherebugsgo==OriginalName sinani206=====bumatlarge Drazerk=======sinani206 jcarlsoniv=====sinani206 Varpulis======sinani206 Ace==========chaos13 Original Name==Kenpachi Palmar========bumatlarge chaos13=======Palmar bumatlarge====Kenpachi Sandroba======bumatlarge
Ok, well from this we can still gather a table. This is (I'm sure) not 100% accurate because of pious and/or any other hidden voting mechanics.
chaos13 (2) Jackal58 Ace
Varpulis (2) RedFF Kenpachi
jcarlsoniv (1) Sknowman
OriginalName (1) wherebugsgo
bumatlarge (3) sinani206 Palmar Sandroba
sinani206 (3) Drazerk jcarlsoniv Varpulis
Kenpachi (2) OriginalName bumatlarge
Palmar (1) chaos13
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On September 03 2011 06:52 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 04:10 Varpulis wrote:Alright, It looks like trying to convince you guys not to lynch me is a lost cause (admittedly i did a pretty poor job to begin with, but that's beside the point) I'm going to filter everybody and give my brief opinions on them. They won't be taken seriously now, i know, but hopefully they'll have more weight when a coroner checks me, which should happen eventually. The people saying that we shouldn't revive lynches are right. If scum want a lynch back, let them do it themselves. Zombies are temporary, so unless they're as scummy as scummy can be, lynching them night not be necessary. If they're increasing kp, by all means lynch lynch lynch, but if you believe mafia to have, for example, 3 players left, a zombie won't actually increase their kp, so you might as well just wait for them to die. High priest should be reviving night kills, because those are far more likely to be town. Without further ado, my reads: Jackal58 + Show Spoiler +leaning green, but there's not much to go on. he's playing his usual style as far as i can tell, and the reasoning behind his vote is relatively sound. RedFF + Show Spoiler +He's wrong, but he's not mafia. His suspicion and application of pressure and moderate tunneling are both pro town and effective. Sknowman + Show Spoiler +lurky, but his one post is good and informative. Not sure, leaning town. Kenpachi + Show Spoiler +no fucking clue, as usual. Wherebugsgo + Show Spoiler +scummy. Most of his posts are talking about mechanics and plans, aka "hey look i'm contributing without actually taking a stance or giving reads." Then he jumps on ace, who's as much lynch bait as i am at this point. sinani206 + Show Spoiler +also scummy. Soft defends me and then votes redFF with the explanation "he's scummy." When that doesn't work he jumps on the bumatlarge wagon again with the explanation "he's scummy." No explanation, nothing. Keep a close eye on this guy. Drazerk + Show Spoiler +lurky. Only 2 posts in the game, votes sinani, which i agree with. needs to post more. jcarlsoniv + Show Spoiler +i've got a town read on him, based on his attitude, activity, and the content of his posts. I don't see the scum motives in his posting, but this is more of a gut read than anything else Ace + Show Spoiler +had some early posts that weren't too bad, then started trolling with his journal. Null read, would like to see him actually contribute. A player who trolls even when asked to stop is a liability. OriginalName + Show Spoiler +Doesn't like meta lynching, votes Kenpachi on meta (???). contradiction, scummy. Needs to post more Palmar + Show Spoiler +Strong town. considers multiple points of view, and is able to step out of tunnel vision and make objective decisions. Filter him if you need any more convincing Chaos13 + Show Spoiler +wishy washy as hell. Not taking risks, votes palmar because Palmar was mean to him (aka didn't listen to his atmosphere post) Leaning scum bumatlarge + Show Spoiler +votes me because i made a "useless post" when there was nothing to discuss or post about. Unvotes with literally the same clause as redff (I still think he's scum, but let's lynch somebody else) Makes little sense to me. votes kenpachi on meta. I disagree with his posts about the high priest always reviving lynches. tl;dr the following people are scummy: WBG sinani206 Chaos13 bumatlarge Out of that pool, I'd like to lynch either sinani or bum. I'll look at the vote counts (I think i'll have to look through manually, but whatever) then make my decision with a proper accusation. THIS GUY IS SO MAFIA ITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS HOLY SHIT WHY IS HE NOT LEADING VOTES BY A COLOSSAL MARGIN.
It might have something to do with the fact that your main argument for why he's scum is "ZOMG HES SO SCUM". That tends not to be very effective.
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On September 03 2011 07:23 sandroba wrote: Ace/jackal/ON/chaos/jacarl can you please switch vote to someone more meaningful? If things stay like they are as of now mafia pretty much gets to choose who they lynch.
@Ace after all that talk about how bad it is for people to get lynched with 3 votes, won't you do anything to stop that from happening? like pushing your candidate or voting on one of the leading ones?
Why is that? You sound like you have information that the rest of us don't have. Maybe the scum list, perhaps...
I'm going out to dinner. I'm not changing my vote. I'm getting scummy reads off of sinani, and my vote is staying there. I'll be reading and keeping up on my phone.
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On September 03 2011 08:54 Sknowman wrote: For all of those calling me lucky and useless, I'm in China so my timezone is completely different to all of you. I sleep when you wake.
I am still sticking with my vote on jcarlwateverthefuckhisnameis. The lynches all seem pretty weak to me.
It's fine that you suspect me, whatever. But it's clear I won't be lynched today. Sandobra is right that you should put your vote where it would be actually useful, instead of increasing scum control.
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