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Your defense of Sevryn is extremely suspect. Your reasons for defending him are he pointed out a stealth vote and he came back to defend himself? Really did you read his defense? He came back posted 4 lines in which he said A) he sheeped palmar to pressure vote someone he didn't find scummy and B) he took his vote off because he was afraid people would lynch him for it. What type of player is more likely to vote for someone they think is innocent and then immediately backtrack once people call them out because they don't want to be lynched, town or mafia? Yet somehow that defense was good enough to alleviate your suspicions...... Sevryn is still by far the best lynch today. | ||
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On August 20 2011 15:42 Foolishness wrote: It's more about opportunity cost at this point. If Sevryn is mafia we can expect him to be inactive the rest of today, tonight, and tomorrow if we leave him alone. If he's town he will be active and posting his own thoughts. Half way through tomorrow it should be immediately clear what his role is. You on the other hand I'm not so sure of. Ah so it's just that easy if sevryn lurks he is mafia but if he is active he is town. Why ignore all the scummy things he has done already? Instead of addressing any of his actions you are instead just defending him with well we can tell whether he is town or not if we let him live awhile. Why does that reasoning not apply to everyone? And you aren't sure of what exactly? | ||
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On August 21 2011 01:41 Palmar wrote: Where the fuck is Mig, are you scum this game too? I went to bed broski. After reading back through everything I actually think chaoser is scummier than sevryn. He spent the start of the day making bland fluff posts giving generic advice to town and followed it up with doing absolutely no scum hunting. For comparison look at his posts day1 and day2 of mafia 39 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&user=41788. In 39 chaoser absolutely dominated as town single handedly taking out half the scum team within the first 2 days. In that game he didn't make any fluff posts giving generic advice, he spent all his time actively pressuring people and doing real scum hunting. And now look at his play and his activity this game. It is the polar opposite. I still think sevryn is scummy but his play is at least similar to his town meta, chaoser is playing completely out of character for his town play and is contributing nothing when he is a very strong player. Vote: Chaoser If people don't switch I will go back to sevryn before the deadline. | ||
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I am going to stick with sevryn. | ||
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On August 21 2011 10:31 Vain wrote: Ok, i think i'm gonna vote on Rayzorflash. I just don't believe a scum would vote that fast. No, wait scrap that.Sevryn voted as 3rd for DropBear. you can say what you want about his defence but he only started with the "pressure vote" after people asked what he was doing and that counts to me more than anything. I have no idea what you are saying with this post. | ||
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On August 21 2011 11:16 Jackal58 wrote: Sorry Sevryn Pyo is scum Why is pyo scum? I still think chaoser is scum. | ||
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So instead of providing any real analysis this game you started off with A) writing fluff posts B) voted for me basically just saying yea I agree with foolish then disappeared before the lynch and now C) you are twisting my words around to make me appear scummy when it should be obvious how different my argument was from the one foolish made. #Vote: chaoser | ||
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You say it was obvious sevryn was green but after reading rayzor's post about being willing to take the blame if sevryn flipped green, sevryn seemed a lot more likely to be mafia. I agree if rayzor is actually red I look very bad but I put my vote on who I thought was most likely to be scum. | ||
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But is no one else seeing the extremely poor reasoning behind some of the people jumping on my bandwagon? Jackal - gives no reason whatsoever for voting me dropbear - First you say you are ok with hiro because he tried to lead the lynch off of sevryn. Wtf I was trying to get people to vote chaoser before the rayzor bandwagon even really got started. And you even agreed with me while I was trying to make it happen. You then proceed to vote for me without giving a single reason. Varp - Did you even read my post about meta arguments or did you just intentionally ignore the meaning of it? I am not against meta arguments. I used meta arguments to help get you lynched in the last game we played together. I use meta pretty much every game I play. My entire point was foolishness' meta argument was trash and didn't actually show I was scum at all. Curu - just a pure meta reason Nobody has defended me at all this game. Has my play really been so scummy this game that if I were mafia not a single one of my team members would be willing to try and save me? If am lynched because of my poor play it's my own fault but people should take a look at everything surrounding my bandwagon. Anyway it doesn't appear I have any shot at convincing people to vote chaoser so I will write up a case on who I feel is the next scummiest in the next few minutes. | ||
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On August 23 2011 09:24 Jackal58 wrote: Sure I did. It was a coin flip between you and Vain. It was your late vote on Sevryn to hammer home a lynch when it was almost shifted to Rayzor. Explain please. Ok look at everything surrounding sevryn's lynch A) I tried to shift the lynch onto chaoser before anyone was really trying to save sevryn at all. B) I didn't need to hammer home a lynch on sevryn. We needed 16 votes for majority, Rayzor only got up to 10 votes he was never in any real danger of being lynched. I voted sevryn because I had thought he was scummy all day and if you look at rayzor's post about taking the blame if sevryn was green it would be an incredibly ballsy thing for a 1st time mafia player to say. I voted for which one I thought was most likely to be scum. C) And the main point is if I am scum and I knew sevryn was green why was I going through this effort? Why did I post giving my reason for sticking with him over rayzor? Rayzor didn't need saving I could have just sat back silently and avoided drawing attention to myself. People are convicting me for getting sevryn lynched when none of you even know if rayzor is red. And at least I was around to give my opinion on what I thought was the best play. | ||
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1) His play at the start of the game. Dropbear starts the game off with fluff posts concerning no lynches and his mayor thing. While palmar is attacking him and generating actual discussion that can be used to find scum, db is deflecting the discussion onto unrelated subjects. And as soon as soon as palmar calls him out on this db tries to turn it around and tries to actually take credit for getting discussion started. When really he has done 0 scum hunting and all his posts are bland ways to look like you are contributing. 2) Contradictions. Look at some of these quotes by db. On August 21 2011 07:32 DropBear wrote: I WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH HIRO PROTAGONIST - Voting sevryn just because. No reasoning given. On August 21 2011 07:49 DropBear wrote: - I think the case against Mig is at this point non-existent Ok so he wants to lynch hiro for not giving reasons for his sevryn vote, he also thinks there is no case against me. Then this is his post where he votes me on day2. On August 23 2011 04:25 DropBear wrote: Ok so I'm ok with hiro now, he tried to lead the lynch off sevryn who flipped town so he gets brownies, at least temporarily. Do show me where! If you don't trust him, why not lynch now? ##Vote Mig Gives absolutely no reasons for voting me even though he had said earlier there was no case against me huh? What changed your mind dropbear? He also states he is fine with hiro now for trying to deflect the sevryn lynch when I had done the exact same thing. 3) Activity. Don't look at the amount of posts DB has overall but look at when he is active. He was extremely active right at the start of day 1 posting where he has a bunch of fluff and tried to claim town cred for it. However what about after that? He pretty much disappears then shows up right before the end of day 1 makes 2 short posts attacking hiro and chaoser and disappears. So he introduced 2 new candidates right at the end of the day BUT didn't stick around to actually push for their lynches. He knew sevryn was going to flip green and didn't want to get any backlash from it so instead he posted a couple short cases against people not in danger of being lynched and then vanished to let the town argue amongst themselves. And what about day2? We are 24 hours in and db has one post. This is classic mafia activity. Active right at the start of the game where he is trying to buy town cred for himself but once we get deeper in and real analysis starts he is completely MIA. So seriously look at DB's posts and ask yourself what his motivations are. Has he put any effort into scum hunting? Does he care if town makes the correct decisions? No. He comes in posts a ton at the start to buy credit but afterwards he basically sits out of the sevryn lynch, doesn't push for the people he actually thinks are scummy to be lynched at all and then on day2 he votes for me because it is a chance to jump on a bandwagon to get a strong town player lynched even though he had said earlier there was no case against me. #Vote Dropbear | ||
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On August 23 2011 10:27 wherebugsgo wrote: Last question for Mig: other than chaoser, who do you find scummy? What do you think of xtfftc, hiro, nard? Once we get this I think I'll be ready to put together another post summing my ideas together. I think db/chaoser are both hella scummy. hiro - has contributed nothing but seems much more active than when I played with him in AA and he was scum. His posts also feel more bold to me, he was a lot more reserved and skittish before. So leaning town. nard - scummy lurker, has a couple of posts where he just writes one line about a bunch of different subjects and contributes nothing. He only has like 4 posts though and he is very new but I would lean scum towards him. xtfftc - initial posts I thought were extremely scummy. His first vote of palmar also was extremely suspect and wishy washy. He has a ton of posts where he doesn't seems to want to take a stand and several times he dodges questions people ask him. I would lynch him next if no one agreed with db/chaoser. | ||
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On August 23 2011 10:46 Foolishness wrote: Mig, may I take your accusation of DropBear to me that you think xtfftc is townie? hm no why? Is there a connection I have missed between them? | ||
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My defense is the truth you can choose not to believe me but that's how it is. Also didn't you initially vote for me partially because my first attack against sevryn I said he was lol scum? What was that too much confidence? And you are calling me out for blatant contradictions wtf? My post arguing for and against meta is not a contradiction there is good meta arguments and bad and your's was terrible. Look at the quotes from DB that is BLATANT contradictions. You are completely ignoring much stronger cases to tunnel me. Foolishness' entire case against me is A) a very poor meta argument about me not having enough confidence and B) he was shot last night lol. I urge people to read my case against dropbear with an open mind. The case against him is 10000x stronger. Virtually everything db has done falls perfectly in line with scum play. | ||
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On August 23 2011 12:34 Foolishness wrote: And where's the contradiction in DB's posts? The ones you quoted are nearly ~48 hours apart. Is a man not allowed to change his mind? He saw what chaoser and I posted against you at the beginning of the day and said the same thing we (chaoser and I did) "wow that's pretty good, must be mafia". How about the fact he voted for hiro because he didn't give any reasons behind his vote. Then voted me without listing a single reason and he had said there was no case against me. Are you really arguing that isn't a contradiction. I mean come on. | ||
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My argument against you was that your entire style of play was different (more fluff posts not actually writing up analysis or doing scum hunting). | ||
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Myself/chaoser/palmar/BB all had votes and suspicions placed on them. You were one of the only vets who wasn't suspected. I think you probably take a shot almost every night unless the mafia were afraid of you being protected. And I understand that you are just using being shot as a small part of why I am mafia but the fact that you are using it at all shows how weak your case against me is because realistically there is virtually no connection there. | ||
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So if I take that out completely I am left with just your meta arguments. Which basically consist of me not posting with enough confidence, except for my first attack on sevryn which was too confident? Right now you seem dead set on tunneling me with a much weaker case than the one against dropbear just because you are suspicious of me. If palmar/chaoser had posted against db I think you would be a lot more open to it. | ||
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And did you see a single person defend me before I defended myself? There is no way my play has been so scummy or your case so strong that if I am mafia that not even 1 would post defending me. | ||
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On August 23 2011 18:16 Palmar wrote: @Mig How did you not see the fact that sevryn was going to flip town on day 1? That's very unusual for you. Meh it didn't seem so obvious to me. All of his actions from early on and the middle of the day were scummy and they were different than his play in the last 2 games I had played with him where he was generally much more passive early on as town. His defense late seemed more townie but even that I thought could still have been plausible scum play trying to last ditch save himself. What do you think about my case against Dropbear? | ||
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VE - Seems his normal townie self out spoken and nonsensical. Completely different than his scum play in say RTM. Curu - Seemed pretty normal curu until I defended myself. He voted for me but then once I appeared he does a complete 180 and started strongly defending me? Meh don't really get it. Possibly trying to buddy with me or take credit once I flip. That combined with his complete lack of any real analysis this game I would say leaning scummy. BB - His initial vote on jeejee and the fact he never actually pushed for the lynch was scummy combined with it was weird how he spent so much time arguing with you but I never saw him saw him say you were scum. But I disagreed with the other part of your analysis where you concluded his logic auto made him mafia. There is a reason 50% of games start with people arguing about whether they should lynch lurkers or not. A lot of townies genuinely think that is the correct day1 play and I don't know BB well enough to know if that is what he actually believes. His more recent posts are giant walls of text that are ridiculously annoying to read which I don't really feel one way or another about. I would say likely scum. Something like BB/chaoser/db/chaos13 or curu or barundar/2 new players would make sense to me from a balance perspective. But I don't feel as strongly as you do about him. I am much more certain of DB. Barundar yea I could tell you have been skimming considering you listed me getting pegged and disappearing as a reason to vote for me. When I have probably posted more times than anyone today and have been discussing with foolish most of the day. | ||
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The fact that there are insane dts makes it 100x better for mafia to fake claim. When the lynch goes bad they can just shrug their shoulders and be like ah oops must be insane/paranoid. But I really don't see the motivation behind fake claiming right now unless he thought he was going to be lynched but he only had 1 vote on him. | ||
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Also 2 hours before the end of day1 he mentioned he was most suspicious of hiro and chaoser and suggested lynching them. Why did he not check either of those 2? Look at all the posts he just listed in his analysis of super, all of those occurred before his post attacking hiro/chaoser. If he thought super was scummy that early why did he say hiro/chaoser were the 2 he thought were the most scummy? The choice of his check came out of nowhere. | ||
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On August 24 2011 00:02 Palmar wrote: Da-Muffinman just stealthvoted, he's gonna be slided to red on my chart. Huh is that guy even in this game? | ||
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I haven't lied about anything this game. I didn't put a good effort in day 1 but people should read my day 2 posts and really ask themselves if any of my motivations or play was scummy. I mean palmar wtf you say I just went after an easy target in db? Huh? There wasn't a single vote on db before me. And you/chaoser/foolish/etc all agreed my case against him was really good. Ok it looks like it probably ended up being incorrect but instead of being results oriented look at my analysis, look at my thinking and see if I was playing well, see if my thoughts were town oriented. Even though it looks like I was wrong I 100% stand behind everything I said about db. My analysis was good and I was putting in real effort to find scum. If that isn't good enough there is nothing else I can do for the town. Everyone should look at the reasons people are voting me. Every single person is basically sheeping or using meta reasons. Can anyone tell me anything scummy I did day2 or anything scummy at all about my db case? I put my best effort in yesterday and if you want to lynch me just for being wrong there isn't really anything I can do. | ||
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Along with that I agree with palmar's points. Has chaos actually put any effort into the game at all? Has he actually pushed any lynches? Look at his scum play in the previous TL normal game that ran. He is much more willing to lurk and not provide any opinions on the main lynch candidates. | ||
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On August 24 2011 09:22 xtfftc wrote: Do you have anything more to add to this? I am not going to claim to know for sure whether hiro is town or not. But everytime I have played with him he has been a lot more passive/quiet. And when he is scum he seems more afraid to give his opinion. That leads me to believe he is more likely town than someone like chaos who has shown poor logic and hasn't actually put any effort into the game. | ||
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On August 24 2011 09:31 Kurumi wrote: You dont find hiro scummy at all ? There's nothing what felt wrong about his posting ? He was caught on posting with scum agenda , three people including You are trying hard to deflect his lynch , everyone of You seem to pull a meta argument and add nothing from this game itself . No I agree my defense of hiro is not strong at all. I am not trying to claim I know he is town and I have said myself he hasn't contributed much this game. But I feel stronger about chaos being scum. That is my honest opinion and that is why I would prefer if he was lynched. | ||
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Yea anyone should be able to see hiro's claim makes no sense considering literally 15 minutes before it he said he should die instead of me. Why would someone with a blue role ever say that? | ||
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Eh either way I guess you might be telling the truth dunno. | ||
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Chaos did you even read my posts from yesterday? Did you see my case against DB? Every person who has voted me foolish/chaoser/you has completely ignored everything I did day2. Tell me how I wasn't helpful yesterday? I actively scum hunted and I provided GOOD analysis. Were my points against DB inaccurate? Was I stretching the truth to try and make him appear scummy? Actually look at my case and ask yourself whether that was a scum or townie driven analysis. And let me ask you something at the end of day2 why did I try and get people to switch to you with palmar/hiro/jackal instead of just trying to get hiro lynched to save myself? I thought hiro was much more likely to be town and you were a lot more likely to be scum. Ask yourself why would I risk my death last night like that if I were mafia? We were virtually tied in votes when we tried to do the switch to you. My play wasn't good day 1 I am good enough to recognize and admit that but I played to the best of my abilities on day2. I haven't seen a single thing pointed out that was scummy from my day2 play. I posted like 50 times if I am scum surely there is something in there right? I mean will anyone actually make a case against me that involves what I have done this game? So please someone tell me how my day2 play was scummy in anyway. Show me where I twisted my analysis around to best suit me or what mafia objectives I was pushing. Anyone with common sense should be able to read everything I did day2 and see I had town's best interests in mind and I put legitimate effort into scum hunting and providing good analysis. Now look at chaos13. Look at how horrible his logic has been this game. Chaos is a very decent player yet look at his targets this game palmar/foolish/jackal/myself. Look how terrible his reasoning for his initial palmar vote was. When we tried to switch to him last night he immediately omgusd and called me/jackal/palmar scum. Jackal/palmar/hiro all pushed for chaos and all have died and flipped green. And has chaos actually seriously pushed for any of his targets this game? So seriously ask yourself is chaos bad enough that he would legitimately think all the people he has targeted were scum? If so why has he put such little effort into actually getting them lynched? Or is he actively trying to discredit the only people providing real analysis. #Vote chaos13 Also wtf chaoser way to not discuss anything I have done this game whatsoever. The only reason you vote for me is because of a retarded "contradiction" that didn't really exist. You completely ignore my day2 play. You have provided absolutely nothing this game besides tunneling me. Am I really the only person to see what bs this is? | ||
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The first 4 people who voted for xtfftc day2 were supersoft/hiro (green)/wherebugsgo/VE. Which one of them is mafia foolish? You KNOW that mafia were trying to swing the lynch away from me instead of defending me apparently. So tell me why is your other target BB the 5th person to vote for me. What about the others who did it before him? Your trap was a complete and total failure, you know why? Because I am town. All of your assumptions about me have been completely wrong. Your case against me is basically like some retarded kid trying to jam the square shaped block into the circle hole. You are tunneled in on me so hard that you just twist whatever random information you receive into me being scummy. | ||
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And of the 4 people you listed who didn't give their opinion on me. The only person who was on the start of the xtffc bandwagon was hiro who fucking flipped green! Where exactly are the mafia trying to divert the lynch off of me?!?! I mean am I fucking going crazy here or what? Your trap is the most retarded thing I have ever seen and you use it as proof that I am scum? And chaos pops in to add that it guarantees I am scum? I am honestly tilted by this. Look at my play and tell me how I am scummy. Instead of using 5000 random bits of information that have absolutely nothing to do with me to try and get me lynched. | ||
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Does no one have any common sense whatsoever? | ||
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My point had nothing to do with BB's alignment. My point was that there is NO connection between me and BB or ANYONE else. No one tried to divert the lynch away from me that is bullshit. Do you not see the holes in foolishness' plan where he links me to someone he thinks is scummy to make me appear even scummier? Why is he linking me just to BB and not to these other people. | ||
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Foolish tried to argue that mafia are the ones who diverted the lynch from me to xtfft. You just said you think the first 4 people who voted for him were all town! How do you not see the flaws in the plan then???? Who exactly was diverting the lynch that is what I want to know. | ||
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So my argument then is who tried to save me by diverting the lynch?!? Who? Nobody fucking did. He is seeing connections where there are none. Nobody tried to defend me and nobody tried to push the lynch off of me because I am town. Chaos13 is also scum. | ||
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Ok let me take a different approach WBG do you agree that on day2 mafia tried to divert the lynch off of me onto xtffc. If so how did they do it and who did it? You and foolish are randomly taking BBs vote and connecting it to me. I am saying look at all the other votes on xtffc, why is BBs the only one that connects to me? If mafia were really trying to divert the lynch then who else did it? If you don't think any of the first 4 people who voted xtffc were scum then how can you possibly think mafia tried to divert the lynch away from me. And what suspicious remark did I make about him? What are you even talking about? | ||
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But that being said I still think chaos13 is a better lynch. I agree he seems slightly more aggressive this game but most of that aggression only came after palmar/jackal had called him out. Before that he was pretty inactive, he would just pop in write a post then disappear. He has barely commented on any of the main lynches that have gone on. And normally chaos is a very logical player. But look at how wrong all of his reasoning has been this game. And I mean would town chaos really freak out and immediately omgus jackal/palmar/myself for voting him? It seemed like a panicked overreaction when normally as town chaos is very level headed. If that weren't enough look at palmar's very good analysis of him here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174¤tpage=66#1311 One last thing. Why did jackal die last night? Was anyone else getting blue vibes from him? I wasn't. Had he been especially active or provided any strong analysis? No. So why was he shot instead of someone like Curu or you barundar? On August 24 2011 08:52 Jackal58 wrote: Actually fuck it. I was saving this for the end of the night phase but Chaos has not called me scummy this game. The only other times he has done this is because he was on the scum team. I know it sounds lame but he's so damn consistent at it it's funny. I have been watching to see if he chose one of the three main targets over the others but his votes are off in the toolies. Ya I'll lynch Chaos. But I do know he is at work.  On August 25 2011 08:29 Jackal58 wrote: Hi iGrok Pyo Palmar RayzorFlash nard chaos13 Barundar BrownBear One is a townie but I don't know which. Jackal was convinced chaos was scum and 100% would have followed along with palmar's plan to lynch chaos today. Pretty good motivation to kill someone. I am hunting you down chaos! | ||
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I mean you are saying I wasted mafia kp instead of hitting a target who was likely blue or helping do a lot of analysis for town. I killed the guy who thought I was town and wanted to lynch the same person as me. Seems likely. And no did you see the long analysis I wrote up about db earlier in the day. Before all the roleclaiming shit. Read that analysis and tell me if I am actively looking for scum or just trying to make townies look bad. You are twisting everything I have done this game to make me appear scummy. I posted my analysis of DB because I was scum hunting not trying to shift attention away from myself. Most of your arguments are Mig is a good player look at all these tricky things hes doing to fool us! And you are thinking that way because in your mind you already think I am scum. If you actually looked at my posts with an open mind it's incredibly obvious that I am town. Also btw just lol at coaching razor. I have played 2 games as mafia ever and I got lynched in both of them, sick coach I would be. | ||
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Do you think mafia tried to divert the day2 lynch or not. If so how did they do and who did it. | ||
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This was over 24 hours into day1. So according to you over the entire first half of the day the mafia's only effort to save me was these 2 votes? Mafia didn't bother to defend me whatsoever and that was their only effort to divert the bandwagon away from me? You/foolish are incredibly biased. Can you really not see what is right in front of your face? Nobody tried to save me. You are finding connections where there are none. The fact that you even answered yes and no shows that really you have absolutely nothing here. Foolish has said repeatedly the scum team is very unlikely to let one of their team members just die. So I want to know where was the effort? After looking back through day2 does anyone really think an effort was made to save me by anyone? You guys are taking a couple random votes of whomever you think is scummy and deciding that must mean they were trying to save me without any logic behind your conclusions. | ||
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Mig
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Although I'm rather upset that Palmar was town and I was reading scum on him, I'm glad that mafia targetted him rather than someone else Possible scum slip if there is a scum vigilante? Kurumi claimed the palmar kill. 4 people died last night why would you think mafia shot palmar WBG? | ||
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And you haven't responded to my case against you at all. You didn't respond to palmar's case either. | ||
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And are you criticizing me for not going into depth on my analysis? Have you contributed a single original thought against me? You haven't provided a single example for why I am scummy. You haven't explained how foolish proved my scumminess at all. I mean at the very least WBG wrote up a case against me. You just completely bandwagon voted me. Yet you claim to be pushing pretty hard for me today just lol. You haven't put in an ounce of effort this entire game. | ||
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You say I haven't put effort into scum hunting. Really? Read my case against DB and compare it to anything you written this entire game. Btw thanks for once again providing 0 examples of my scummy play this game and not explaining how foolishness' plan proved I am scum.You used it as one of your main points in casting your vote for me. Would be great if you could actually explain it. Or did you just blindly sheep onto foolish? All you have done is prove what little effort you have actually put into the game. | ||
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Mig
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I am a tracker Undead Hunter - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Udit the Nightstalker. You are well known for being the only man alive to have followed a nightwalker at night and lived to tell the tale. The battle you had with it in the deep underground lair of Uzurki is still recounted by the legend keepers of the inquisition. Your thirst for greater challenges has brought you to Liquidia . You challenge yourself every night by following a liquidian , and seeing who they visit, you win when all the cultists are dead, decapitated and with a stake through their heart for good measure. Last night I tracked chaos13 to jackal. So unless he is a watcher/dt/noisy neighbor he is guaranteed red. I bread crumbed this several times with my earlier posts today. Which is why I specifically mentioned why chaos would have the motivation to kill jackal in my posts against him. On August 25 2011 14:26 Mig wrote: People should really look hard at chaos. And look at the fact that every person who called him out has died and flipped green. On August 25 2011 17:14 Mig wrote: One last thing. Why did jackal die last night? Was anyone else getting blue vibes from him? I wasn't. Had he been especially active or provided any strong analysis? No. So why was he shot instead of someone like Curu or you barundar? On August 25 2011 17:14 Mig wrote: I am hunting you down chaos! So lynch chaos. If he flips red/noisy neighbor I am pretty close to a confirmed tracker. If I am lying and he flips green just vig me tonight. | ||
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Super instead of lynching me for information. Look at everything I have done. Look at everything chaos has done and determine who is scum. If you think I planned out this gambit from last night killing jackal then breadcrumbing just so I could fake claim to kill chaos then go ahead and lynch me. | ||
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I am glad you claimed VT, the only possible way you are not red now is if you are a noisy neighbor. But considering 2 of them have already died that seems pretty unlikely. I have given my defense if the town has any questions for me I will answer them. But either way if I die today you will die after. | ||
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Vain Wherebugsgo Lucidity Chaoser Besides them BB and maybe pyo/nard would most likely round out the scum team. If I had to list an exact team for what is most likely I would say. BB Chaoser Vain Lucid Chaos pyo | ||
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And yea curu mvp never any suspicion on him at all | ||
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