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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On August 31 2011 22:09 supersoft wrote: well, i am not sure about BB. I think we should stick to vain who is in my eves definetely scummier. my mafialist is: xtfftc, rayzorflash, vain, BB why do you keep saying BB? BB is not in the game anymore... Pretty clear willful ignorance of what is actually going on in this game... | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
chaoser - Claims DT with a red check on Vain. Not roleblocked, not hit. Doesn't vote for his red check today. Wherebugsgo - Flips tracker after stating that bumatlarge is probably a framer and Vain is not mafia. Good chance that he visited Vain, who didn't visit anyone. Possibility that Vain is GF. Possibility that he tracked bumatlarge who visited Vain. Possibility of both having tracked Vain and seeing he didn't visit anyone and tracking bumatlarge and seeing him visit Vain. Pyo - Claims DT at night. Has to be encouraged to post his checks, and doesn't post results. Later claims attempting to draw hits/roleblocks and claims naive DT with all green checks. I don't believe him, especially with the number of investigative roles that have already flipped/claimed. Possibility of being a sane DT and his targets actually green. Possibility of actually being a naive DT. Possibility of being a lying scumbag (most likely). Rayzorflash - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. xtfftc - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. BB/bumatlarge - Pretty damn scummy. Really wish WBG had left us more information here. Somebody check for breadcrumbs (In WBG's posts, not bum's) in the past day or two. I'd do it if I had the time right now. Post back with results. I suggest a couple people go look and post back so a mafia doesn't do it and fuck us all over. I would be comfortable voting for this guy today. Brief synopsis of my thoughts right now. Discuss. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Liquidite- Welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Anna, the Schoolteacher. You run the local school, St Filomena, where you are responsible for a class of twenty children. You are not the most mentally stable person around, depending on anti-depressants by the handful to get through the day. Despite this you take your responsibilities to the children very seriously, and will work to exterminate the cult a quickly as possible, for their sake. I'd prefer to lynch vain or pyo rather then myself, obviously. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On August 31 2011 23:53 chaos13 wrote: I now have no idea who to vote for. chaoser - Claims DT with a red check on Vain. Not roleblocked, not hit. Doesn't vote for his red check today. Wherebugsgo - Flips tracker after stating that bumatlarge is probably a framer and Vain is not mafia. Good chance that he visited Vain, who didn't visit anyone. Possibility that Vain is GF. Possibility that he tracked bumatlarge who visited Vain. Possibility of both having tracked Vain and seeing he didn't visit anyone and tracking bumatlarge and seeing him visit Vain. Pyo - Claims DT at night. Has to be encouraged to post his checks, and doesn't post results. Later claims attempting to draw hits/roleblocks and claims naive DT with all green checks. I don't believe him, especially with the number of investigative roles that have already flipped/claimed. Possibility of being a sane DT and his targets actually green. Possibility of actually being a naive DT. Possibility of being a lying scumbag (most likely). Rayzorflash - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. xtfftc - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. BB/bumatlarge - Pretty damn scummy. Really wish WBG had left us more information here. Somebody check for breadcrumbs (In WBG's posts, not bum's) in the past day or two. I'd do it if I had the time right now. Post back with results. I suggest a couple people go look and post back so a mafia doesn't do it and fuck us all over. I would be comfortable voting for this guy today. Brief synopsis of my thoughts right now. Discuss. You're an idiot... 1) I probably didn't get visited by any mafia today cause they're scared of watchers. I'm voting Bum cause wherebugsgo, WHO FLIPPED TRACKER, posted that he saw bum visiting vain. So unless bum is blue, he's probably mafia. Either a framer or medic. If he's the former then vain is innocent, if he's the latter than vain is mafia. KK? 2) WTF wherebugsgo is dead?? Why would he be part of "no idea who to vote for?" And he didn't "visit Vain", he tracked bum TO Vain. There's NO possibility that Vain is GF in this wtf...he never tracked Vain, he tracked BUM. 3) You point on Pyo is 100% repeating other what other people have said and boils down to a summary of what's happened 4) Your part on xtfftc and rayzorflash is basically wasted words. 5) Asking for other people to do work instead of yourself: Somebody check for breadcrumbs (In WBG's posts, not bum's) in the past day or two. I'd do it if I had the time right now. Post back with results. I suggest a couple people go look and post back so a mafia doesn't do it and fuck us all over. If we weren't focused on bum today I'd be all over your scummy ass right now. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
BB/Bum need to die first. We can lynch one target a day and that should be Bum. ## Vote Bum | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Pyo has posted very little, most of which have been either responses to other player's ideas, rewordings of what others have said or questions. He never took any opinions of his own and hasn't contributed to town in the least, merely posting but not actually posting. But the thing I want to focus the most on is his DT Claim. In his first part of his claim yesterday, he states: Vain - I voted for him after having checked him, what do you think I think of him? Night 1 - jackal Night 2 - Vain Night 3 - Erandorr As for my sanity, if chaoser is really a DT and really is sane, then I know my sanity as well since we checked Vain on different nights. Which all seem to paint a picture that he knows exactly what sanity he is (sane). He even says he checked Vain and his result agreed with mine, suggesting that he was a sane DT and his checks were correct. What doesn't make sense is that when I stated that I checked Vain and he came out red, Pyo came up right behind the idea and voted for Vain, even though the previous day he had checked Vain himself and gotten green (since he now claims he is a naive DT). Even if he wasn't sure of his sanity, you'd think he'd be a least a little bit wary of what I said But he got behind me as quickly as I claimed, pushing for Vain to be lynched. Even now he pushes for vain's lynch even though wherebugsgo has posted his tracker list that highly suggests that bum is indeed a framer (now I understand why wherebugsgo was so sure of that argument). This added to the fact that he refused to give us his results, claimed DT at night to try to shape today's lynch to go towards Vain, and continue to push the idea after wherebugsgo has given us his track list, suggests that he is mafia pushing for a vain mislynch. We'll know for certain after this day's lynch cycle if there is a framer flip but I suggest a lynch for Pyo on the next day cycle. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 01 2011 00:54 chaoser wrote: You're an idiot... 1) I probably didn't get visited by any mafia today cause they're scared of watchers. I'm voting Bum cause wherebugsgo, WHO FLIPPED TRACKER, posted that he saw bum visiting vain. So unless bum is blue, he's probably mafia. Either a framer or medic. If he's the former then vain is innocent, if he's the latter than vain is mafia. KK? 2) WTF wherebugsgo is dead?? Why would he be part of "no idea who to vote for?" And he didn't "visit Vain", he tracked bum TO Vain. There's NO possibility that Vain is GF in this wtf...he never tracked Vain, he tracked BUM. 3) You point on Pyo is 100% repeating other what other people have said and boils down to a summary of what's happened 4) Your part on xtfftc and rayzorflash is basically wasted words. 5) Asking for other people to do work instead of yourself: If we weren't focused on bum today I'd be all over your scummy ass right now. Attack the argument, not the player. No reason to incite emotions over a game of mafia so if you can't be respectful, don't play. 1) I wasn't aware that WBG had clearly stated who he tracked and who they visited. I must have missed that while reading the thread. 2) Obviously I'm not about to vote for him. If you'd read, you'd understand that this was simply a collection of my thoughts, and that the players I mentioned weren't all possible vote candidates. 3) Deal with it. 4) Deal with it. 5) Fucking read. I'd do it if I had the time right now. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
##Vote: Pyo | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On September 01 2011 08:51 chaos13 wrote: Oh and Pyo is scum. ##Vote: Pyo I think you should stick to vain or myself tonight, splitting votes hurts us this late when mafia has a dangerously high amount of players. | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
##Vote bumatlarge | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 01 2011 10:12 bumatlarge wrote: I think you should stick to vain or myself tonight, splitting votes hurts us this late when mafia has a dangerously high amount of players. If need be I'll change it tomorrow morning. For now I feel that Pyo is our best chance. Failing him I'll vote for you. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On September 01 2011 07:23 chaoser wrote: Case For Pyo: Pyo has posted very little, most of which have been either responses to other player's ideas, rewordings of what others have said or questions. He never took any opinions of his own and hasn't contributed to town in the least, merely posting but not actually posting. But the thing I want to focus the most on is his DT Claim. In his first part of his claim yesterday, he states: Which all seem to paint a picture that he knows exactly what sanity he is (sane). He even says he checked Vain and his result agreed with mine, suggesting that he was a sane DT and his checks were correct. What doesn't make sense is that when I stated that I checked Vain and he came out red, Pyo came up right behind the idea and voted for Vain, even though the previous day he had checked Vain himself and gotten green (since he now claims he is a naive DT). Even if he wasn't sure of his sanity, you'd think he'd be a least a little bit wary of what I said But he got behind me as quickly as I claimed, pushing for Vain to be lynched. Even now he pushes for vain's lynch even though wherebugsgo has posted his tracker list that highly suggests that bum is indeed a framer (now I understand why wherebugsgo was so sure of that argument). This added to the fact that he refused to give us his results, claimed DT at night to try to shape today's lynch to go towards Vain, and continue to push the idea after wherebugsgo has given us his track list, suggests that he is mafia pushing for a vain mislynch. We'll know for certain after this day's lynch cycle if there is a framer flip but I suggest a lynch for Pyo on the next day cycle. No you've got it wrong. I got green every time, however if I came out and said that to everyone I'm obviously naive and the whole point of claiming (to draw the hit away from you) would be completely moot. The only problem is that if I actually had gotten red read on anyone after having checked Jackal and gotten green, I'd know that I would be sane (since jackal flipped green). But in reality, I only got green so I didn't know I was naive until you confirmed yourself to be sane and revealed your check of someone I had checked. SO, if you are telling the truth and the extremely unlikely situation of Vain getting framed didn't happen then I am naive and no more useful than a green townie who had been lurking (I had been lurking because I wanted to stay under the radar since I was blue - but whatever). Long story short, I'm a useless townie who with no cred for having lurked most of the game. So I decided to try to make myself useful in some way by trying to draw a hit from a "confirmed" sane DT. I posted my flavor text to prove to mafia that I am DT (only they can get a safe claim and they know I'm not one of them). I then tried to be cryptic about what my reads actually were so they wouldn't automatically know that I am naive, while trying to imply that your read on vain was correct - note that the reason I even checked him in the first place was because I thought he was scummy, which is why I was happy to go along with your vote. I really would have liked (and still would like) to see him flip red, to confirm chaoser as being truthful and to absolutely confirm my sanity. I was truthful about who I checked because I was worried if I totally pulled something out of my ass it would look really bad, especially given the number of watchers/noisy neighbors/etc in this game (by the way, if you are a watcher and can confirm that i am telling the truth, DO NOT CLAIM - there's no point and I'm not trying to blue fish here either). Basically, mafia knew/know my claim was truthful, but mafia last night would not know whether my checks were truthful, and therefore shouldn't have been able to confirm my sanity. This at worst forces mafia to have to make a decision about whether to kill me, kill chaoser, kill neither of us, waste a role block on me, or whatever. Right or wrong, I don't think I could have played the situation any better given that I had been lurking for most of the game to that point. If you really don't believe me, go ahead and lynch me then look very carefully at the reactions (or lack thereof) to my night claim. Notice who is up front about saying "you're full of shit, mafia must be desperate" and who says, "um yeah, sure. He must be lying, yeah." Keep in mind that mafia know I am telling the truth given my flavor text. I don't want to bias your impressions by naming names yet, but I feel like there are some people who legitimately don't believe me, and others who "don't believe me" because that's the "in" thing to do. (of course there's also RayzorFlash, VisceraEyes, Navillus, and Curu who had nothing to say and have all but disappeared from the game long before I made any claim.) Finally, if you want to get an idea of where I was coming from by my claim, go look at SNMMIV. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
##vote bumatlarge | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On August 31 2011 10:57 wherebugsgo wrote: hmm... foolishness ? mig -----> jackal bum -----> vain ?? I shall vote bum. + Show Spoiler + *crosses fingers* herpaderp... just noticed this... as much as I'd like to see vain flip. ##vote bumatlarge I'm gonna totally be kicking myself if it turns out I'm actually sane... | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
And he was seen moving in the night. He has claimed VT. He can't be both a miller and a nosy neighbour. gg? ##vote Vain. If he flips green then chaoser is mafia. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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