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On August 27 2011 09:56 Vain wrote: Fuuuuuuuuuuu, i almost forgot this thing. yeah, Mig needs to be lynched and then BB
i hope i'm right now:\ scummiest line in history of mafia
Vote: Mig His vote didn't matter at all, yet he's worried about being right with his vote. Right-o. Scum always seem to throw in one of those "i hope i'm right" posts. You'd think they'd know to resist it by now.
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On August 27 2011 19:54 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 13:26 iGrok wrote: @WBG: You still think I'm mafia? After I started the vote for Mig, shot down attempts to split votes between Mig and BB, and... well I haven't told you why Kurumi is scum yet. I've got to think about when to release that, I'm not sure if it'd be better far in advance or right before daypost. If you were trying to save your skin as a townie by only releasing info 1 minute before deadline I think you've screwed it up. You've painted a huge target on your back by promising to prove that Kurumi is scum, so the timing of your information doesn't matter anymore I think. If you're town you already killed yourself by implying that you're blue. Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 17:34 supersoft wrote: nard and lucidity are extremly suspicious for either not reading the thread or - what I believe - trying to peel votes of Mig to get a nolynch. (ofc lucidity switched later on and nard promised to be there to switch if necessary)
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further similarities amongst these people: Noone of them voted RayzorFlash at day1; Noone of them voted either mig or xtfftc at day2.
thoughts on BB he's probably scum, too. my statement at the end of the day was supposed to end the discussion and make sure, mig dies. I was extremely aftraid, that our doubts lead us to something stupid :D (right......) Could you explain why you say I haven't read the thread? Or how I was pushing for a no lynch? Also, I couldn't vote for any of those candidates because I wasn't there. Stop using my early afk'ness as a reason to push motives that don't exist. Also, I'm down with a RayzorFlash --> scumatlarge (or the other way around) lynch. If iGrok's information on Kurumi turns out to be good then I believe supersoft is almost certainly scum as well. I'll post my reasoning later.
On August 27 2011 08:49 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 08:38 chaoser wrote:On August 27 2011 08:31 Lucidity wrote: Can anyone tell me why Mig is a better lynch than BB? It might be too late to switch now, but you guys seem to think that Mig is a better lynch regardless of time constraints.
(Sorry for the double post of one liners) Go read the posts against him earlier in the day, then go read my first post against him and a few of my followups. Finally read some of foolishness' posts against him. There's tons of stuff out there. A quick summary of why Mig > BB would be great thanks.
lol
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I'm getting really tired of your responses supersoft. It's either a "lol" or a "you didn't read the thread" or "you're a joke" etc. This doesn't answer my questions. I don't ask things randomly, I want to see the reasoning behind your mistakes.
I'll assume that you think I didn't read the thread, because I thought BB was a better lynch candidate? Here's the situation as I saw it: Mig and BB were both considered the best scum candidates by town and they were pretty much equally scummy. Mig then claimed blue. In this scenario I'd think the safer lynch would be BB. No one else agreed with me except (insert name). I couldn't see why people still thought Mig was the better lynch so I asked repeatedly. But no one in this town ever answers any fucking thing properly.
If you think I was trying to force a no lynch by suggesting a swap to BB 7 hours before deadline then your logic is seriously messed up.
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okay wait, I just realized, when I filtered you, that we had this conversation already last night. As I see, you agree with the rayzorflashlynch tomorrow am I right? Let's see who dies tonight and what rayzor flips tomorrow okay? You're like the number 5-6 on my scumlist, reason for that is purely your votingbehaviour. You may very well be unluckily ended up on the wrong wagons like 3 times in a row. Let's just lynch RayzorFlash. After that, we see we have to discuss who's next. my number 2 and 3 are still nard and xtfftc.
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Good shit.
I'd like to hear from Rayzor/Nard/Vain/bumatlarge. IMO one of these should be the lynch tomorrow.
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If there are any Town in that group, please come out and defend yourself. We need to get it right tomorrow, we can get rid of a Mafia KP with a correct lynch.
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I think I've thoroughly defended myself and BB's actions. Foolishness said himself that BB was mostly guilty through connections, which I find incredibly faulty, and a majority of his analysis was based on BB's lack of original opinions and reasoning for what he did. I don't believe that was true at all, and I especially felt BB's xttc analysis was very much his own and I saw multiple points that I did not see posted by people foolishness said he copied.
Why I am still under heavy consideration is beyond me. I'll address the suspects listed one by one so you can have my opinion, and you can't blame me for restating because I've barely read the thread! jk
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Foolishness
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On August 28 2011 01:20 bumatlarge wrote: I think I've thoroughly defended myself and BB's actions. Foolishness said himself that BB was mostly guilty through connections, which I find incredibly faulty, and a majority of his analysis was based on BB's lack of original opinions and reasoning for what he did. I don't believe that was true at all, and I especially felt BB's xttc analysis was very much his own and I saw multiple points that I did not see posted by people foolishness said he copied.
Why I am still under heavy consideration is beyond me. I'll address the suspects listed one by one so you can have my opinion, and you can't blame me for restating because I've barely read the thread! jk What do you think of the following 3 people then?
1) nard 2) Lucidity 3) Trotske/iGrok
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Daypost in 10 hours right?
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Nard
I think his activity fell off a cliff at some point, but there are some interesting tidbits. Early on, I don't see anything in his posting that reads scum, until the point where he goes for Hiro and explains fairly clearly why and defends Mig. It seems like an honest town thing, but then when the Mig bandwagon got going the second day, he slunk his way around while voting for me. He's probably scum, because when people don't offer more to be analysed, it's probably because they don't want to be. I'd stand behind a nard lynch.
Lucidity
He seems to be the opposite of nard, being more active later and not active at all early. First lynch he floated unto sevryn without a problem, second lynch he went on to hiro and called Mig and Palmar scum buddies, but when the day 3 lynch and Mig steps up to the plate he conveniently votes me and ignores the Mig wagon. Scummier then nard.
Trotske/iGrok
Trotske seems very townie up until he gets replaced. He seemed content on sevryn but was very open to changing his vote and keeping his eyes open like a good person should. iGork seems very clear-headed, and seemed to replicate trotske's townie ways. Plus he made that awesome PWright image, how could he not be town.
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In light of Mig flipping red, I'd prefer to lynch Rayzor instead of BB/Bum...seems like the safer bet at this point. But yeah, it's wiser to wait til tomorrow after the NKs to decide who we're after for lynch tomorrow.
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I don't see rayzorflash as being scum as much as lucidity or nard, he falls under the trotske/igork category. Are there bigger reasons as to why he's going to get lynched tomorrow?
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hmm nard seems to be a pretty save bet. I mean he's not dangerous for us, since he doesn't try to influence anyone. But if you look at the people remaining, he's definetly scummy. Based on his votepatterns and his overall flying under the radar. Pretty good alternative candidate to RayzorFlash.
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At least he'd be forced into talking to us. so far he had no own opinion and he didn't provide anything new at all. As I said before, if i were scum, i would probably play like him. Maybe a little bit more active.
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Besides everything already said on Rayzor, Mig defended him when we tried to switch from Sevryn.
At 10:22 Foolishness wrote:
On August 21 2011 10:22 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote: Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S. Does anyone think a scum would say such a thing? Especially considering he said this when everyone was voting for Sevryn?
And Mig jumped on the opportunity immediately:
On August 21 2011 10:34 Mig wrote: Meh did you guys see the post foolish quoted? This is rayzor's first ever game if he were mafia would he really put himself out there like that if he knew sevryn was green? Seems to be the opposite of how most new mafia players would play.
I am going to stick with sevryn.
My opinion on Rayzor's willingness to be lynched in case Sevryn flips green hasn't changed: he had to do it; backtracking would have made him even more suspicious. So why was Mig willing to remind us of what Foolishness had already said and support the lynch of a townie?
P. S. Wherebugsgo, why do you think that Kurumi is town? And does anyone else have a stance on it?
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Kurumi, since you're confirmed, will you post your flavor text please?
Thats a decent plan supersoft
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On August 28 2011 01:32 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 01:20 bumatlarge wrote: I think I've thoroughly defended myself and BB's actions. Foolishness said himself that BB was mostly guilty through connections, which I find incredibly faulty, and a majority of his analysis was based on BB's lack of original opinions and reasoning for what he did. I don't believe that was true at all, and I especially felt BB's xttc analysis was very much his own and I saw multiple points that I did not see posted by people foolishness said he copied.
Why I am still under heavy consideration is beyond me. I'll address the suspects listed one by one so you can have my opinion, and you can't blame me for restating because I've barely read the thread! jk What do you think of the following 3 people then? 1) nard 2) Lucidity 3) Trotske/iGrok
Foolishness, what are your takes on them? I asked before and you didn't answer.
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On August 28 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:Besides everything already said on Rayzor, Mig defended him when we tried to switch from Sevryn. At 10:22 Foolishness wrote: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 10:22 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote: Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S. Does anyone think a scum would say such a thing? Especially considering he said this when everyone was voting for Sevryn? And Mig jumped on the opportunity immediately: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 10:34 Mig wrote: Meh did you guys see the post foolish quoted? This is rayzor's first ever game if he were mafia would he really put himself out there like that if he knew sevryn was green? Seems to be the opposite of how most new mafia players would play.
I am going to stick with sevryn. My opinion on Rayzor's willingness to be lynched in case Sevryn flips green hasn't changed: he had to do it; backtracking would have made him even more suspicious. So why was Mig willing to remind us of what Foolishness had already said and support the lynch of a townie? P. S. Wherebugsgo, why do you think that Kurumi is town? And does anyone else have a stance on it?
to be fair, you didn't vote him either.
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Foolishness
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On August 28 2011 02:09 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 01:32 Foolishness wrote:On August 28 2011 01:20 bumatlarge wrote: I think I've thoroughly defended myself and BB's actions. Foolishness said himself that BB was mostly guilty through connections, which I find incredibly faulty, and a majority of his analysis was based on BB's lack of original opinions and reasoning for what he did. I don't believe that was true at all, and I especially felt BB's xttc analysis was very much his own and I saw multiple points that I did not see posted by people foolishness said he copied.
Why I am still under heavy consideration is beyond me. I'll address the suspects listed one by one so you can have my opinion, and you can't blame me for restating because I've barely read the thread! jk What do you think of the following 3 people then? 1) nard 2) Lucidity 3) Trotske/iGrok Foolishness, what are your takes on them? I asked before and you didn't answer. Oh right, I was distracted with the lynch at the time.
1) Not entirely sure at the moment. Last time I read through his posts I saw it going both ways. His inactivity level over the past day or two is really disturbing though. Day 1 he seemed a lot more active. 2) Not mafia, Lucidity is putting himself out there too much. I don't think a mafia would risk drawing attention to them self at this point in the game. Also Lucidity called me mafia at one point. If Lucidity knew that Mig was mafia I don't think he would try to call me mafia in the thread right as I'm gunning for his teammate. 3) I thought Trotske was mafia, but I think iGrok is town. At this point iGrok seems to be here and posting (which was more than Trotske) so I think we can put him aside for a day or two.
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